OT: former MSU player shot and killed

[Douglas C. Neidermeyer]

Adreian Payne, former Michigan State basketball star and first-round NBA Draft pick, shot and killed at 31

Payne was a four-year standout with the Spartans and was the No. 15 overall pick in the 2014 NBA Draft

www.cbssports.com

 

[Stormn Norman]

Sad

 

[perryhawk]

Sad

Very

 

[HawkRugged17]

 

[Slim45]

Isn’t this the 2nd former msu player to be shot and killed in the last few years?

 

[BBHawk]

Isn’t this the 2nd former msu player to be shot and killed in the last few years?

Maybe football player?

 

[Slim45]

Maybe football player?

Looked it up, keith appling is who i was thinking of. He was charged with murder, not shot himself.

 

[BBHawk]

Looked it up, keith appling is who i was thinking of. He was charged with murder, not shot himself.

There was also a former MI State football player who got shot/killed in 2016.

 

[Greenway4Prez]

Payne was shot trying to break up a dispute. Just a horrible situation, and he seemed like a genuinely good person.

 

[BBHawk]

Payne was shot trying to break up a dispute. Just a horrible situation, and he seemed like a genuinely good person.

Sounds like a "Stand your ground" argument would protect the shooter. It was his home and he said he felt threatened, thought Payne was armed. His dad backed him up.

 

[1911_Bandit]

The shooter left the proximity of the dispute, went into the house to retrieve a firearm, and then shot the victim upon returning to the scene of the dispute. 'Stand your ground' laws will not apply once the trial begins because he didn't have to return - he chose to return. It is going to be a tough sell for the defense.

 

[BBHawk]

The shooter left the proximity of the dispute, went into the house to retrieve a firearm, and then shot the victim upon returning to the scene of the dispute. 'Stand your ground' laws will not apply once the trial begins because he didn't have to return - he chose to return. It is going to be a tough sell for the defense.

That same thing has happened before with the shooter being acquitted. All he needs to prove is that he felt threatened. Getting a gun to defend yourself is perfectly legal. The law allows it.

 

[1911_Bandit]

There is no record of the shooter calling 911 to express his fear of imminent bodily harm while he was inside the house where he was safe. I think the prosecutor will slam dunk this with a plea deal.

 

[BBHawk]

There is no record of the shooter calling 911 to express his fear of imminent bodily harm while he was inside the house where he was safe. I think the prosecutor will slam dunk this with a plea deal.

There is nothing in the law about that

 

[1911_Bandit]

You may be right, BB, we will see how it plays out. Florida does have a Castle Doctrine that has withstood many court cases.

 

[BBHawk]

You may be right, BB, we will see how it plays out. Florida does have a Castle Doctrine that has withstood many court cases.

No, they have a "Stand your ground" doctrine. It replaced the Castle doctrine in 2005.

 

[Tylerl_28]

There is no record of the shooter calling 911 to express his fear of imminent bodily harm while he was inside the house where he was safe. I think the prosecutor will slam dunk this with a plea deal.

There is, however, a record of the shooter calling 911 and saying Payne was shooting at him.

 

[CaboKP]

Another instance was

Suspect sought in shooting of Mateen Cleaves'' older brother

FLINT (AP) A warrant has been issued charging one suspect in the fatal drive-by shooting of Herbert Cleaves, the brother of Detroit Pistons rookie Mateen Cleaves, the Genesee County prosecutor said yesterday. “I”ve heard that too,” said the Cleaves” father, also named Herbert Cleaves. “But the...

www.michigandaily.com

And this one

Albion College's Zachary Winston dies; police say he purposely stepped in front of train

Zachary Winston, the brother of Michigan State basketball star Cassius Winston, died Saturday night when he stepped in front of a moving train.

www.freep.com

Rough stories for people close to, or related to someone attending MSU.