OT Iowa State has another bye week next week.....
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Kansas is absolutely horrible. If ISU doesn't beat them by 3+ score then Rhoads should be canned now (instead of the end of the season)
To put it in perspective how bad of a program ISU is Iowa has more wins in the non conference this season than ISU has had in their last 15 games dating back to the start of last season. So proud
And yet the game was tied with less than 3 minutes to go.
After watching a lot of football today, I'm not sure who is going to beat Iowa until post season. Then it wouldn't surprise me if they lose the next two. On the other hand ISU may only have one win left on their schedule.
Their fans are like Kneb's. Beating them doesn't matter. They come back with, "my other eye hasn't been blackened yet!".
Says two cyclone fans on a hawk site. You really can't make this stuff up - brilliant!
The illustrious AD at isu tried and failed miserably with that strategy not quite a decade ago now. Don't think you will see him or isu try that again in his tenure.
Besides, it is evident from what occurred with the basketball hire that those decisions now come only from the very top.
Thank you for validating the belief that isu focuses more attention and emphasis on the Iowa game than any other on its schedule.
How many total posts do you have on HR? Make it easy, tell me/us how many you have since 2015 football season began.
Hypocrite.
Very ironic post indeed because yet here you are an ISU fan posting more garbage again on an Iowa board for least the 100th time. Don't you have some Jamie Pollard tweets you need to check out since all you have to hang your hat on anymore is your attendance for 2 games against in state schools and your enrollment.
Also a little tidbit there are also Iowa post on ISU boards so that kind of kills your little/big bro theory but please carry on and enjoy another season at the bottom of the Big 12.
This is fascinating. Happens time and time again.
1. Hawkeye fan posts message with Iowa State in the subject line.
2. Iowa State fan participates in Iowa State thread.
3. Hawkeye fan accuses Iowa State fan of being obsessed with Iowa because Iowa State fan participated in an Iowa State thread.
4. Rinse and repeat.
1. Hawkeye fan posts message with Iowa State in the subject line.
2. Iowa State fan participates in Iowa State thread.
3. Hawkeye fan accuses Iowa State fan of being obsessed with Iowa because Iowa State fan participated in an Iowa State thread.
4. Rinse and repeat.
Honest question Lone,
If Iowa State finishes 2-10 again (let's assume they beat KU and lose out) would you be in favor of bringing Rhoades back for another year? What are your thoughts on that?
Realistically, I assume he will be back because of the contract, but just wanted to get your thoughts.
Lone Clone is actually one of the decent ISU posters on here. Just trying to have conversation with him and get his thoughts on Rhoades.
What are your thoughts on my question ... big bro? Or do you just respond with carry on little bros.
If your going to post here, post something of substance or go to your cyclone site.
No. And I think there isn't a chance he'd be back under that scenario.
After three games, we have lost a game we could have won and a game we should have won, with only one likely win ahead.
I thought prior to the season that if he didn't start at least 4-1, he probably wouldn't be back, because the chances of winning any of the remaining 7 games are slimmer. TCU and Kansas State don't look as strong as they did at the time, but still strong enough to beat ISU, and meanwhile Texas Tech and West Virginia are looking better than expected.
You can't blame a lot of details on the coach, but the overall impression is of a team that expects to lose. There's simply no excuse for the loss at Toledo (even though Toledo isn't that bad).
I think 4-8 might save his job, ironically because of the losses in the first two games. As a result, in order to get 4 wins, ISU would have to pull a couple of upsets in the second half of the season, which could be seen -- reasonably -- as signs of improvement.
Fair assesment. Although I'm not quite sure on what the buyout would be for Rhoades. Isn't it around five million? If so, that is quite a hefty amount for ISU to pay out Rhoades and pay the next coach around 2 million a year. Obviously I am not as familiar as you are with the ISU financial situation so I'm not entirely sure if that's plausible.
Also, if ISU loses out, if it will be interesting to see how big of an attendance hit they will take this year.
LC, if you look back, it was I4cy that started the "obsession" talk, though he didn't use that term. Psyclone was the first ISU responder, and he shared a legitimate comment. Any Iowa fan responses about obsession were made to him. His broken record is annoying, but goes to show that he actually has nothing real to contribute and has found a way to get under the skin of some of the folks here.
I think the buyout is $750,000 x years remaining on the contract, which would be 5, and I think there's also a guarantee of up to $1 million for his staff. So if those figures are correct, yes, the total would be in the neighborhood of $5 million.
But if you're looking strictly at budget money for the Athletics Department, consider that there's considerably more than that "saved" by Hoiberg's departure. And there are always cigars willing to pony up some extra cash to get rid of a coach they don't like.
If Rhoads keeps his job, I think it's safe to say the buyout won't be much of a factor.
Who is the him you are referring to? It reads like you are talking about me, but I assume you meant I4cy, who seems to enjoy rattling your cage.
Yes, you are correct I was referring to I4cy. I see that I was quite unclear in my last sentence. I obviously am going to disagree with you about many things, but I've not seen you trying to troll like I4cy.
Its a shame when a program has a coach that is the right fit for the program and they think they can do better, can the coach and go into a swirling tailspin much like a toilet when it flushes.....Dan Mac did things at ISU that nobody else could.......very similar to the situation Iowa faced recently with the KF debate......long story short, hope things continue to work out with KF and glad we held on to him....sometimes big brother can actually learn from lil bro's mistakes too
I used to think that myself. LC pointed out that he was like 3-40 against ranked teams though. I might have the statistic way off, but it was a terrible record. And, gulp, Iowa provided some of those wins.
Yeah but they were at least competitive and made a few bowl games, I mean we are talking about the worst or one of the worst D1 programs in history.....so I mean that record is probably comparably to their win % against ranked opponents before and after Dan Mac.....he made 5 bowl games and won 2 of their 3 total in history. Pryor to Dan Mac they only played in 4 total bowl games without one single bowl win and coached 1 of the two teams in their history to be ranked in 2000...not to mention he has most wins with 54 in program history.....yes they are really that bad historically
Dan faced an uphill challenge when he came to Iowa State. The program was in the dumps. But what he may not have anticipated is that the schedule was very difficult. In the early Big 12, three north teams were in the national championship conversation. A&M was really good. Texas and Oklahoma were not up to their standards, but they were still far ahead of Iowa State. I often wondered what Dan thought when he saw the schedule he was up against.
Well, he hung in there and the worm turned. Nebraska, Kansas State and Colorado all took a step back. Oklahoma and Texas came back, but Iowa State avoided them 2 years of every four. When the power in the south realigned with Texas and Oklahoma at the top, Dan finally broke through when he didn't have to face them and the north was weak. With one exception, Dan's success came in years when OU and UT were not on the schedule. Heck, he tied for the division championship with a 4-4 conference record.
So much of a coach's success is defined by who he plays. Fast forward to Paul Rhoads. His best years so far were the early years. But when the conference restructured and went to a round robin, things got really tough. There were few automatic wins on the schedule. The Baylor resurgence took a potential win away. TCU and West Virginia came in with very successful programs replacing some mediocre programs.
Two years ago Rhoads had a young team. Last year he was devastated by injuries. This year the team has a lot more experience and depth and they look to be a better team. A much better team. But just where are the wins supposed to come from? Toledo may go unbeaten, but Iowa State let that one get way. Iowa was a potential win pre-season, but Iowa looks a lot better this year and took control of the game in the second half. Kansas should be a win, although they will also be looking at ISU as their only chance for a win. After Kansas I don't know where the next win will come from. Other than Texas and K-State, the rest of the teams are all ranked or in the case of Texas Tech, knocking on the door.
I think Rhoads is a darn good coach that finds himself in an impossible situation. He needs to find a way to pull out at least 3 or 4 conference wins or he's gone. And that's too bad. I know Hawks probably don't like him because he's the ISU coach, but he really is a great guy. The only way his successor wins is if he is a darn good coach and is the beneficiary of a more opportunistic schedule.
Now you've done it. The intelligent posters will recognize the validity of your comments. But there are a half dozen or so who do not think it's relevant whether you play Ohio State or Idaho State.
Oh don't you worry we realize Iowa state sucks so bad they are finding ways to not go defeated.....please read my previous post that goes into a little Iowa state football history. Quick recap: dam Mac has 2 of ISU's 3 bowl game victories, yes that is in its entire history (tied for 2nd with Ricky stanza for most bowl wins in the state of Iowas bowl history), 1 of ISU's final AP top 25 finishes (once again in history) with a whopping 9 win 20th ranking, and is the leader in all time wins at 54....you just can't make this stuff up ladies and gentlemen
Yes bc I am the one on my rivals fan page, don't blame you though, what are the threads about over at cyswallows.com?
Yet why would you guys even be here otherwise to actually see that someone posted something about ISU?
In fact, why would you guys go so far as to create usernames and then lurk for anything possible to jump on and be outraged?
1. Who's outraged?
2. I don't know about anybody else, but I originally came to the HROT board because the comparable board at CR was killed.
Kansas is just a mess right now but I think Beatty will get them moving in the right direction. He is the kind of guy they should have hired not Weiss. It is really astonishing how badly Weiss hurt the program. They entered the fall with something like 62 scholarship players. No way ISU loses this game unless they beat themselves with bad turnovers, penalties, etc. like they did in the Toledo game.
