OT Iowa State has another bye week next week.....
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You know what is fasinating:
1) Clone fans come onto Iowa Hawkeye fan site and are surprised when we have threads about how horrible our instate rivalry is/was/and always will be
2) Why not post on the Iowa threads on cyswallows.com, we do not need nor do we want your participation....it is already obvious with your choice of team to support you are not intelligent
3) It is because you are obviously obsessed or at the very least curious as to what big Brother is up to, otherwise once again why not stay on your cyswallows.com site......
4) Rinse and repeat
For years I have made regular stops at the other sites around the Big 12 and our other opponents. I enjoy the discussion on other sites when it is a topic that is either about Iowa State, effects Iowa State or is a topic of general fan interest. My visits are less frequent where there are no Cyclone topics being discussed. I've enjoyed my time here this year, because the new ignore function is so effective in making bad guys disappear. I've only blocked one or two people on this site, but it completely raised the quality of conversation on this site.
Why would an Iowa State fan be here to see the thread? I have never been to an ISU board....ever. Yet here you are...
This is, BTW, an open board. For all we know, it's an ISU fan starting these threads just to get a pissing contest going. 99% of the Hawkeye fans don't give a damn about ISU except for the week we play.
So let me get this straight, for years you have had the time to go into your conference foes and Hawkeye fan sites and search for topics regarding Iowa State? A couple of questions arise: 1) Do you have a job, b/c how in the hell do you have time for that 2) Are you surprised that the threads (especially here) are usually not positve about ISU 3) Do you realize that you and your lil cy buddies posting on here lowers the quality of conversation for most of us (well kind of, always fun to talk smack knowing you really have no counter) 4) Do you also realize how pathetic it sounds that you go to other sites and then admit that you go to that site and ignore certain posters (hope I am one of them) bc they do not say what you like, typical ISU behavior
Let's delve into this a little further because Milehigh may be closer to the truth than some care to admit.
To state that Dan McCarney (or anyone else, for that matter) faced an uphill battle is understating the reality. Not only was isu football 'in the dumps' in the mid-nineties - it had been a poor program for much of its existence. Sure, there was a highlight here and there, but for the most part, isu football was not good. What is critical to note is anyone in the position of coaching the clones was in for a daunting challenge and would need the full support of the entire university community in order to reverse fortunes.
Two things can be said about Dan's abilities as a head coach. First, he knows and loves the game with a passion not matched by many. Secondly, he knows how to prepare. This should come as no real surprise given the tutelage Dan received as a player and later as an assistant to Hayden Fry and then Barry Alvarez. There is simply no way that it can be said that he failed to 'anticipate' any opponent, conference or otherwise. Many teams can be labeled as 'in a conversation for national championship', even today, but that does not automatically translate into a coach unable or unwilling to prepare.
(Out of curiosity, exactly how many big xii teams won those national championships in the early part of the big xii?)
Again, the quickness to excuse one now in better favor over another facing similar circumstances does not serve to make your argument. Are you saying that much of isu football success under Dan McCarney was because of scheduling? How was isu so disadvantaged or advantaged by the rotating schedule that each and every team ultimately faced in the league? He only won because he did not have to play Oklahoma and Texas every year? Either the big xii was one of the very best (as has been heard/read on this very forum throughout the history of that conference) or it wasn't. One team/coach did not become lucky or unlucky due to scheduling if the league overall was good. Conversely, if the teams faced were just mediocre (read: not Oklahoma or Texas) then several of the big xii members should have excelled along the way.
The record shows that during the six-year period of 2000 to 2005, isu won seven games in four seasons and nine games in one. It is difficult to reconcile that with only playing OU and Texas two out of four years (technically less than that, but who is counting.) Following that unprecedented run for isu, the proverbial rug was pulled out from under Coach McCarney by an athletic administration unable and/or unwilling to provide support when most needed.
You proceed to draw comparisons from the McCarney era to current isu football coach, Paul Rhoads. What I read is a litany of excuses as to why now it is so much harder to succeed in Ames.
Paul Rhoads is now into his seventh year as head coach at isu. The win against UNI was number thirty in those seven years. In the same time frame, Baylor has risen from no more than an afterthought to lead the conference. Kansas State (with yet another Iowa/Hayden Fry assistant at the helm) has returned to prestige. Oklahoma State had its day in the sun, so to speak. For Kansas it is a tad further removed, but even the basketball crazed Jayhawks managed to find their way to a BCS bowl. Just not poor, little ole isu. The world is so unfair.
Paul Rhoads was hired to win football games and was provided with much, much, much more opportunity to do so than Dan McCarney. Part of his responsibility is to make sure that the team from 2013 (Rhoads fourth year) is not too young and has sufficient depth to not allow the entire team to drop to the depth they are currently at now. We hear over and over about how isu now exceeds lowly Iowa in undergrad enrollment and that players from such recruiting hotbeds as Florida and Texas are ready, willing and more than able to come play in Ames. Year comes, year is completed and the results are what they are. That is truly something that can be rinsed and repeated again and again.
isu fans tend to believe that whomever is the coach at the present is a 'darn good coach'. It is only after they depart Ames that we hear/read the unbiased opinions of how isu fans really feel. Paul Rhoads very likely is a good coach, but not an exceptional coach by any stretch of imagination. His track record as an assistant is good, not great. He had a advantage of having grown up in the shadow of Ames and he even coached there briefly under Dan McCarney. However, he has fallen into the trap of worrying more about how he is perceived as opposed to focusing on how to get better.
If you think four wins in the big xii is on the horizon, then here is hoping your wish comes true. Thus far, isu (and KU) have not manged four conference wins since someone named McCarney was the coach. The very year the team total fell below four wins, he was fired.
You ought to try to measure Iowa without referencing isu at all. It is a single game that has zero bearing on the Big Ten and is rarely, if ever, noted by anyone of significance outside the State of Iowa.
How I spend my free time is not your concern. My username gives away my primary allegiance and automatically triggers a negative reaction among many. I can't help that and it doesn't matter that I was once an Iowa student and used to attend Iowa football games in the 80's. When I post, I try to keep things civil, but I'm only human and I will fight back if I need to. The first person I put on ignore on this site is not well respected by a large number of the members of this site.
Clone fans feel the need to defend isu to the hilt. Regardless of what the facts say. Clone fans can't and won't argue the facts because if it isn't on Pollards talking point sheet, they simply can't think for themselves. Then in the end what occurs is that they validate the long standing stereotypes of isu and its fan base.
The one I blocked is 89and91. If he comes back with another name, it won't take long for him to be deep-sixed again.
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