Seeing lots of rumors like this floating out there.
Other healthy players quitting?
- Thread starter Mountain Man Hawk
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I'm hearing rumors they are BIG names. It is one thing to sit out a bowl game. Regular season games...
Trying to be glass half full here but I guess if we were going to have to play without those guys next year anyway, at least now we can get the young guys a couple games experience to get a jump start on preparing for next year now…
Also the one good thing about once we can actually start officially paying players is at least then maybe we can make the game checks dependent on not quitting on the team.
I hope it is just that, rumors. I'll hold off on my thoughts for now. Don't want to take positions based just on rumors.
If you quit before season's end, you should have to return all NIL $$$ and scholly $$$. But schools and the NCAA are probably just dumb enough to say, "We never really thought about that..."
It feels like it really is reaching a point where the season means nothing after CFP elimination. Seems like every player with any NFL aspirations whatsoever starts thinking about what their next move is once the team's biggest goals are in the rear view mirror.
College football is in trouble.
College football is in trouble.
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We need to get to employment contracts and severe penalties for sitting out if healthy. Still may not matter if it is in their last games of their career.
This would be the equivalent of a college kid quitting their part time job at McDonald’s with no notice and being forced to give all his pay back.
The whole system is a joke. Recruits are just going to the highest bidder. Even the NFL has rules in place to regulate free agency and player transactions.
There is no control and no oversight. And since NIL technically has “nothing” to do with the actual schools, there is nothing contractually the NCAA can do.
There was just an interview with KJ that he was looking forward to going and seeing Brian Ferentz. He recruited KJ and he spoke very highly of Brian.
Yep. 6-4 Iowa has nothing left to play for except pride.
4-6 Maryland, 5-5 Nebraska and a mediocre bowl game is all that remains.
Reality sucks.
Right. There needs to be a type of contractual arrangement between the player and school he signs a LOI for.
If State Farm wants to pay for the kid to be in a commercial with Jake from State Farm, that’s on them.
Well on the bright side, if they are guys on their way out anyway, the backups at least getting reps and playing time for next season.
That's why I am fine with Jackson, Marco and Sully playing moving forward.
KJ would have made the most sense honestly (because of the injury risk at that position, etc) but I haven’t seen his name rumored anywhere. The names being floated on other sites are on the defense. Who know how accurate the rumors are.
And with so much money at stake, I really can’t fault players who are planning to make the jump to the NFL not risking injuries for games that are essentially meaningless now.
College football is a professional business. When teams are obviously out of contention for the playoffs, it’s just like dumping payroll and trying to plan for the future through free agency and the Draft (it’s just called the transfer portal and high school recruiting in college). Unfortunately, fortunately, however you see it, players are determining personnel decisions during the final weeks of the regular season instead of front offices.
I actually warned of this very thing, back when everyone decided it was OK for players to opt out of bowl games. I was really only half-serious about it because it felt like kind of a slippery-slope fallacy, yet here we are ...
It should have been that way for a few years now. Sticking with (i.e.) Deacon Hill and not giving Marco Lainez or Joey Labas any playing experience whatsoever was one of many ridiculous things of how Kirk manages the program.
Build for the future.
Hopefully not true.
You knew this was coming. If they're sitting out bowl games, why not conference championship and late season games too?
Also, who knows what's going on in there, but QB situations have the potential to be divisive. That's why fans should never contribute to creating a QB controversy. Coaches have literally told you they are their worst nightmare.
But one thing's for sure. KF will have that team fighting on Saturday! They will be together and he will handle this all as well as it could be handled
You knew this was coming. If they're sitting out bowl games, why not conference championship and late season games too?
Also, who knows what's going on in there, but QB situations have the potential to be divisive. That's why fans should never contribute to creating a QB controversy. Coaches have literally told you they are their worst nightmare.
But one thing's for sure. KF will have that team fighting on Saturday! They will be together and he will handle this all as well as it could be handled
Are you related to Kirk Ferentz? Or does he pay you to mow his lawn?
No offense to the current team but we only have a handful of nfl type players. 2 of them (LBers) will not be sitting out. No way. The remaining fringe nfl guys you’d think only 1, maybe 2, has the tape to sit out the remainder of the year. 👀
Quit pretending they are amateurs, because they are definitely not.
They are getting paid (which I have no problem with); what must accompany that is a contract that stipulates their obligations.
Lots of ways it could be structured to incentivize and penalize.
They are getting paid (which I have no problem with); what must accompany that is a contract that stipulates their obligations.
Lots of ways it could be structured to incentivize and penalize.
Yes, making payment conditional on meeting terms of the agreement. Absent doing away with NIL as it has become, not as it was intended, the only other workable solution is the players get paid a salary/stipend by the school, effectively, if not actually, making them employees. I wouldn't love that solution because it brings in all sorts of other issues, but as is, the money being paid out without strings attached is not sustainable for most schools, including Iowa. People just won't put up with it for long, they won't be played for fools forever.
Sure. You can find students who heap high praise on the worst teachers in any school. Hell, some countries even elect traitorous felons as president, so just because somebody likes a person doesn't mean squat without a whole lot of context.
Players who have NFL futures have business decisions to make.
Oh, I totally agree with you. I’m just saying in principle, because the NCAA bungled this so badly, I really am not going to care what a kid chooses to do anymore.
At least the NFL makes players earn their big pay day by starting them on rookie contracts. Take for example this high school quarterback Michigan is paying $10 million for. This kid hasn’t earned shit and could end up being a bust. By way of comparison, Patrick Mahomes was a first round pick and signed with Kansas City for $16 million over 4 years. In other words, Mahomes started out with a base salary of $4 million per year.
What a joke.
Would you really blame KJ if he sat out the remainder of the season!??!? That’s a business call and a good one. Nothing more to prove. Wait for the draft.
Yep.
At 6-4, there’s nothing to really play for from a business perspective.
Maybe this is what convinces Kirk to finally call it quits.
Exactly. Might find a jewel in the rough without burning a redshirt.
I think we win out. Maryland is 4-6 for a reason. We know Debbie sucks. They may not beat Whisky tomorrow.
I couldn’t care less what you think of me now, tomorrow, or 50 years from now.
So are you Kirk’s nephew or perhaps cousin?
College sports are becoming a joke, that's for sure.
Maybe we should ask the NFL owners to pay the schools, who then pay the players. After all, colleges are developing the players & feeding the NFL teams with players.
It's ridiculous that a booster like Brad Heinrichs has to beg Iowa fans to donate money to SWARM.
I heard Cade was sitting out to prepare for the NFL draft 😎
It is absolutely ridiculous that the current situation requires fans to fork over money for organizations like SWARM.
At this point, college football is a farm system for the NFL. Kids get drafted for baseball out of high school, right? Why not allow that for basketball and football players as well? I have no doubt a team like the Detroit Pistons would have invested money in (i.e) Cooper Flagg coming out of high school.
