Our future coach

[CO_hawk]

I never said anything about taking a look at the Wyoming coach who is Bohl not Klieman. Please show me where I posted that.

I stated a hypothetical candidate to look at but did not say must hire. I do think Klieman is worth a look. The point was indentifying target candidates that fit a certain profile for a hypothetical opening. An opening we do not have.

So you want to look at Klieman at NDST, even though he's only been a head coach for one year, at and FBS program? He hasn't even brought in his own recruits yet.
Got ya.

P.S I said we should look at Bohl and not look at Klieman. Klieman hasn't done shit, Bohl has.

 

[frydaze]

The real point is if there are true character issues this should be known by those responsible for hiring. Barry is a phone call away to confirm or deny anything. This would be on top of what it would cost to get him.

I promise you I am not trying to pick on you today And1Hawk and honestly this is not directed at you.

However, I use your quote above as an example.

Probably the biggest over-the-top "rumors" that have ever existed are those that relate to Bielema.

Maybe 6 months ago in the Hawkeye Lounge, someone posted a thread about Bielema, challenging every person in the Lounge who had dumped on Bielema in the past regarding his "character" to step up and specify what exacly they knew that would support the character issues many want to talk about with him.

In the end, there were over 100 posts and not ONE post could say anything specifically. Most of the Bielema haters responded by saying "well I heard this" or "well I heard that".

Has Bielema rubbed a few people wrong in both Iowa City and Madison through the years? Probably so. What major high profile coach at a school hasn't? Lute Olson rubbed many wrong while at Iowa, and so did Hayden Fry. Hell, so did Dan Gable and so has Tom Brands.

The story about Bielema not being allowed to drive in Madison may take the cake of all of them.

Has Bielema ever put his program on probation due to illegalities? Do Bielema teams have low graduation rates among the players? I will answer for you: NO!

Does one really believe Barry Alvarez would tolerate regular non-professional behavior from his head football coach? Is Jeff Long, the AD at Arkansas who hired Bielema from Wisconsin, going to pay Bielema Top 10 money as he is if there big character flaws with him? If Bielema had slept around with the dozens of young college coeds or whoever else he supposedly did, you wouldn't expect at least one of them to come out and sell the story or want to be public about it?

People need to start using better judgement when trying to make fact out of innuendo. Never let the facts get in the way of a good story as they say.

 

[frydaze]

So you want to look at Klieman at NDST, even though he's only been a head coach for one year, at and FBS program? He hasn't even brought in his own recruits yet.
Got ya.

P.S I said we should look at Bohl and not look at Klieman. Klieman hasn't done shit, Bohl has.

Though I truly hope Iowa sets their sites higher than Bohl at Wyoming, I completely agree about Klieman at NDSU. The guy is one year into his head coaching career and may never prove to be good head coaching material. He needs to prove he can win with his own recruits first--and it will be at least the 2017 season at NDSU before we can really start to know.

 

[And1Hawk]

Though I truly hope Iowa sets their sites higher than Bohl at Wyoming, I completely agree about Klieman at NDSU. The guy is one year into his head coaching career and may never prove to be good head coaching material. He needs to prove he can win with his own recruits first--and it will be at least the 2017 season at NDSU before we can really start to know.

What would our fan base say today about hiring a coach from North Texas State to be our next head football coach?

 

[lenoxhawks]

What would our fan base say today about hiring a coach from North Texas State to be our next head football coach?

They will party in the streets if his name isn't Ferentz.

 

[And1Hawk]

They will party in the streets if his name isn't Ferentz.

I am not sure I agree with that. For some it's reached a point where we want to be relevant again and it would be great to do this under KF. At this time we are not but a new season is approaching so let's see how this plays out. I will be there in attendance as usual and looking forward to it.

 

[And1Hawk]

I promise you I am not trying to pick on you today And1Hawk and honestly this is not directed at you.

However, I use your quote above as an example.

Probably the biggest over-the-top "rumors" that have ever existed are those that relate to Bielema.

Maybe 6 months ago in the Hawkeye Lounge, someone posted a thread about Bielema, challenging every person in the Lounge who had dumped on Bielema in the past regarding his "character" to step up and specify what exacly they knew that would support the character issues many want to talk about with him.

In the end, there were over 100 posts and not ONE post could say anything specifically. Most of the Bielema haters responded by saying "well I heard this" or "well I heard that".

Has Bielema rubbed a few people wrong in both Iowa City and Madison through the years? Probably so. What major high profile coach at a school hasn't? Lute Olson rubbed many wrong while at Iowa, and so did Hayden Fry. Hell, so did Dan Gable and so has Tom Brands.

The story about Bielema not being allowed to drive in Madison may take the cake of all of them.

Has Bielema ever put his program on probation due to illegalities? Do Bielema teams have low graduation rates among the players? I will answer for you: NO!

Does one really believe Barry Alvarez would tolerate regular non-professional behavior from his head football coach? Is Jeff Long, the AD at Arkansas who hired Bielema from Wisconsin, going to pay Bielema Top 10 money as he is if there big character flaws with him? If Bielema had slept around with the dozens of young college coeds or whoever else he supposedly did, you wouldn't expect at least one of them to come out and sell the story or want to be public about it?

People need to start using better judgement when trying to make fact out of innuendo. Never let the facts get in the way of a good story as they say.

I appreciate your response and consideration. I am not really sure in the case of what I heard while in Madison that I stated as fact that was innuendo. I noted that what I was stating had basis in rumor and even used IF meaning it was not proven true at this point. You may be referring to the lounge post that I have never seen so I get that.

My Facts....
Iowa Fan - I am a season ticket holder to football & basketball

Invited by Wisky friend to game in Madison to check out their atmosphere to compare it with ours. It was fun up there and we had a good time.

Large tailgate of Wisky fans (not Iowa fans) discussing status of Bielema due to rumored off-the-field issues most notably the partying with co-eds. They did not say 'sleeping with' as you stated. They said he was on the hot seat. He ended up leaving at the end of the year. This was a Wisky discussion not an Iowa fans discussion. I did not hear anyone question his coaching ability (other than propensity for misusing his time outs at end of games/halfs) or the graduation rate for his players that you mentioned. I also never heard them talk about not being able to drive as stated by someone else in this thread.

My opinion(s) I shared...
Window has closed on obtaining his services due to rising salary. We would need to look elsewhere if we truly had an opening.

IF he has character issues (not he does or has), that will come to the surface if he is a serious candidate and we have an excellent reference point in Barry to confirm or dispel anything during his time there.

I never said he would not be a great hire but believe that we missed our hiring window with him. I did state that there was smoke in terms of rumors at one time in Madison.

It might have missed something but that was the gist.

 

[sloehawk]

I am not sure I agree with that. For some it's reached a point where we want to be relevant again and it would be great to do this under KF. At this time we are not but a new season is approaching so let's see how this plays out. I will be there in attendance as usual and looking forward to it.

Would this be year 5 or 6 you've used this exact same line? I'm not picking on you specifically, but I've seen enough of how it plays out. The answer is not very damn well, unless you're a Cyclone or a Gopher I suppose.

 

[And1Hawk]

Would this be year 5 or 6 you've used this exact same line? I'm not picking on you specifically, but I've seen enough of how it plays out. The answer is not very damn well, unless you're a Cyclone or a Gopher I suppose.

I agree. The group I am with strongly for the first time ever (30+ yrs) considered not renewing our football tickets after last season. The ultimate deciding factor to renew was for the chance to get to see CJ play for the better or the worse. I think for the better but have been wrong many times. To me he possibly has a Stanzi-esque IT factor. That IT factor is something you cannot track in the stat sheet but you can see and feel it in person on the field. Like the minute Stanzi stepped on the field against FAU and threw his first pass. Instant stadium vibe! Sorry sidetracking this thread.

What I like about this season is all of the chips are finally on the table. It's put up or shut up time for everyone including me. I want to see us win out in the non-con for once and that means beating ISU on the road even though we lose to them all the time. No more excuses, no more saying the team will gel in week 5 or 6 or maybe in November. For once, I want to see us come out of the gates with hunger and go after people... No more punts from the opponents 35, throw the bonb on 4 and 1, put the best kids on the field regardless, etc.

 

[frydaze]

What would our fan base say today about hiring a coach from North Texas State to be our next head football coach?

Not following you. That guy today is Dan McCarney. Are you thinking/saying you think McCarney would actually be a candidate for the Iowa job if it were to open at the e end of this season?

We hired a coach from there 36 years ago named Hayden Fry. I get that. But do you think where things were 36 years ago with the University of Iowa football program (we had 17 consecutive losing football seasons when Hayden was hired and few had any interest in our job at that time) in any way can compare to what Iowa's situation is today? When Hayden was hired Iowa's athletic facilities were widely known as being some of the worst in America, with an administration who cared little about the football success and generally considered a coaching graveyard.

Back to McCarney if in any way you were referring to him. No, McCarney would not be considered for the Iowa job today as he approaches his mid-60's today and is a coach at North Texas. I will tell you what though: Had Iowa hired McCarney after Hayden retired I truly believe he would have had tremendous success at Iowa as a head coach.

 

[frydaze]

C'

I appreciate your response and consideration. I am not really sure in the case of what I heard while in Madison that I stated as fact that was innuendo. I noted that what I was stating had basis in rumor and even used IF meaning it was not proven true at this point. You may be referring to the lounge post that I have never seen so I get that.

My Facts....
Iowa Fan - I am a season ticket holder to football & basketball

Invited by Wisky friend to game in Madison to check out their atmosphere to compare it with ours. It was fun up there and we had a good time.

Large tailgate of Wisky fans (not Iowa fans) discussing status of Bielema due to rumored off-the-field issues most notably the partying with co-eds. They did not say 'sleeping with' as you stated. They said he was on the hot seat. He ended up leaving at the end of the year. This was a Wisky discussion not an Iowa fans discussion. I did not hear anyone question his coaching ability (other than propensity for misusing his time outs at end of games/halfs) or the graduation rate for his players that you mentioned. I also never heard them talk about not being able to drive as stated by someone else in this thread.

My opinion(s) I shared...
Window has closed on obtaining his services due to rising salary. We would need to look elsewhere if we truly had an opening.

IF he has character issues (not he does or has), that will come to the surface if he is a serious candidate and we have an excellent reference point in Barry to confirm or dispel anything during his time there.

I never said he would not be a great hire but believe that we missed our hiring window with him. I did state that there was smoke in terms of rumors at one time in Madison.

It might have missed something but that was the gist.

C'mon And1Hawk, with all due respect to your friends, you are smarter than to believe what a handful of Badger fans tailgating together were saying. Sounds like the two friends I have who believe McCaffery is on the hot seat right now at Iowa. Brett Bielema in way was on the hot seat at any time when he was at Wisconsin whether it be for on-field performance or off-field jibberish.

Again, my point is, all the off-field character issues people want to talk about with Bielema are more flair than substance. If Barry was on the hot seat when he left, why was Barry Alvarez, to this day, upset at it happening?

 

[frydaze]

My opinion(s) I shared...
Window has closed on obtaining his services due to rising salary. We would need to look elsewhere if we truly had an opening.

I never said he would not be a great hire but believe that we missed our hiring window with him.

I agree with you that I do not believe Brett Bielema will be the next head coach at Iowa; as much as I would love to see that happen.

Not sure we missed any hiring window on him. When Barry originally brought him to Wisconsin as an assistant Ferentz had Iowa in the Top 10 nationally.

The #1 reason why I feel Bielema would not come to Iowa, even if offered, is because he's only been at Arkansas for two years and this year will be his third. I think Bielema wants to see what he can achieve at Arkansas and in the SEC and such a short time there simply does not give him that chance.

I agree regarding the money it would also take toi get Bielema here at this point too. Not that we don't have that to pay; we do. The bigger issue is if Ferentz doesnt make it here and he owe him a huge buyout, we won't also pay a new head coach nearly $4 million annually.

 

[And1Hawk]

Not following you. That guy today is Dan McCarney. Are you thinking/saying you think McCarney would actually be a candidate for the Iowa job if it were to open at the e end of this season?

We hired a coach from there 36 years ago named Hayden Fry. I get that. But do you think where things were 36 years ago with the University of Iowa football program (we had 17 consecutive losing football seasons when Hayden was hired and few had any interest in our job at that time) in any way can compare to what Iowa's situation is today? When Hayden was hired Iowa's athletic facilities were widely known as being some of the worst in America, with an administration who cared little about the football success and generally considered a coaching graveyard.

Back to McCarney if in any way you were referring to him. No, McCarney would not be considered for the Iowa job today as he approaches his mid-60's today and is a coach at North Texas. I will tell you what though: Had Iowa hired McCarney after Hayden retired I truly believe he would have had tremendous success at Iowa as a head coach.

I left that statement a little open on purpose because I want people to think. The sun has set on McCarney's career so I am not saying in any way that we need to hire him if we have an opening.

Just think North Texas State and Long Beach State. Think about that for a while.

The point is many always want to chase the obvious highly priced candidate and overlook the up and comers that have something to prove. There are future coaching stars waiting to happen out there.

Any candidate can turn out to be a dud proven or not. Many in our fan base now believe we are too good to hire someone without experience at a certain level of competition or coming from a school/league without brand recognition. Fry was from North Texas State of all places. Yes, some new of him but it was not the splash hire across the entire college landscape that it turned out to be. In retrospect it might have been the best hire of that time period across all of college football and it's effects are still seen today.

Assuming we hired a coach today from the MAC, FCS or low end D1 school like North Texas State there would be major hand ringing and disgust about it.

Different sport but Lute Olson came from the well known and thought of powerhouse Long Beach St. The kind of place you go to find hall of fame coaches.

Jim Harbaugh went from non-scholarship San Diego to Stanford. No prior big time coaching experience. Some scoffed at that initially and it took some courage to make that hire. If it had gone the other way, Bowlsby would have been discredited for hiring a guy from a non scholly level of football.

Kirk had 3 years of head coaching experience at FCS Maine before coming to us as an NFL O-Line coach. Despite recent disappointment he got something accomplished at Iowa.

Hoiberg - zero head coaching experience coming to ISU.

The point is a good AD has a well thought out set of criteria to find the next coaching super-star before they hit the big time with someone else. We do not need to chase Bielema, the Stoops boys, etc. and mortgage the farm to do it with no guarantee of success at Iowa.

 

[frydaze]

I left that statement a little open on purpose because I want people to think. The sun has set on McCarney's career so I am not saying in any way that we need to hire him if we have an opening.

Just think North Texas State and Long Beach State. Think about that for a while.

The point is many always want to chase the obvious highly priced candidate and overlook the up and comers that have something to prove. There are future coaching stars waiting to happen out there.

Any candidate can turn out to be a dud proven or not. Many in our fan base now believe we are too good to hire someone without experience at a certain level of competition or coming from a school/league without brand recognition. Fry was from North Texas State of all places. Yes, some new of him but it was not the splash hire across the entire college landscape that it turned out to be. In retrospect it might have been the best hire of that time period across all of college football and it's effects are still seen today.

Assuming we hired a coach today from the MAC, FCS or low end D1 school like North Texas State there would be major hand ringing and disgust about it.

Different sport but Lute Olson came from the well known and thought of powerhouse Long Beach St. The kind of place you go to find hall of fame coaches.

Jim Harbaugh went from non-scholarship San Diego to Stanford. No prior big time coaching experience. Some scoffed at that initially and it took some courage to make that hire. If it had gone the other way, Bowlsby would have been discredited for hiring a guy from a non scholly level of football.

Kirk had 3 years of head coaching experience at FCS Maine before coming to us as an NFL O-Line coach. Despite recent disappointment he got something accomplished at Iowa.

Hoiberg - zero head coaching experience coming to ISU.

The point is a good AD has a well thought out set of criteria to find the next coaching super-star before they hit the big time with someone else. We do not need to chase Bielema, the Stoops boys, etc. and mortgage the farm to do it with no guarantee of success at Iowa.

Question: Do you believe Barta has the savvy to find that next "great find " from the obscure school that others aren't talking about today? I will leave that one for people to think on.

Hiring a name coach with proven performance minimizes the risk of a bad hire. For every Harbaugh hire from San Diego, Lute from Long Beach, we can name many coaches from obscure places who flopped. It gets down to an AD with the ability to see what others can't--again, back to my question on Barta.

 

[lenoxhawks]

Ferentz is Lickliter 2.0 now that Norm isn't there. Barta just needs to follow the game plan he took getting Fran.

The 2 key traits the new coach must have is be a relentless recruiter, and be able to hire a top notch staff. I can't imagine a staff outworking Fran. We need the football equivalent of Fran, who has my 2 key traits in spades. A third bonus trait would be ties to the midwest or appreciation of midwest values so we aren't getting a guy that wants to leave in 3 years.

 

[frydaze]

Ferentz is Lickliter 2.0 now that Norm isn't there. Barta just needs to follow the game plan he took getting Fran.

The 2 key traits the new coach must have is be a relentless recruiter, and be able to hire a top notch staff. I can't imagine a staff outworking Fran. We need the football equivalent of Fran, who has my 2 key traits in spades. A third bonus trait would be ties to the midwest or appreciation of midwest values so we aren't getting a guy that wants to leave in 3 years.

I can't agree on the Ferentz being Lickliter 2.0; not even close. Kirk has actually achieved some great things at Iowa; albeit most of those came in the first half of his head coaching career here and the last 10/11 years have generally been so-so. Lickliter achieved nothing while at Iowa and also he set the program backwards.

I agree with you that once Norm Parker left, Ferentz has struggled much. Parker was a huge mentor to Ferentz and that was as vital as was being a great Defensive Coordinator.

 

[RocknRollface]

I think Kirk was saved by blind luck and Norm Parker and parlayed that into a lifetime contract. He was not top tier than but unfortunately most couldn't see through the record. Norm carried Kirk as did the lucky bowl game draw.

You guys want a coach so bad then learn how to spell his first and last names. Probably some of you can't pronounce the last name either.

Who the **** cares about spelling his name?

Completely irrelevant.

 

[GoHawks2009]

A lot of people including me would love to have bb as our coach but I too wonder if he even in the slightest has any desire to coach iowa. It's probable someone has more info on this that I do.

A lot of people also don't want Bret Bielema at Iowa...and those people are right. /thread

 

[sober_teacher]

Question: Do you believe Barta has the savvy to find that next "great find " from the obscure school that others aren't talking about today? I will leave that one for people to think on.

Hiring a name coach with proven performance minimizes the risk of a bad hire. For every Harbaugh hire from San Diego, Lute from Long Beach, we can name many coaches from obscure places who flopped. It gets down to an AD with the ability to see what others can't--again, back to my question on Barta.

I do not believe Barta will be around to hire the next football coach.

 

[Bill_D]

Stole the show at the SEC media day. He will immediately put Iowa on top of the division and compete for conference championships. I kept my season tickets knowing that the dark days will not last much longer. Gary needs to do whatever it takes to get Bielema coaching in Iowa City in 2016.

http://www.teamspeedkills.com/2015/7/16/8974587/sec-media-days-2015-bret-bielema-conquers-all

Getting Bielema is a dream. IMO you can never match AR in a bidding war. He could run for governor of AR and win. He would just have to want to coach at Iowa more than he wants money.

 

[frydaze]

I do not believe Barta will be around to hire the next football coach.

If we are looking for a new football coach after this season I do believe Barta will be here to make that new hire. He's not going anywhere between now and December.

 

[frydaze]

A lot of people also don't want Bret Bielema at Iowa...and those people are right. /thread

Want Bielema or don't want Bielema. Doesn't matter. What an increasing growing number of fans do want is relevant and winning football again. Would you agree with that? Afterall, Iowa is 19-21 in B1G play over the past 5 years and barely over .500 overall during that same time period.

There's a segment of the Iowa fan base who is completely content with Iowa football as is unfortunately.

I don't want to see KF gone simply for the sake of him being gone. I want to win and be relevant right now in 2015 and want to see KF do it. I am just saying if it's another ho-hum, then at what point do you just finally saya it's not going to happen with his leadership anymore. Our recruiting is getting no better--has ranked towards the bottom of the league three years in a row now.

 

[RocknRollface]

Getting Bielema is a dream. IMO you can never match AR in a bidding war. He could run for governor of AR and win. He would just have to want to coach at Iowa more than he wants money.

Why? Everything I've seen or read regarding revenue generation indicates Iowa > Arkansas.

Yeah, the Sec has more passionate boosters but it's not like Iowa has struggled to raise money.

I don't get this idea that Arkansas is some big deal.

They are basically an also ran in their conference and they have a new coach every few years.

 

[sober_teacher]

If we are looking for a new football coach after this season I do believe Barta will be here to make that new hire. He's not going anywhere between now and December.

you're forgetting that we will also have a new university president, and given barta's mixed record as AD, i don't think its a slam-dunk that he will still be around.

also, imo, i only think Ferentz is gone after this season IF he chooses to retire, or the bottom completely falls out of the season. if iowa goes 7-5, 8-4, i think ferentz sticks around unless he steps down. the only thing that might change that equation is if the UI president, whoever he/she is cans Barta, or makes canning ferentz a condition for barta to keep his job.

 

[bagdropper]

The only way BB becomes Iowa's coach in say the next 2-3 years is if he gets fired from Arkansas and Iowa has an opening.

When it gets right down to it, it's a better football job than Iowa is. In a pure non-homer objective sense, it's a lot better football job than Iowa is. He has zero competition in-state (ASU is basically UNI), closer to where the greatest number of great talent is located at, and at a school and state that absolutely worships a great successful head coach of Hog football.

If he wins in the SEC, they'll carve out statures of him in Little Rock.

I just do not see him up and leaving Arkansas while on good footing there. Not unless they have an AD or school administration change that wants "their guy" in.


I just don't understand the need to delude one's self pining for something that ain't ever happening except for exceptional circumstances. It's like planning on a winning lottery ticket as a financial strategy.

And here's the kicker...I also don't think that he'd necessarily be successful as most seem to think he would be either. I don't care what anybody says...it's hard to win at football at Iowa. History tells us this.

Lastly...Linkliter 2.0...my gawd, the brain bubbles one must possess to actually post that.

 

[Ronman]

Bielema is at the perfect school for him. The way he is going, in a few years he will be big as a sow.

 

[RocknRollface]

The only way BB becomes Iowa's coach in say the next 2-3 years is if he gets fired from Arkansas and Iowa has an opening.

When it gets right down to it, it's a better football job than Iowa is. In a pure non-homer objective sense, it's a lot better football job than Iowa is. He has zero competition in-state (ASU is basically UNI), closer to where the greatest number of great talent is located at, and at a school and state that absolutely worships a great successful head coach of Hog football.

If he wins in the SEC, they'll carve out statures of him in Little Rock.

I just do not see him up and leaving Arkansas while on good footing there. Not unless they have an AD or school administration change that wants "their guy" in.


I just don't understand the need to delude one's self pining for something that ain't ever happening except for exceptional circumstances. It's like planning on a winning lottery ticket as a financial strategy.

And here's the kicker...I also don't think that he'd necessarily be successful as most seem to think he would be either. I don't care what anybody says...it's hard to win at football at Iowa. History tells us this.

Lastly...Linkliter 2.0...my gawd, the brain bubbles one must possess to actually post that.

Disagree. It's got some advantages and some disadvantages.

It's a push at best. At best.

First, you have about zero chance of ever wining your division at Arkansas. It's the toughest division in all of college football by a huge margin and Arkansas will never compete with Bama, LSU, Auburn, and A&M.

Second, what's an easier more secure more profitable job than Iowa? Ferentz is a career 500 coach that makes top ten money and has been here for 17 years. Allot of you guys worship Ferentz and he can't even beat ISU.

 

[bagdropper]

A brand new coach other than maybe tops 5 or 6 guys currently coaching (that would never come to Iowa anyway) would make Ferentz money. The next guy will make Paul Rhoads money.

I just think pining for BB is delusionary at best. We can sit here and debate it till we're all blue in the face, but in the end there has to be an opening, and there has to be a guy willing to come here.

If Bielema is as good a coach as this board makes him out to be, he'd be looking to leave Arkansas for a bigger job, not smaller or lateral. Otherwise, he's going to see it through until Iowa has an opening before he even deals with the decision anyway.

And I do believe Arkansas can compete with LSU and Alabama. They do not have a 25 year death lock on that division. You don't have to go back that far to see they have sucked at times. No program is immune any more.

 

[RocknRollface]

A brand new coach other than maybe tops 5 or 6 guys currently coaching (that would never come to Iowa anyway) would make Ferentz money. The next guy will make Paul Rhoads money.

I just think pining for BB is delusionary at best. We can sit here and debate it till we're all blue in the face, but in the end there has to be an opening, and there has to be a guy willing to come here.

If Bielema is as good a coach as this board makes him out to be, he'd be looking to leave Arkansas for a bigger job, not smaller or lateral. Otherwise, he's going to see it through until Iowa has an opening before he even deals with the decision anyway.

And I do believe Arkansas can compete with LSU and Alabama. They do not have a 25 year death lock on that division. You don't have to go back that far to see they have sucked at times. No program is immune any more.

Highly unlikely in the time frame BB would be there and you left out Auburn who has been in the title game twice in recent years.

There's just no way you're besting all three of those teams in a given year at a place like Arkansas.

I'm simply pointing out why Arkansas is not a better job than Iowa. If it was so great they wouldn't have a new coach every few years.

Its certainly better recruiting grounds but your competition difference makes it a push at best.

BB coming to Iowa is not at all illogical. I'm not saying he would do it because he's only been there a few years but if he and KF both last a couple more years with things going the way they are it becomes a real possibility IMO.

 

[Kurt Warner]

Want Bielema or don't want Bielema. Doesn't matter. What an increasing growing number of fans do want is relevant and winning football again. Would you agree with that? Afterall, Iowa is 19-21 in B1G play over the past 5 years and barely over .500 overall during that same time period.

There's a segment of the Iowa fan base who is completely content with Iowa football as is unfortunately.

I don't want to see KF gone simply for the sake of him being gone. I want to win and be relevant right now in 2015 and want to see KF do it. I am just saying if it's another ho-hum, then at what point do you just finally saya it's not going to happen with his leadership anymore. Our recruiting is getting no better--has ranked towards the bottom of the league three years in a row now.

Couldn't said it better myself, put that in your pipe and smoke it 2009

 

[mtdew_fever]

I think it might be easier to get Stoops to Iowa than Bielema.

Stole the show at the SEC media day. He will immediately put Iowa on top of the division and compete for conference championships. I kept my season tickets knowing that the dark days will not last much longer. Gary needs to do whatever it takes to get Bielema coaching in Iowa City in 2016.

http://www.teamspeedkills.com/2015/7/16/8974587/sec-media-days-2015-bret-bielema-conquers-all

 

[frydaze]

I think it might be easier to get Stoops to Iowa than Bielema.

Agree.

Both are long shots to land at Iowa, but if I were in Vegas and had to place odds, I say Stoops would be a better chance of landing than Bielema.

 

[GoHawks2009]

Couldn't said it better myself, put that in your pipe and smoke it 2009

Right after you twirl it around in your rear a few times....

 

[GoHawks2009]

Want Bielema or don't want Bielema. Doesn't matter. What an increasing growing number of fans do want is relevant and winning football again. (Thats a lie. Nobody wants that. Come on now.) Would you agree with that? Afterall, Iowa is 19-21 in B1G play over the past 5 years (Yeah 2012 really brings down the average.....three 4-4s, a 5-3 and a 4-8. Just speaking numbers though.) and barely over .500 overall during that same time period. (Unacceptable. Somebody should clean that mess up. Because I sure wont.)

There's a segment of the Iowa fan base who is completely content with Iowa football as is unfortunately. (Who? You've apparently seen or heard people say that they're fine with the state of Iowa football so who? Where do they live?)

I don't want to see KF gone simply for the sake of him being gone. (Unlike those that flat out say they do......) I want to win and be relevant right now in 2015 and want to see KF do it. (Good luck with that with this year's roster.) I am just saying if it's another ho-hum, then at what point do you just finally say it's not going to happen with his leadership anymore. (A bad 6-6 or a simple 5-7 will do it.) Our recruiting is getting no better--has ranked towards the bottom of the league three years in a row now. (I don't care about recruiting as a fan....at all...but how is that different from most years? Most years we're in the middle of the pack? Big difference right there.)

And I still don't want Bret Bielema at Iowa.

 

[frydaze]

And I still don't want Bret Bielema at Iowa.

And in the end what you want or don't want will have no consideration. The AD will make the choice. I know this much though....if Bielema were ever hired at Iowa, those who claim they don't want him would cheer him like crazy when he won.

 

[RocknRollface]

And I still don't want Bret Bielema at Iowa.

Winning would be horrible. Much funner to lose to ISU and Northwestern ever other year.

 

[GoHawks2009]

Winning would be horrible. Much funner to lose to ISU and Northwestern ever other year.

Right because we couldn't do that without Bret Bielema....

 

[GoHawks2009]

And in the end what you want or don't want will have no consideration. (I dont believe you........then again I'm not entirely sure what it was I said that gave you that idea in the first place.) The AD will make the choice. I know this much though....if Bielema were ever hired at Iowa, those who claim they don't want him would cheer him like crazy when he won.

Nah I'd just be like all the pessimists that went and hid in a closet waiting for the floor to fall out from under the Bielema regime like those type of fans did after the 2009 and 2013 seasons among other recent years.

I'll join the "see I told you" pessimist crowd if Bielema is our coach at any point in the future. We can win without him.

 

[Taw Jackson]

not defending ferentz at all here, but do realize for that an almost 20 year period in the 60s and 70s, Iowa did not have a single winning season. Those, were dark days. These past couple of seasons are frustrating to say the least, but lets keep things in perspective.

Not really sure what you're trying to say here, but do you have any idea how sick and tired many of us get at hearing how bad things were in the sixties and seventies? What's your point? That we should just be happy with mediocre football? Ferentz apparently is, so we might as well go along with him, right?

Look, I lived through those years, and yes it was bad, but the state of the program 40-50 years ago has no relevance whatsoever for what's happening today.

 

[Taw Jackson]

So, when Iowa won the Orange Bowl in 2009 were any of you guys happy? What did you think of Kirk?

Uh, you do realize that was six years ago, right?