Whatever the hell that last sentence means. Just FYI there Duka, I got my high school and college degrees in Iowa, so read from that what you will.......
Owen Freeman
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So another shooting guard who can't, or won't shoot? Super. Probably gonna suck when we're trying to run Frans perimeter based offense with lots of threes' and we have to hope Sandford is on that night as he's the only proven shooter at this level. (When he's on that is)....
Let me put it this way, he's softer than Patrick & that's Charmin toilet paper soft.
Neither was a 4/5. Try to stick to
Word salad. When I referenced the 4/5 I was referring to position, not stars. So again, Jok and Marble aren’t part of the analysis, but since you are going there both improved tremendously under Fran. From unrecruited to All Big. So obviously, you have no idea what you’re talking about.
And yes, Cole played his senior year under Fran and improved tremendously.
Double double tonight for Owen.
In 32 minutes, he was 11-13 (85%) from the field for 22 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists and 1 steal.
In 32 minutes, he was 11-13 (85%) from the field for 22 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists and 1 steal.
Freeman is going to be an absolute beast.
admittedly missed the 4/5 reference. But improved tremdously, please.... provide those stats...
especially when he puts more muscle on
His defense was stellar his senior year. You can check the stats as well as I can but I’d bet most posters on here would back me up.
Another Big Freshman Player of the Week award seems likely.
He shoots a LOT of threes!!! Three foot, that is! LOL 11 made and I think it was maybe 8 dunks and 3 simple toss ins from 2-3 feet. Nothing wrong with that - we need that inside game.
Let me inform, you this is the internet, you have your opinion, I have mine, and leave it at that, I'm sure there's more with your opinion then mine, how it all shapes out, is any ones guess, let's leave it at that.Let me put it this way, he's softer than Patrick & that's Charmin toilet paper soft.
he didn't have any blocks last night but imo Owen is a legitimate rim protector
considering the freshman competition, he should be every week.
The coaches of the B1G would greatly dispute all your points about individuals player not improving while at Iowa. They don't put players on the First team at the end of the year unless they respect those players accomplishments. Several of McCaffery's recruits, some that you mentioned made the First Team. Was that just a favor for Fran?
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No offense to Kenyon, but the most improvements his sons made were when Kenyon took the emotional and financial step to send them to that basketball prep school in the South. They went from skinny HS kids, with really no basketball future to legitimate prospects. Even at that, several on here questioned McCaffery's judgement for giving them scholarships. Still, they were ranked in the 300s when they signed on to Iowa. They both improved while they were here and now are in the NBA. That's some improvement!
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Owen is just beginning to scratch the surface of how good he's going to become. I hope he works on his free throw shooting as I have a feeling he's going to get fouled a lot in the upcoming games.
Kenyon tried to get both boys to shoot right handed...Keegan took the advice and it made him ambidextrous and he's lottery NBA pick. Kris resisted the advice/encouragement and his game has suffered in comparison.
Neither Murray makes NBA if they don'thave late growth spurt from 6'5.
I would believe a Father that spends time with his kids every day for 18 years has a lot more influence than a head coach in development. In Fran's case he was both a coaching resource and Father with his own kids. THe 1st two McCafferies are so-so players. Who cares if they got rated highly out of H.S. --- they had benefit of being Fran's kids and having easy AAU access, special coaching, etc...all advantages that most kids don't have.
I would say the McCaffery boys are mediocre college players more because they aren't elite athletes and lack shooting touch/muscle memory ability which has a lot to do with DNA. PMAC also doesn't have personality to compete at same level of physicality as CMAC did. Maybe PMAC and CMAC are greatest two young men in world. Doesn't change the father's nepotism/self dealing.
You seem a little negative. The Murrays are much more physically gifted than the McCafferys. I’d argue that the McCafferys have done better than they should have based upon their physical abilities. Has Fran played them more than he should have? Sure. Has Fran done a tremendous job of evaluating and finding talent? Yes. You can fairly criticize him for not advancing in the NCAAS, but I don’t think his playing his sons has been a large factor in that result.
Is it two soon to suggest freeman is player of the year in 2025?
I hope he doesn't get poached by a Blueblood with big NIL. Swarm guy said they can't compete against the BB only schools that have NIL to spend only on BB.
I'm really not that worried about that with Owen specifically. Seems like he loves it here and wants to be here. Indiana was recruiting him early in the process and they are top-10 in hoops NIL from what I've heard; Michigan State also was interested--if he really wanted to up his financial situation, he would have strung out his recruitment way longer than he did.
He should renegotiate his NIL with the Swarm & work with Caitlin Clark's agent..... now!
Iowa has done a pretty good job with player retention so far in the transfer portal era. There's a reason for that. Fran likes to take care of his guys vs using money to go lure someone in the portal or a high school kid. Now that can have it's faults at times, but it's seemed to work okay for Iowa so far.
Now will there inevitably come a time when Iowa loses a player they did not want or anticipate they would lose? Probably.
