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HawkHoops80 said:
I know IllQC will be mad at me for saying this, but I have a strong feeling that Riley took the RS to save a year of eligibility for the transfer portal. He's going to go dominate in some mid major league for the next 2 years I would guess.

With Owen emerging as a dominant big man, he's going to be penciled in for 30+ minutes going forward. And basketball has changed to the point where playing 2 bigs together just is rarely feasible. It's worked okay with Krikke just because he allows more spacing on offense than a traditional back to the basket big would, but I think it would be a disaster at playing Owen and Riley together. Owen is a pretty athletic guy for his size, but I really don't want him running around on the perimeter on defense guarding the Donta Scott's, Malik Hall's and Quincy Guerrier's of the world, which is what a typical 4 man build in the Big Ten is. That's why Ladji's development is so important--he's got the best of both worlds in the size and body of a big ten post but athletic feet and shooting to play a modern 4 man.
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Na, why should I be mad:confused:. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. You have yours, I have mine. I just can't see Riley leaving Iowa from what I see from him supporting his teammates from the bench and the team seems to love him also. As others have said in past posts, big men sometimes take more time to develop and I've seen enough of Riley from small sample sizes to know there is a lot of potential there and having 2 big men playing along side each other is not a detriment by any means.
There is plenty of other players in Payton, Pryce, Dembele, Koch, and Tadjo to fill out the other front line position.
I'm just tired of Iowa struggling rebounding and playing defense and it all begins around the rim.
 
I agree with Hoops here but bottom line we will need a true big man to spell Owen next year and if Riley develops enough in that role, fine. Otherwise we have to go get a rim protector guy in portal.
 
hawkjt said:
I agree with Hoops here but bottom line we will need a true big man to spell Owen next year and if Riley develops enough in that role, fine. Otherwise we have to go get a rim protector guy in portal.
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Fran going to the portal and picking players that can neither get off the floor or for that matter rebound is unacceptable and is the primary reason Iowa is standing at this moment 4 and 6 in the Big Ten and 12 and 9 with 10 games left.
Great come back but playing the 5 at the end that had no leadership was the reason Iowa came up short. Still like the freshman and will watch every game I can to see how they improve the rest of the season.
I'm done with Krikke, Patrick, and have no idea what happened to Bowen.
 
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IllQChawk said:
Fran going to the portal and picking players that can neither get off the floor or for that matter rebound is unacceptable and is the primary reason Iowa is standing at this moment 4 and 6 in the Big Ten and 12 and 9 with 10 games left.
Great come back but playing the 5 at the end that had no leadership was the reason Iowa came up short. Still like the freshman and will watch every game I can to see how they improve the rest of the season.
I'm done with Krikke, Patrick, and have no idea what happened to Bowen.
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Bowen is losing his confidence. That happens when you are not left to work though your mistakes and even when you are playing ok, you continue to lose playing time. I do think Riley will eventually end up being a decent big for Iowa. He needs to, because we need a center that is at least 6'11''. Look at the top 20 teams in the country. Very few do not have a 7' center.
 
HawkHoops80 said:
I know IllQC will be mad at me for saying this, but I have a strong feeling that Riley took the RS to save a year of eligibility for the transfer portal. He's going to go dominate in some mid major league for the next 2 years I would guess.

With Owen emerging as a dominant big man, he's going to be penciled in for 30+ minutes going forward. And basketball has changed to the point where playing 2 bigs together just is rarely feasible. It's worked okay with Krikke just because he allows more spacing on offense than a traditional back to the basket big would, but I think it would be a disaster at playing Owen and Riley together. Owen is a pretty athletic guy for his size, but I really don't want him running around on the perimeter on defense guarding the Donta Scott's, Malik Hall's and Quincy Guerrier's of the world, which is what a typical 4 man build in the Big Ten is. That's why Ladji's development is so important--he's got the best of both worlds in the size and body of a big ten post but athletic feet and shooting to play a modern 4 man.
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Yes. That and the emergence of Dembele make it tough to project Riley getting minutes.
 
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IllQChawk said:
How in the heck can you say that, living over a 1000 miles away from Iowa City? He isn't being redshirted just to play a few minutes or just be a bench cheerleader. I'm guessing he will start along with Owen and be a major contributor for Iowa the next 2 years.
I've seen enough of him to believe he has skills that will help Iowa finish in the top half of the league next year. You can't teach height, length, and quickness.
The non believers and there are many, will be astonished.
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I'd love to place a wager with you on this. I may not live in IC, but I've seen enough & watched how Fran rotates players. Next years frontline will be Owen, Ladji & Koch coming off the bench. Riley will only get a few minutes a game when there's foul trouble. I'd love to be wrong on this & it'd be great if he turns into a stud on defense & grabs garbage points. But he's no Acie Earl.. Riley played behind Jelly for Christ's sake.

If Fran can get another big from the portal, I'm betting Riley transfers. Just my 2 cents.
 
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LukaDuka said:
I'd love to place a wager with you on this. I may not live in IC, but I've seen enough & watched how Fran rotates players. Next years frontline will be Owen, Ladji & Koch coming off the bench. Riley will only get a few minutes a game when there's foul trouble. I'd love to be wrong on this & it'd be great if he turns into a stud on defense & grabs garbage points. But he's no Acie Earl.. Riley played behind Jelly for Christ's sake.

If Fran can get another big from the portal, I'm betting Riley transfers. Just my 2 cents.
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It's a good thing your 2 cents don't mean crap. Got a whole 8 months to see if either prediction comes to fortition. I just don't see Fran wasting 3 years of developing him just to see him go to the portal. If anything he would have been shown the door along with Ogundele after last year if that was the case.
His high school video's, that his mother shot, show lot's of athleticism, just google his name, defense, offense and rebounding. Don't be so lazy, but carry on with your insinuation that he can't be any good because he hasn't seen much playing time. The young man is going to surprise lots of us, either way.
As for Cooper Koch, he will be just like Pryce in getting playing time, maybe a little more. He's rail thin and will have to bulk up substantially to survive playing in the Big Ten.
He could surprise me and be a great shooter which Iowa can always need but he will have an uphill battle to take away playing time from Dembele, Payton, and others.
 
IllQChawk said:
It's a good thing your 2 cents don't mean crap. Got a whole 8 months to see if either prediction comes to fortition. I just don't see Fran wasting 3 years of developing him just to see him go to the portal. If anything he would have been shown the door along with Ogundele after last year if that was the case.
His high school video's, that his mother shot, show lot's of athleticism, just google his name, defense, offense and rebounding. Don't be so lazy, but carry on with your insinuation that he can't be any good because he hasn't seen much playing time. The young man is going to surprise lots of us, either way.
As for Cooper Koch, he will be just like Pryce in getting playing time, maybe a little more. He's rail thin and will have to bulk up substantially to survive playing in the Big Ten.
He could surprise me and be a great shooter which Iowa can always need but he will have an uphill battle to take away playing time from Dembele, Payton, and others.
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My 2 cents are worth the same as your two cents. And high school highlights are worth less than 2 cents against D1 talent. If he was as good as you say, why did Fran redshirt him & get two bigs from the portal in a rebuilding year? Time will tell.
 
I think it is a great idea to redshirt Riley. Many big men need multiple years to develop. For many it is a tough sell for coaches as many players believe they are ready for the NBA—-many need some convincing. Bo Ryan usually had a big man red shirting almost every year. Frank K. needed years to develop. Look at Purdue’s bench, there is usually a big man red-shirting. I think he has a 7’3” guy red shirting now.
 
LukaDuka said:
My 2 cents are worth the same as your two cents. And high school highlights are worth less than 2 cents against D1 talent. If he was as good as you say, why did Fran redshirt him & get two bigs from the portal in a rebuilding year? Time will tell.
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You and others are just plan lazy, you probably have never seen him play or very little, but because of that, you believe there is no way he can provide heavy minutes next year and would rather see Fran hit the portal to grab some 6-8, 6-9 mid major to fill out any holes Iowa might have in their roster. So be it.
Neither one of us have a say in the final 2 years of Riley's eventual end of his Iowa career, but from what I've seen of Riley's play, he has potential to help Iowa achieve a better record then they have had in the last 14 years.
Only time will tell, as we all want only the best for Iowa basketball and really, I see a dynamic duo of Riley and Owen leading the way in vastly improving the defense and rebounding that we all crave Iowa to achieve.
This is my last conversation on this subject until the beginning of next season or Riley surprises me and does indeed look elsewhere for playing time.
 
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IllQChawk said:
You and others are just plan lazy, you probably have never seen him play or very little, but because of that, you believe there is no way he can provide heavy minutes next year and would rather see Fran hit the portal to grab some 6-8, 6-9 mid major to fill out any holes Iowa might have in their roster. So be it.
Neither one of us have a say in the final 2 years of Riley's eventual end of his Iowa career, but from what I've seen of Riley's play, he has potential to help Iowa achieve a better record then they have had in the last 14 years.
Only time will tell, as we all want only the best for Iowa basketball and really, I see a dynamic duo of Riley and Owen leading the way in vastly improving the defense and rebounding that we all crave Iowa to achieve.
This is my last conversation on this subject until the beginning of next season or Riley surprises me and does indeed look elsewhere for playing time.
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Even if Riley has improved enough to play, Fran will absolutely not play Owen & Riley together. It doesn't fit his slashing offense & ball movement he likes to play. Never played Woodbury & Olesani together. Never had another center play with Garza. Just don't see it happening. Again, he's a Bruan type backup. Maybe, just maybe he'll get 10-12 minutes a game as Owen is prone to foul trouble.

And how much have you seen Riley play against D1 talent??? Quit sniffing the kids jock, it's embarrassing.
 
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I am surprised they don’t wear mouth guards
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JBo did, except in his bar fights! lmao

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LukaDuka said:
Even if Riley has improved enough to play, Fran will absolutely not play Owen & Riley together. It doesn't fit his slashing offense & ball movement he likes to play. Never played Woodbury & Olesani together. Never had another center play with Garza. Just don't see it happening. Again, he's a Bruan type backup. Maybe, just maybe he'll get 10-12 minutes a game as Owen is prone to foul trouble.

And how much have you seen Riley play against D1 talent??? Quit sniffing the kids jock, it's embarrassing.
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For one thing, both Owen and Riley are forwards so lots of times 2 forwards play together, when Riley gets a chance to play, he will literally eat Brauns lunch. Riley is 3 or 4 inches taller, heavier, runs better, may even rebound better then Even, and he is definitely a better scorer and free throw shooter.
And by the way, this is a message board. Lots of Iowa fans come on here to express there opinions which I have. Neither you nor anyone else is going to change my opinion of Riley whether he finished his eligibility at Iowa or moves on as some have suggested he might.
I'll seen enough of Riley to know he has skills that have not been exposed to the general public and I'll be surprised if he plays less then 25 minutes a game next year and by the way, where do most college players come from, oh wait, high school, but Riley has been at Iowa for 3 years now so he will be a Junior after redshirting this year.
Now, that may all get blown up by next year, but I'm sticking to my guns. He's going to be a fan favorite before it's over.
 
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IllQChawk said:
For one thing, both Owen and Riley are forwards so lots of times 2 forwards play together, when Riley gets a chance to play, he will literally eat Brauns lunch. Riley is 3 or 4 inches taller, heavier, runs better, may even rebound better the Even, and is definitely and better scorer and free throw shooter.
And by the way, this is a message board. Lots of Iowa fans come on here to express there opinions which I have. Neither you nor anyone else is going to change my opinion of Riley whether he finished his eligibility at Iowa or moves on as some have suggested he might.
I'll seen enough of Riley to know he has skills that have not been exposed to the general public and I'll be surprised if he plays less then 25 minutes a game next year and by the way, where do most college players come from, oh wait, high school, but Riley has been at Iowa for 3 years now so he will be a Junior after redshirting this year.
Now, that may all get blown up by next year, but I'm sticking to my guns. He's going to be a fan favorite before it's over.
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Why do you think Riley red-shirted?
 
IllQChawk said:
For one thing, both Owen and Riley are forwards so lots of times 2 forwards play together, when Riley gets a chance to play, he will literally eat Brauns lunch. Riley is 3 or 4 inches taller, heavier, runs better, may even rebound better the Even, and is definitely and better scorer and free throw shooter.
And by the way, this is a message board. Lots of Iowa fans come on here to express there opinions which I have. Neither you nor anyone else is going to change my opinion of Riley whether he finished his eligibility at Iowa or moves on as some have suggested he might.
I'll seen enough of Riley to know he has skills that have not been exposed to the general public and I'll be surprised if he plays less then 25 minutes a game next year and by the way, where do most college players come from, oh wait, high school, but Riley has been at Iowa for 3 years now so he will be a Junior after redshirting this year.
Now, that may all get blown up by next year, but I'm sticking to my guns. He's going to be a fan favorite before it's over.
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So you've seen him play over the past three years? He's played a grand total of 133 minutes. You're implying you have access to watch Riley play during practice or pick up games. The little I've seen him in mop up duty and against Purdue's Eddy, he's soft. Softer than PMac. You may look at Freeman as a forward, but he plays center at Iowa. I don't think he's taken more than 3 shots outside of the paint. He has good free throw form & can probably hit an occassional three, but not like a Garza type shooter. And Riley is a 7 foot forward? Now you're making him out to be of Gianis Greek freak type. C'mon man.... Cannot wait until next year to see how it plays out.

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LukaDuka said:
Even if Riley has improved enough to play, Fran will absolutely not play Owen & Riley together. It doesn't fit his slashing offense & ball movement he likes to play. Never played Woodbury & Olesani together. Never had another center play with Garza. Just don't see it happening. Again, he's a Bruan type backup. Maybe, just maybe he'll get 10-12 minutes a game as Owen is prone to foul trouble.

And how much have you seen Riley play against D1 talent??? Quit sniffing the kids jock, it's embarrassing.
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Iowa men's ball movement is dribbling around. Watch passing. women for ball movement via passing
 
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Look at the top 20 teams in the country. Very few do not have a 7' center.
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I'll use Bart Torvik because it's easier but I don't think this is true.

1. Houston: No
2. Purdue: Yes
3. Uconn: Yes
4: Arizona: Yes
5. Auburn: No
6. ISU: No
7. Alabama: No
8. Tennessee: No
9. BYU: No
10. Marquette: No
11. UNC: No
12. Illinois: No
13. KU: Yes
14: St. Marys: No
15: MSU: No
16: Duke: Yes
17: Florida: Yes
18: Creighton: Yes
19: Gonzaga: No
20. Baylor: Yes

That's only 7 out of 20 having a 7' guy on the team.
 
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ISUBryceC said:
I'll use Bart Torvik because it's easier but I don't think this is true.

1. Houston: No
2. Purdue: Yes
3. Uconn: Yes
4: Arizona: Yes
5. Auburn: No
6. ISU: No
7. Alabama: No
8. Tennessee: No
9. BYU: No
10. Marquette: No
11. UNC: No
12. Illinois: No
13. KU: Yes
14: St. Marys: No
15: MSU: No
16: Duke: Yes
17: Florida: Yes
18: Creighton: Yes
19: Gonzaga: No
20. Baylor: Yes

That's only 7 out of 20 having a 7' guy on the team.
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8, but point still valid.
 
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