Lol Toussaint's isn't even close - obvious walk. Curbelo's wasn't a walk. He could take 7 steps before he picks up the ball, and it wouldn't count towards his steps. Learn the rules, bud.
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What constitutes picking the ball up? He scooped it with one hand and took theee steps. 9/10 that is called a travel. I’ve watched in slow mo 50 times. He has already scooped the ball, hand under when he takes first of 3 steps. Just because he didn’t put 2 hands on it doesn’t mean possession wasn’t established.
what does high stepping have to do with anything ? is it illegal ? NO it is not .
sorry dude the goal tending call was administered the right way . the timing sucked . remember jbo had the TO after it .
There’s six pages of discussion here and you’re resurrecting my drunken game night post.... why?
possession has nothing to do with it . the only thing that matters is when the dribble ended and with his back to us it is hard to tell .
refs make mistakes , players make mistakes , coaches make mistakes get over it .
ssshhhh dont mention conspiracy . DSD will be on here like shit on stink . lol
luka works his ass off , that is why he is good .
correct, although "steps" having nothing to do with ruling a travel. When did the dribble end? Once that occurs you may only lift your pivot foot 1 time and not return it without passing or shooting
if what you post is true and it is not explain a layup . you are confusing stationary position and on the move .
not confusing anything, on a layup the pivot foot legally only touches the floor 1 time. Remember, that "when" the dribble ends is the determining factor...for example, if on a jump stop the dribble ends in the air, then a simultaneous land will allow you to pivot. Most jump stops however start with the dribble ending while in contact with the floor which means on that same landing you may not pivot but may jump again to either pass or shoot. Also, understand that in the NBA and FIBA that a "zero" step is allowed...example of that is James Harden's step back where he does lift his pivot foot and return it to the floor...many think the NBA just ignores this move...not at all...different set of rules. So that same move in NFHS and NCAA are travels 99% of the time. A step back conducted legally(HS and college) is a backwards jumpstop but unlike doing it forward it's nearly impossible to jump backwards off of 1 foot and land simultaneous on 2...so when you see stepbacks at the collegiate level, if not ruled illegal it was missed.
I understand that, but I was addressing the other poster's comments that it was "Clearly" a block. Obviously it wasn't so clear since they blew the whistle, and took about 4-5 minutes to figure it out with video replay.
Still wouldn't matter. Because it would be the same as the refs reviewing the play and determining the runner was in fact down and (again) what happened afterwards doesn't matter.
Huh? Im not sure you understood his post. Seemed like a pretty fair analogy to me
You don’t get it. Runner fumbles ball, opposition pick up ball and runs into end zone but was blown dead for runner incorrectly being called down Score doesn’t count but are given the ball. Player shoots ball blocked shot and put back for score but was blown dead for goaltending. Score doesn’t count but are given the ball..........................Here’s a question I have on the rule. Was Iowa given the ball because there was a clear possession by Iowa or is offensive team automatically given the ball? Illinois could have been the one “screwed” had they gotten the rebound but ball given to offensive team and Iowa hits basket.
I don’t know if that question was ever answered concisely..I think they did mention “ alternate possession” rule..
I read in another thread that when all was said and done, we still had the arrow pointing our way.
they were incorrect, it went to POI pt of interruption
alternating possession had nothing to do with it, Iowa possessed prior to the ruling on the floor, video review thus takes it back to POI(pt of interruption) including where the shot clock was. If the shot clock has "recall" which they do at the D1 level then they should have been able to determine exact shot clock time
I realize that but if you were listening to the announcers they incorrectly said Iowa got possession due to alternating possession.
I heard it....they're(announce team) clueless when it comes to rules applications unless someone on the crew explains it to them at that moment...that was just a very strange review and I'm not surprised...normally 2 guys on the crew look at the replay while the 3rd watches the court...when the 3rd member is called in it's because on such a close play/decision they want all 3 to agree before proceeding
Really? News to no one.
It is the only part of the rule that you understand. Until you pick up your dribble, those steps don’t count. The fact you think there were 4 is mind boggling. I feel like I’m talking to Gilligan.
I have no problem with you complaining about the refs. I DO have a problem with making the accusation that they were "paid off". That's just stupid!
I agree,.. These refs were so bad nobody would pay for that kind of work...
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