After watching last night I think PMac needs to try and model his game after Wagner of Michigan. They have the same body type and skill set, but Wagner has a more consistent shot from the outside and is under control when driving to the lane. I think he can get there, but it’s going to take some work
Patrick McCaffery development
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I just hope he doesn't crack a backboard with one of those line drive teardrops he constantly tries but never hits rim.
It’s not easy, but look at Garza. Hard work pays off so if you want to be great you have to put in the work and I think he can because he has the athletic ability. They worked on his shot last season from 3, but still looks weird, but I’m glad he’s at leadt taking the shot
He probably needs to develop more than inconsistent tear drops.
He probably needs to develop more than inconsistent tear drops.
The kid has to be credited with overcoming what he has, but other than the occasional 'unicorn' scoring game, his value is on the defensive end. Honestly amazed he was rated as high as he was out of high school.
This right here. After a game earlier this month, I think it was Rutgers, where he went across the lane jumped off his right foot fading to his left people were raving about it on here and his floater shots. To his credit it was a very difficult shot that game. However I was thinking how many of those has he missed this year? Seems like a lot more than he has made. To be successful he needs to get to that point where White and Uthoff were as more slender guys. They didn't shy away from contact underneath or in the lane and weren't afraid to draw fouls. White was the master of getting to the line. Uthoff was good with that little Nowitkzi fade away step back. Right now Patrick does that floater too often in my opinion. Hopefully as he matures he takes it further into the lane for a little jumper or hook shot or even to the rim stronger when he drives. Cause right now that's one of his biggest weaknesses is he doesn't finish well enough around the basket when he is in the lane with people around.
Wagner made a noticeable jump from freshmen to his sophomore campaign. He is considerably stronger in the upper body.
I laughed out loud reading this because it is so true. I always make remarks to my wife when he drives the lane and then just slams it off the backboard without a prayer of it ever going in. It’s like he decided he is going to shoot no matter what sometimes, even if he just had to huck it at the hoop.
I will say you can see the potential and if he learns to play under control he will be one of our only players that can effectively drive to the hoop like that.
Maybe if he gets pulled for the rest of the game whenever he makes an out of control play he will learn.
I am convinced that PMac is going to be a player.
This post wasn’t an attack on the player more so what I think his goal or ceiling could be. White and Uthoff are good examples. He can get there with an off-season, shoot he missed a lot of court last year so this year could be a springboard especially with who we lose after this season
He needs to take his time. Every time he drives he throws it up, seemingly, without looking.
Honestly it seems more than half of those should have been attempted dunks.
Honestly it seems more than half of those should have been attempted dunks.
Uthoff was highly skilled from day one. Way better shooter than PMAC.. He was skinnier than PMAC and got knocked off balance a lot until he put it together jr/senior years.
Whitey was a player as a Freshman.
PMAC is interesting player but jury is out on whether he is a stud or a dud. He put on a lot of weight this past year, I don't think being too skinny has been a problem.. Beside, Fran plays him as a "3," PMAC is not battling bigger players like Keegan does
PMAC's problem is not being able to convert in the paint on his runners/floaters as well as inconsistent 3point shot. Those are lack of "skill" issues, not athleticism or physical issues. Will PMAC become a good shooter? CMAC didn't.
Sure PMAC should model is game after Wagner, but Wagner plays "4" and he can guard the 3 or 4 position. PMAC hasn't shown much defensive ability other than he is long in a zone and he's not quick enough to guard opponent
3-position in man.
I like how over the last six years we’ve gone from bitching about not getting any four-star players to bitching about them once they get on the team.
This is complaining about a player, heck he is way more talented then I am and I would never criticize a player. My hope is that he can translate his athletic ability into a player like Wagner.
This is a good first step in his development since he has had a lot of obstacles to deal with. The offseason will be a good opportunity to evaluate your film and make improvements.
That position at Iowa usually shows a lot of growth over the years
This is a good first step in his development since he has had a lot of obstacles to deal with. The offseason will be a good opportunity to evaluate your film and make improvements.
That position at Iowa usually shows a lot of growth over the years
I am old therefore I am old school I guess. I know the college players model their games after NBA players, but I think the basic foundational principles still apply. Having played a lot of ball in my pre-old days and lacking much in the way of athleticism, I didn't have many options. With this being said, squaring up and taking a shot when your momentum is not going away from the basket is a recommendation I would make. Get to open space and shoot a jumper or get an angle and use the glass. Pmac has the tools and will be a good player, just wish he would flush the acrobatics and go with a more fundamental approach.
MSU has a lot of guys who can drive and dunk, but these guys also recognize when a mid-range jumper is called for.
MSU has a lot of guys who can drive and dunk, but these guys also recognize when a mid-range jumper is called for.
Focus on him on the defensive end of the court sometime. He really looks lost out there, especially if we are in zone, but his man to man has a long ways to go as well
PMAC is struggling on both ends IMO
You can see the Patrick is a skilled player that just needs to slow the game down. He's excitable and that shows while he's on the court and while he is at the free throw line. It might take awhile for his to slow his heart rate down and become more relaxed while playing but he'll get there eventually.
Yeah, no future star was ever out of control as a freshman. The kid is the best athlete on the team. Way faster than any other front court player and a much better high jumper. Keegan is a more skilled freshman but Patrick is more athletic.
Patrick plays good defense, extremely good at times. The kid is going to be an outstanding star before he's done at Iowa.
Patrick plays good defense, extremely good at times. The kid is going to be an outstanding star before he's done at Iowa.
Patrick is longer, other than that there is nothing where he's above Ke.
I hope he does become the star he has the potential to be.
He is a tweener. I do think he will have value as a good bench player as he plays with good energy and gets his hands on a lot of balls. He really thrives in transition. He is older for his grade and he redshirted. I just do not see his shot developing much the next few years, and he is not strong enough to bang down low.
He brings energy and confidence to the court, which is good. But most of the time the energy he brings is wild and he is too overconfident right now. We have many people on the court with him that are better shooters, so he should only be putting up shots when he is wide open or late in the clock. He forces things too much on offense which causes turnovers or horrible shots that might as well be turnovers.
If he can rein in that energy and channel it positively he can be a good player. He needs to let the game come to him right now and if he develops into a stat he can then start trying to take over a game.
Look at Keegan, who is the same year out of high school. Comes in and brings controlled energy. Rarely forces shots. And almost always provides positive impact on the game. If Patrick can get to that point he can be a damn good player that deserves big minutes. While the Michigan game was likely lost when Nunge went down, we still were in striking distance until the point in the 2nd half when Patrick was brought in with Ulis and they both went wild turning the ball over and the game was no longer close.
If he can rein in that energy and channel it positively he can be a good player. He needs to let the game come to him right now and if he develops into a stat he can then start trying to take over a game.
Look at Keegan, who is the same year out of high school. Comes in and brings controlled energy. Rarely forces shots. And almost always provides positive impact on the game. If Patrick can get to that point he can be a damn good player that deserves big minutes. While the Michigan game was likely lost when Nunge went down, we still were in striking distance until the point in the 2nd half when Patrick was brought in with Ulis and they both went wild turning the ball over and the game was no longer close.
Could be. Who knows. I think the game will slow down for him and maybe won’t have quite as much adrenaline out there when he is shooting (which I think is why we see so many “strong” shots). He is going to be really fun to watch in the next few years. He is a heck of an athlete and one of those guys that seems to float in the air forever.
I don’t think keegan is any more skilled than pmac, he just plays more under control right now. Which is worth a lot and a real attribute for a true frosh. I do think pmac’s biggest asset will be his aggressiveness tho. We’ve seen his ability to get to the rim pretty much at will, he just needs to slow down once he gets there and focus on finishing. Adding weight/strength will help with that. Patrick has a lot of attributes to be a real stud!
I have no idea where his 4 stars came from. His last name?
He looks like a good athlete who just started playing BB last year,
rather than the son of a college coach. I don't see much of any
structured basketball skill sets that have value at this level.
Not as a 4, not as a 3, not as a 2,.....
I hope I'm wrong, but with the BB exposure he's had, and the fact that
he's 21, I don't expect the needed transformation.
You must have some tie to PMAC.
No, PMac is not best athlete on team.
For example, . Keegan is quicker jumper, quicker laterally/change in direction and has same vertical jump.
PMAC has length on Keegan, that is it. Keegan shoots FT better, has purer stroke. I would assume Kris is also the
better athlete. Even Weezy is a least as good a raw athlete as Pmac.
except keagan’s a better shooter, passer and rebounder. More versatile in how he scores and does a lot better job finishing underneath and takes on contact.
First, I have no personal connection to the McCs. I just have a different opinion. I could be wrong but I'm probably not.
Second, there is no question that Keegan has superior basketball skills at this point. Nor is my opinion of Patrick's athleticism intended as in any way derogating Keegan's athleticism. I do not think Keegan is faster, jumps as high or generally moves as fast. However, Keegan is a good athlete with good quickness, tremendous instincts and a nose for the ball and superior offensive skills. If Ke Murray and P McC were competing for minutes the minutes would go to Keegan; but, they are not competing for playing time. Indeed, Iowa's best defensive group is keyed on Patrick and Keegan playing together. That twosome covers a lot of court. Could both be starting next season.
I think Patrick will continue to get stronger and will learn to play more under control. Once/if that happens his superior athleticism will become more apparent.
Second, there is no question that Keegan has superior basketball skills at this point. Nor is my opinion of Patrick's athleticism intended as in any way derogating Keegan's athleticism. I do not think Keegan is faster, jumps as high or generally moves as fast. However, Keegan is a good athlete with good quickness, tremendous instincts and a nose for the ball and superior offensive skills. If Ke Murray and P McC were competing for minutes the minutes would go to Keegan; but, they are not competing for playing time. Indeed, Iowa's best defensive group is keyed on Patrick and Keegan playing together. That twosome covers a lot of court. Could both be starting next season.
I think Patrick will continue to get stronger and will learn to play more under control. Once/if that happens his superior athleticism will become more apparent.
