Clones should have kept Paw. IMHO he is the best coach they have had since Earl Bruce. He had some big wins, Nebraska, OK State, Texas, Iowa. He just blew too many wins. Now they have to hire another guy who will need to learn on the job.. I get that you have to sell tickets and the clone fans may be done, but good luck finding anybody any better.
Paul Rhodes Fired....Finally
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That's an incredible stat for Tom Osborne, I'm no fan of Nebraska but I wish I was old enough to watch some of those teams.
Except that they aren't a play or two away.... they were two quarters away in every game..... so ya pretty close.
Honestly, thinking about how much AD Jamie Pollard like to rub it in on Iowa, I'd bet Bo Pelini with Barney cotton as OC .
ISU will probably try to keep up with the rest of the Big 12 and look for a coach who runs the spread. Same ISU just a different coach.
That's ridiculous. In two of them, there's simply no question that one play cost them the game. Missed a short field goal on the last play of regulation with the score tied at Toledo, and fumbled instead of running out the clock with the lead yesterday.
The other two, it's a stretch to say one play decided it. But with three minutes left we were tied in one and leading in the other. So "one play" is a hell of a lot closer to reality than "two quarters." The "two quarters" would apply to TCU.
That's the difference. Rhoads lost a lot of close games. Won several, too, but lost quite a few more.
You must be new here. The strength of the opponent has nothing to do with winning or losing. Several regulars have made this point many, many times.
You are correct, though. Except I don't know if I'd categorize playing at KSU an "easy" game. They still have a chance to be bowl-eligible. They were favored by a TD yesterday. But yes, it's a game ISU simply could not afford to lose. Same with Toledo. Certainly playing at Toledo this year was not an easy Game. But it's a game ISU should have won. Forget about the others; if we take care of business in those two, we're playing for a bowl bid next week and Rhoads still has a job.
The flip side of this is what ultimately cost Mac the job. He didn't take advantage of those years when he had a soft schedule.
Yeah, although Utter was hurt a lot. The QB for the upset of Nebraska was the third-teamer, Marv Seiler, who had seen almost no action in his career. Walden started him because he was a hard-working senior, the other guys were hurt, and the season was pretty much in the dumper, anyway. Marvelous Marv hasn't bought a drink in Ames since then, I'll bet.
One downside for using the wishbone was that a freshman RB from Miami wasn't suited to it, so he hardly ever played. Name was Troy Davis.
Would Miles be a candidate in Ames, or would he go for something more high profile.
There is about as close to 0 chance as you can get that a guy who averaged 10 wins a year would take a job in Ames.
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I disagree with firing the coach he was a good fit for Iowa St. Alot of teams looking for a new head coach now. Sad
I disagree with firing the coach he was a good fit for Iowa St. Alot of teams looking for a new head coach now. Sad
I think any coach who has aspirations of something more has to think long and hard before taking this job. I agree that's it's better than it has been in many respects but it's still an up hill battle and a huge risk. If you do not make it and/or come out with a losing record you might be toast for future opportunities.
Case and point Rhoads. At 32-54 and being fired, his odds of ever being a power 5 coach again are limited. Case and point Chizek. I believe one of the reasons he was fired so quickly at Auburn at the first sign of trouble was his record coming from ISU; 5-19. Yes having Newton took away from his national title as a coach but the lack of respect was magnified by his stay at ISU. It's a potential albatross for your career.
I am really not trying to bag on them. It's just the reality of their history and situation being the northern most school in a Texas football league. The coach who accepts is going to really, really have to know what he is getting into and accepting. McCarney did and it was his best shot to be a head coach. Probably true with Rhoads.
You can win anywhere but can you sustain? The sustain is much harder than the initial winning. As soon as you win fans are never satisfied again with falling back. The price of poker rises.
Case and point Rhoads. At 32-54 and being fired, his odds of ever being a power 5 coach again are limited. Case and point Chizek. I believe one of the reasons he was fired so quickly at Auburn at the first sign of trouble was his record coming from ISU; 5-19. Yes having Newton took away from his national title as a coach but the lack of respect was magnified by his stay at ISU. It's a potential albatross for your career.
I am really not trying to bag on them. It's just the reality of their history and situation being the northern most school in a Texas football league. The coach who accepts is going to really, really have to know what he is getting into and accepting. McCarney did and it was his best shot to be a head coach. Probably true with Rhoads.
You can win anywhere but can you sustain? The sustain is much harder than the initial winning. As soon as you win fans are never satisfied again with falling back. The price of poker rises.
God, I hope not. Shit on Pelini all day, sure, but the guy was a winner at every damn stop. As a position coach and coordinator, his units were always better with him than without him.
I'd rather they get an Art Briles or someone (his scheme wouldn't work there, anyway). Pelini might be capable of making them good.
Douglas C. Neidermeyer
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Ummmmmmmmmmmmm....their offensive line isn't that bad this year. They run the ball pretty well.
Zero percent chance that happens. Pollard reportedly passed up the chance to hire Harbaugh because he thought he would be too difficult to work with, and he's the poster boy for sanity compared to Bo.
Iowa State made a big mistake firing Paul Rhodes. He did a better job of filling the stadium than the coaches before them, and slaughtered Texas this year. With Paul Rhodes
gone, Iowa has a better chance of beating them. Iowa State should have beat Kansas State, and lost to the # 3 team in the country in the last two minutes.
Douglas C. Neidermeyer
HB Legend
Well, with all due respect, I will post one of my favorite animated gifs:
I bet that poor student manager that had to closely shadow Rhodes all game holding his headset tethered to a six foot cable is relieved he got canned.
This is true. Starting with the Toledo game, ISU has done OK in that department. The emergence of Mike Warren had a lot to do with that, and the switch to Lanning, but the OL wasn't bad and had some depth for a change. There are a lot of underclassmen making major contributions on both sides of the ball. This is why a lot of us figured Rhoads would be back next year if he didn't screw the pooch....whereupon he screwed the pooch, big-time, two weeks in a row.
I think Pelini is going to have a tough time finding a job. I think if he would have cleaned up his act at Youngstown, it would only have been a matter of time, but he has been blowing gaskets and going crazy this year. Not saying it couldn't happen, his stock is just really low.
Watch how fast the Clone fans reverse their feelings about Rhoads if they win at WVU Sat.They have outstanding facilities, including a weight/conditioning room built three years or so ago that is among the best in the country. That isn't the problem.
As for new coaches, refresh my memory....is Kirk Ferentz available? I was thinking a lot of posters here were adamant about firing him a few weeks ago.....
You honestly think ISU fans will wish Rhoads was retained if they beat a mediocre WVU team Saturday?
There are two guarantees of what will play out now that the clones are looking for a head coach.
1. Leath err. Pollard will state that whoever takes the job is the only candidate they were really looking at and the offer they made.
2. Chrissy Williams will go on and on and on and on and on for days about how isu was the only school to get their coaching hire correct and clone fans will buy it hook line and sinker.
1. Leath err. Pollard will state that whoever takes the job is the only candidate they were really looking at and the offer they made.
2. Chrissy Williams will go on and on and on and on and on for days about how isu was the only school to get their coaching hire correct and clone fans will buy it hook line and sinker.
If Rhoads would have just been blown out by KSU as usual, I think he would have been fine. It would be BAU but somehow he found a new way to lose that was even more frustrating for clones.
There is already Clone fans having remorse and saying how big a mistake this is, so yes, I do.
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