Wow, I guess Pete needs no Ambient for bed, maybe I do since I'm up this late... Anyway, I found this interesting video supporting Pete.
What do you guys think?
What do you guys think?
Peter Jok - NBA draft Star Sleeper
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his first few points are very legitimate. Regarding his ability to shoot at different angles and off of the pass and pick and roll as well as everything about his shooting ability.
It's pretty obvious this guy didn't watch any Iowa games but simply just watched a highlight reel.
It's pretty obvious this guy didn't watch any Iowa games but simply just watched a highlight reel.
As an Iowa fan, have got to like this guy's analysis of Jok's game. Offensively, we'll miss him next year.
Do think he stretches the evaluation of Peter's athleticism. What he gave us in offense, Pete often took away with some of his lack of physical ability on D. Our scoring margin will hopefully increase next year.
Was a bit bothered by this guy thinking that the word "off" is spelled "of", as in shooting "of the dribble".
Do think he stretches the evaluation of Peter's athleticism. What he gave us in offense, Pete often took away with some of his lack of physical ability on D. Our scoring margin will hopefully increase next year.
Was a bit bothered by this guy thinking that the word "off" is spelled "of", as in shooting "of the dribble".
Great shooters who are mediocre defensive players are a dime a dozen in the NBA.
But not REALLY great shooters. The question is which category Jok falls into. It is not too late for him to pick up his defense. $$$ is a great motivator and that is what Jok has lacked.
there were several on here who wont admit it..claimed Devyn Marble would never get drafted...
Peter?...one would think there might be a NBA team that would be interested in his ability to shoot..because he can flat out shoot at 6'6".
Peter?...one would think there might be a NBA team that would be interested in his ability to shoot..because he can flat out shoot at 6'6".
Jok doesn't really need to play great defense, the NBA is now a pick and roll league for the most part. All he needs to do is be able to stay in front of his guy. He has the size where if they switch he can still guard a post guy till help arrives. I think Jok could be a decent NBA player but he needs to work on his ball handling a little more and getting to the rim a bit more. I could see him having a nice 5-8 year NBA career if he gets on with the right team, like San Antonio or Boston, teams that like to move the ball more.
I think Peter's defensive deficiencies are a bit overblown. I'm not suggesting that he wasn't expected to play defense for the Hawks, but I do believe every effort was made to allow him to conserve his energies for the offensive side of the floor. Other scoring options developed as the season wore on, but from the start Pete was focal point #1 for every defense we faced. He worked hard all season just to get his shots. I'm not suggesting he'll ever make anyone's all-defensive team, but I do think he will avoid being a liability at the next level.
Going back a generation or so in Iowa history, we had another wing shooter from Des Moines who wasn't known as a defender at Iowa. Bobby Hansen eventually became a plus defender as a role player in his decade long NBA career. I think Jok's skills and tenacity will enable him to do whatever is necessary to succeed in the league and help reintroduce the Iowa program to the NBA.
Going back a generation or so in Iowa history, we had another wing shooter from Des Moines who wasn't known as a defender at Iowa. Bobby Hansen eventually became a plus defender as a role player in his decade long NBA career. I think Jok's skills and tenacity will enable him to do whatever is necessary to succeed in the league and help reintroduce the Iowa program to the NBA.
how long has kyle korver been in the league? jok is close if not as good a shooter of the basketball as kk. i think he sticks.
Maybe. I don't think he's strong enough for an 82 game season. Might latch on like Uthoff initially, but may not play major minutes ever.
He must get stronger.
He must get stronger.
I agree on the strength especially with thr ball in his hands and his ball-handling is pretty atrocious at times. He'll definitely have to improve that. But I do think with his size and his Elite shooting ability he could have a really good chance
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Yah, with that kind of spelling the writer appears to be in line for a White House job.
BTW: Don't underestimate Peter Jok. Shooters like Pete don't fall out of trees. I hope he has a long and prosperous career, and I believe he will.
Absolutely agree. Look, this day and age it's a lot more difficult for kids coming out of college as seniors to get drafted in the NBA. One, the one-and-done freshmen garner all of the attention and two, there is always a long list of Euro/foreign players whom the "experts" are drooling over and touting to be the next Dirk Nowitzski or Manu Ginoboli.
In short, Peter has a great chance to get drafted some time in the second round and a chance to eventually work his way onto a roster and become a role player off the bench (obviously for his shooting). Jok's limitations are obviously his defense and athleticism. It's really a shame he hurt his knee in high school (I could be wrong but I was always told he used to be really athletic), because if he was an explosive player (like Ricky Davis explosive) he could have potentially been a solid player/All-Star in the League. Of course, he would have likely chucked the deuces at Iowa his sophomore or junior year had that been the case. But, yes, wow, can the kid light it up from deep.
Wait, you're comparing him to one of the best 3pt shooters in the league and season % record holder? We'll see.
Sticking in NBA is the goal and that is very difficult.
My recollection is Gatens was undrafted and Luke Recker, Adam Haluska and Aaron White were drafted in 2nd round. Marble was also drafted in 2nd round? Getting drafted in 2nd round doesn't mean much if you get cut and never stick in NBA. Marble stuck for a short while but looks like his NBA career might be over since he is playing in same European league as Mike Gesell.
Personally, I think Uthoff has best chance at a NBA career of any recent Iowa player. Uthoff can also block shots and is stretch 4. His body is getting stronger and he works hard and has amazing skills.
Jok on other hand, although he has sweet shot---I worry his lack of athleticism/quickness on defense will hurt him and I am guessing he is more like Luke Recker in NBA career success.
I am rooting for Jok and Uthoff to succeed. If not, maybe long European career like Brunner had.
Popavich and Stevens take defense very seriously. Their teams are full of good defenders.
Theres only a handful of guys in the nba that arent good defenders and theyre the elite offensive weapons like Harden, Curry, Kyrie Irving.
Kover is a much better defender and much better at running off screens.
Jok has one element, but there is no shot of him sticking unless he improves other areas dramatically.
Physically I think he could do it but ive not seen anything remotely resembling the effort nesscesary to get there at this point.
The average NBA career is between 5 and 6 years. Marble played about 3. I think that is more than a short while. And he is still playing for pay.
Pete played some ok defense, when he paid attention. In fact, he could be a sneaky defender when he wanted to be, thus all his steals. The problem with Sneaky Pete, is that he has suffered from Spacingoffondefensitis. Kind of like ADD for basketball, on the defensive side of the ball. And he has a serious case of this, rare for his skill level, syndrome.
If he can get the right medication from the NBA, he can increase his defensive performances immensely. That and he will be logging a ton more bench minutes, and should have significantly more energy to put towards defense. Thus allowing him to stay in the NBA for many a moon.
That's my call. He will get the NBA meds(Swiftkickintheassen), has more energy from all the bench rest, keeps up with that awesome shot, and he makes millions for years. All it will take is paying more attention on defense, and taking some energy lessons from Baer.
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- Should have also mentioned his amazing FT shooting percentages.
- His weaknesses also include marginal dribbling ability.
- Also, creating his own shot was suspect against elite defenders, which will mean virtually everyone playing big minutes in the NBA.
Pete's shots (especially in slow-mo) are things of beauty. I hope he is selected in the first round. I can't imagine a shooter like him sitting in the D-League. Also, I was reminded of BJ Armstrong while watching the vid. Strange.
That's kinda what i was thinking. Seems like they pick it up in the playoffs. Not like i really watch much nba though.
Best defense in the world is played in the NBA. Very good college players get chewed up and spit out by the NBA.
Defense is very much present in the NBA.
The difference between regular season and playoffs is really no different than anyother pro leauge.
Devyn played 44 games over 2 seasons, and he spent a fair amount of those years inactive or in the D-league. That is a short while.
Also, the average NBA career is less than 5 years.
So funny seeing quotes like this from people who don't watch the association. Gotta love people who have opinions on things while not even watching the games.
Everytime I was watching it seemed like he had gotten hurt. Those NBA guys will really rough him up. He gets frustrated easily. He may get drafted but will play in Europe if he needs money cause he will not last in the NBA
Guy doing the analysis is correct about Pete's pure shooting ability. He is an outstanding shooter off the catch and off the dribble. Pete's shot is a pure as it gets. Otherwise, not so much. Pete's feel for the game and ability to create has improved, but it is at best still average. If a really good defender is allowed to get in Pete's space, he struggles because he is not a good ball handler and lacks the strength to play through contact. On defense, Pete's instincts have improved, when he is trying to play defense, but he lacks the quickness and toughness to ever be even an average defender.
I think Pete will get a long look from teams before the draft because he is an elite shooter. I think there is a good chance that a team will take him in the second round, hoping that he can continue to improve his ball handling and strength. On the right team, Pete could become an instant offense guy for minutes off the bench, but that might be a year or two down the road. More likely, Pete will make a good living overseas, where he could score a lot of points in leagues that are more like senior AAU ball.
I agree with the poster who said that Uthoff has a much more complete game and has a better chance at sticking in the NBA.
I think Pete will get a long look from teams before the draft because he is an elite shooter. I think there is a good chance that a team will take him in the second round, hoping that he can continue to improve his ball handling and strength. On the right team, Pete could become an instant offense guy for minutes off the bench, but that might be a year or two down the road. More likely, Pete will make a good living overseas, where he could score a lot of points in leagues that are more like senior AAU ball.
I agree with the poster who said that Uthoff has a much more complete game and has a better chance at sticking in the NBA.
