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Pineapple Express is going to slam Cali in the next several days. They expect the first ever hurricane force winds to hit. Whoa, now. Hang on, y’all.

Wind has been nuts today. Most the county is without power. Expected to blow like this for another 5-6 hours. As I was typing this a flood warning popped up.
 
Say what you will about climate change, but I for one find it kinda funny that people get surprised that an area where every square foot from the coast to the mountains is covered by houses experiences said houses sliding into the sea on mudslides
 
Say what you will about climate change, but I for one find it kinda funny that people get surprised that an area where every square foot from the coast to the mountains is covered by houses experiences said houses sliding into the sea on mudslides
It’s not though.

Housing prices in San Francisco, and in many other communities for miles around, were once no higher than in the rest of the United States. But, beginning in the 1970s, housing prices in these communities skyrocketed to three or four times the national average.

Why? Because local government laws and policies severely restricted, or banned outright, the building of anything on vast areas of land. This is called preserving “open space,” and “open space” has become almost a cult obsession among self-righteous environmental activists, many of whom are sufficiently affluent that they don’t have to worry about housing prices.

Some others have bought the argument that there is just very little land left in coastal California, on which to build homes. But anyone who drives down Highway 280 for thirty miles or so from San Francisco to Palo Alto, will see mile after mile of vast areas of land with not a building or a house in sight.

How “complex” is it to figure out that letting people build homes in some of that vast expanse of “open space” would keep housing from becoming “unaffordable”?

Was it just a big coincidence that housing prices in coastal California began skyrocketing in the 1970s, when building bans spread like wildfire under the banner of “open space,” “saving farmland,” or whatever other slogans would impress the gullible?

When more than half the land in San Mateo County is legally off-limits to building, how surprised should we be that housing prices in the city of San Mateo are now so high that politically appointed task forces have to be formed to solve the “complex” question of how things got to be the way they are and what to do about it?
 
It’s not though.

Housing prices in San Francisco, and in many other communities for miles around, were once no higher than in the rest of the United States. But, beginning in the 1970s, housing prices in these communities skyrocketed to three or four times the national average.

Why? Because local government laws and policies severely restricted, or banned outright, the building of anything on vast areas of land. This is called preserving “open space,” and “open space” has become almost a cult obsession among self-righteous environmental activists, many of whom are sufficiently affluent that they don’t have to worry about housing prices.

Some others have bought the argument that there is just very little land left in coastal California, on which to build homes. But anyone who drives down Highway 280 for thirty miles or so from San Francisco to Palo Alto, will see mile after mile of vast areas of land with not a building or a house in sight.

How “complex” is it to figure out that letting people build homes in some of that vast expanse of “open space” would keep housing from becoming “unaffordable”?

Was it just a big coincidence that housing prices in coastal California began skyrocketing in the 1970s, when building bans spread like wildfire under the banner of “open space,” “saving farmland,” or whatever other slogans would impress the gullible?

When more than half the land in San Mateo County is legally off-limits to building, how surprised should we be that housing prices in the city of San Mateo are now so high that politically appointed task forces have to be formed to solve the “complex” question of how things got to be the way they are and what to do about it?
candidly, i had socal in mind. it's like our version of 'from the mountains to the sea'.
 
If California isn’t harnessing and increasing storage for all this free water they are an even more poorly run state than I thought.
what do you think "increasing storage" means?

they should build basins all over the state large enough to store the water shown in the video below your comment?
 
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It’s not though.

Housing prices in San Francisco, and in many other communities for miles around, were once no higher than in the rest of the United States. But, beginning in the 1970s, housing prices in these communities skyrocketed to three or four times the national average.

Why? Because local government laws and policies severely restricted, or banned outright, the building of anything on vast areas of land. This is called preserving “open space,” and “open space” has become almost a cult obsession among self-righteous environmental activists, many of whom are sufficiently affluent that they don’t have to worry about housing prices.

Some others have bought the argument that there is just very little land left in coastal California, on which to build homes. But anyone who drives down Highway 280 for thirty miles or so from San Francisco to Palo Alto, will see mile after mile of vast areas of land with not a building or a house in sight.

How “complex” is it to figure out that letting people build homes in some of that vast expanse of “open space” would keep housing from becoming “unaffordable”?

Was it just a big coincidence that housing prices in coastal California began skyrocketing in the 1970s, when building bans spread like wildfire under the banner of “open space,” “saving farmland,” or whatever other slogans would impress the gullible?

When more than half the land in San Mateo County is legally off-limits to building, how surprised should we be that housing prices in the city of San Mateo are now so high that politically appointed task forces have to be formed to solve the “complex” question of how things got to be the way they are and what to do about it?
Build up rather than. Simple enough.
 
what do you think "increasing storage" means?

they should build basins all over the state large enough to store the water shown in the video below your comment?
He's a moron.
You don't save water from these events, you use the capacity in all the dams/reservoirs to mitigate flooding impacts and then you release most of it slowly to make way for the next storm.
There is only ONE undammed river in CA and that's up near the Oregon border.
Impounding more water isn't our problem, it's using what we have more efficiently.
 
Impounding more water isn't our problem, it's using what we have more efficiently.
The only way to do that is to market price it.

Somebody has to hit reset on riparian rights. Estimates made over a 100 years ago were probably incorrect then, and are certainly incorrect today.
Need to have the government set minimum flow on the river from an ecological standpoint and bid the rest.
It’s the only way to rationalize it.
 
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The only way to do that is to market price it.

Somebody has to hit reset on riparian rights. Estimates made over a 100 years ago were probably incorrect then, and are certainly incorrect today.
Need to have the government set minimum flow on the river from an ecological standpoint and bid the rest.
It’s the only way to rationalize it.
Yes, but corporate farms are fighting tooth and nail against that. You see signs all up the valley decrying limiting irrigation water limits.
 
Not another “never in history” thread. There are dry rivers and ravines in the west that were cut somehow.
 
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