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Pinstripe Attendance

i spent yesterday in nyc and went to the game, it was a beautiful day to explore the city, crisp but sunny. had a great time in manhattan- love the energy, architecture, food etc. each neighborhood is a little different and you could spend months there and not run out of new things to explore. and what the hell is this constant chatter about all rooms being 500 or more- obviously comes from those who rarely travel to nyc. i have stayed at many nice hotels in manhattan and never spent more than 300 and have found bargains at 150 on tripadvisor. also, why stay at times square when the rest of manhattan is so much nicer. i love lower manhattan, more historic and less frenetic. my major criticism regarding the bowl is that it should be played in the afternoon and not at night. if this game had been played yesterday afternoon it would have been much more enjoyable for the fans and probably less slipping and sliding by the players. a bowl game at night in december in the north is a little crazy. nonetheless, had a great time drinking with hawk fans at the dugout before the game.
 
Yeah, I'd say the attendance wasn't too bad and hope all that made it to the game had a great time.

I'm ok keeping this bowl with the conference. Gets some nice exposure for the Hawkeyes in NYC, and really, I've spent Christmas in the city quite a few times and it was never cold like this. Just bad luck to have this frigid cold sweep through. I do like that other poster's idea of getting an SEC partner to come in for the game though.
The SEC doesn't like to send its teams to cold weather games. I think the northern most bowl tie in the SEC has is the Music City Bowl in Nashville.
 
NYC sucks anyway you look at it.. I have been there a half a dozen times and worked there for months at a time and everything from the people who live there to everything about it is as trashiest at its best ... it's the worst site of any bowl game period and a punishment to be forced to play there. If you don't believe me ask the 30,000 other fans that didn't make the game.

I love NYC. I was just there the week before Christmas. Seeing it lit up for the holidays is fantastic. There's so much energy.
 
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i spent yesterday in nyc and went to the game, it was a beautiful day to explore the city, crisp but sunny. had a great time in manhattan- love the energy, architecture, food etc. each neighborhood is a little different and you could spend months there and not run out of new things to explore. and what the hell is this constant chatter about all rooms being 500 or more- obviously comes from those who rarely travel to nyc. i have stayed at many nice hotels in manhattan and never spent more than 300 and have found bargains at 150 on tripadvisor. also, why stay at times square when the rest of manhattan is so much nicer. i love lower manhattan, more historic and less frenetic. my major criticism regarding the bowl is that it should be played in the afternoon and not at night. if this game had been played yesterday afternoon it would have been much more enjoyable for the fans and probably less slipping and sliding by the players. a bowl game at night in december in the north is a little crazy. nonetheless, had a great time drinking with hawk fans at the dugout before the game.
Yeah I got a nice hotel for 99 in midtown east last year for the Rutgers game. I got lucky but I would have been able to get a hotel for under $200 pretty reasonably.
 
I have no idea really, but I find it very hard to believe that 37,000 were actually in attendance. That must have been paid attendance and I'm guessing that the full Iowa allotment counts in those ticket sales since they have to buy that amount from the bowl.
The same could be said for all the other pinstripe bowls that were in that 37K-39K range.
 
As I’ve said before, more of these “lesser” bowls should be fairly small stadiums. Like a bowl in Dallas area could use SMU’s stadium. And UCF’s is nice - do they host one yet?
 
I love NYC. I was just there the week before Christmas. Seeing it lit up for the holidays is fantastic. There's so much energy.
One of the world’s greatest cities in many ways. I, too, love NY and wish I could have gone to the game with the rest of my family.

Not everyone’s cup of tea, I get that. But geez, people.
 
Butts in seats don't matter anymore...ESPN owns so many of the bowls now, and all they care about is selling ads for live content...
 
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If the SEC did tie-in to the Pinstripe Bowl, they'd send their more northern teams (or lower-revenue schools) (Kentucky, Missouri, Vanderbilt, etc.).

As for attendance, with so many bowls now, schools don't go long periods between bowl appearances that people can't keep traveling to them year after year, especially if the school gets sent to a lower-tier bowl.
 
Butts in seats don't matter anymore...ESPN owns so many of the bowls now, and all they care about is selling ads for live content...
Agree 100. Most every stadium has been half full in all of the games leading up to Friday. They are spaced out enough by ESPN that they can rake in money from advertisers. I don’t think butts in seats really matter anymore.
 
As I’ve said before, more of these “lesser” bowls should be fairly small stadiums. Like a bowl in Dallas area could use SMU’s stadium. And UCF’s is nice - do they host one yet?

Tulane’s new stadium in New Orleans holds 30,000
FAU already has a bowl, right?
Texas State’s in Austin area holds 30,000
NMSU already has one? Or does UNM? 30,000 and 40,000
San Jose St? Stadium looks a little dated
North Texas near Dallas is just over 30,000
SMU in Dallas seats 32,000
Las Vegas Bowl stadium is under 40,000. Well done size-wise
Houston Cougars seat 40,000
UCF seats 45,000
FIU has one that’s seats just over 20,000
Texas Southern in Houston seats 22,000 (soccer stadium with litttle room behind endzone)
Charger’s StubHub Center at 27,700

If Boca Raton (FAU) or Las Vegas Bowl could get their payoff high enough and change date until after Christmas I would think B1G fans would be interested. More so than Foster Farms. Miami and Vegas much easier to get to than The Bay.

I realize it’s more about TV ratings and ads than attendance at bowls now, but might as well host them in stadiums with a chance of filling. Give the teams and fans a better atmosphere- see our b-ball game at the pentagon
 
Tulane’s new stadium in New Orleans holds 30,000
FAU already has a bowl, right?
Texas State’s in Austin area holds 30,000
NMSU already has one? Or does UNM? 30,000 and 40,000
San Jose St? Stadium looks a little dated
North Texas near Dallas is just over 30,000
SMU in Dallas seats 32,000
Las Vegas Bowl stadium is under 40,000. Well done size-wise
Houston Cougars seat 40,000
UCF seats 45,000
FIU has one that’s seats just over 20,000
Texas Southern in Houston seats 22,000 (soccer stadium with litttle room behind endzone)
Charger’s StubHub Center at 27,700

If Boca Raton (FAU) or Las Vegas Bowl could get their payoff high enough and change date until after Christmas I would think B1G fans would be interested. More so than Foster Farms. Miami and Vegas much easier to get to than The Bay.

I realize it’s more about TV ratings and ads than attendance at bowls now, but might as well host them in stadiums with a chance of filling. Give the teams and fans a better atmosphere- see our b-ball game at the pentagon

Not against this. Although, the idea of me getting cheap tickets as I wait until the last minute for future bowl games is kind of OK too.
 
Lets see -- official paid attendance

Pinstripe Bowl 37,667

Las Vegas Bowl (Oregon & Boise) -- 36,432
Independence Bowl (Florida St & Southern Mississippi) 33,601
Cactus Bowl (Kansas State & UCLA) 32,859
Birmingham Bowl (Texas Tech & a G5 team) 28,623
Heart of Dallas Bowl (Utah & West Virginia) 20,507
Quick Lane Bowl (Duke & Northern Illinois) 20,211
Armed Forces Bowl (Army & another G5 team) 35,986
Everything else all involving G5 teams anywhere from 13,000 to 29.000

Is that just around 38.000 great? No. But it's more than anyone else so far and most everyone else played in warmer weather places

Wow! Only 20,000 in downtown Dallas for Utah-WVa? That is plain awful. I think that game is usually more than twice that. Might be the worst attended P5-vs-P5-type bowl game in history. The Cotton Bowl must've been looking massive and empty. Sad.
 
Wow! Only 20,000 in downtown Dallas for Utah-WVa? That is plain awful. I think that game is usually more than twice that. Might be the worst attended P5-vs-P5-type bowl game in history. The Cotton Bowl must've been looking massive and empty. Sad.

20k is generous from what I saw of the stands
 
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If Boca Raton (FAU) or Las Vegas Bowl could get their payoff high enough and change date until after Christmas I would think B1G fans would be interested. More so than Foster Farms. Miami and Vegas much easier to get to than The Bay.

Las Vegas Bowl will move to Raiders' new stadium and be on the B1G's next 6-year bowl lineup 2020-25, IMHO.
 
It looked so cold on TV. Props to the fans that went. I want the B1G to get out of this bowl as soon as humanly possible. NYC is a great town, but it's expensive, and the weather is miserable in late December.

Hey dude, put your thinking cap on for a moment, has it ever dawned on you why Jim Delaney has aligned the B1G in the Pinstripe, or is that too hard to understand? Or is it simply much easier for you to sit back in your lounge chair, remain clueless, and bitch?
 
Hey dude, put your thinking cap on for a moment, has it ever dawned on you why Jim Delaney has aligned the B1G in the Pinstripe, or is that too hard to understand? Or is it simply much easier for you to sit back in your lounge chair, remain clueless, and bitch?

I’m not clueless, and I assure you that I understand why Delaney aligned himself with that bowl. Question is, is it valuable? The weather is miserable and 30,000 fans came out. If Delaney wants to align himself with the New York market, it seems it would be a better idea to do a kick off classic type of game at Giant’s stadium in October. May draw more fans and turn on more TVs. Similar to what the SEC does in Atlanta. NYC during Christmas is pretty, but it’s cold and expensive during an expensive time of year.
 
Tulane’s new stadium in New Orleans holds 30,000
FAU already has a bowl, right?
Texas State’s in Austin area holds 30,000
NMSU already has one? Or does UNM? 30,000 and 40,000
San Jose St? Stadium looks a little dated
North Texas near Dallas is just over 30,000
SMU in Dallas seats 32,000
Las Vegas Bowl stadium is under 40,000. Well done size-wise
Houston Cougars seat 40,000
UCF seats 45,000
FIU has one that’s seats just over 20,000
Texas Southern in Houston seats 22,000 (soccer stadium with litttle room behind endzone)
Charger’s StubHub Center at 27,700

If Boca Raton (FAU) or Las Vegas Bowl could get their payoff high enough and change date until after Christmas I would think B1G fans would be interested. More so than Foster Farms. Miami and Vegas much easier to get to than The Bay.

I realize it’s more about TV ratings and ads than attendance at bowls now, but might as well host them in stadiums with a chance of filling. Give the teams and fans a better atmosphere- see our b-ball game at the pentagon

I thought MLS stadiums would be much better. There would be good candidates, some you eluded to. All of these would have plenty of room because most soccer fields are 120 yards long and wider than football fields.
Stub hub Center (LA Galaxy)- 27k
Orlando City Stadium- 25k
Avaya Stadium (San Jose Earthquakes)- 18k
BBVA Compass Stadium (Houston Dynamo)- 22k
Children's Mercy (sporting KC)- 18.5k
Toyota Stadium (FC Dallas)- 16k
 
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they need to keep it....BUT it needs to be a b1g/sec game!!! :D
Exactly right. The game should be played on a field that can be heated, so that there not playing on a skating rink. Other then that, I'd like to see more of the bowls played up north in the elements, and not home games for Florida, USC, Stanford, LSU, etc..... If the fans really want to see the BIG,(not just OSU), win some of these playoff games, thats our best shot.IMHO of course.
 
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I’m not clueless, and I assure you that I understand why Delaney aligned himself with that bowl. Question is, is it valuable? The weather is miserable and 30,000 fans came out. If Delaney wants to align himself with the New York market, it seems it would be a better idea to do a kick off classic type of game at Giant’s stadium in October. May draw more fans and turn on more TVs. Similar to what the SEC does in Atlanta. NYC during Christmas is pretty, but it’s cold and expensive during an expensive time of year.

If the game had been played during the day instead of the night most of the bitching by Iowa fans like you would go away. I don't know of one person who made the bowl trip say they had a bad time.

You really think that had the game been played 20 minutes from Yankee Stadium at Giants Stadium instead, people would have bitched less? C'mon.Kickoff Classic game in October? Sorry dude, that hasn't existed since the 1980s.

Delaney has made millions and millions for each B1G school through bowl alignments, TV contracts, B1G Network, and conference expansion. No other college football conference has been made wealthier than the B1G under his direction. In other words, the guy knows what he's doing. Not a B1G AD or athletic administration doesn't love him for his achievements.
 
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