All of them have found that PP innocent. So much for the latest GOP witchhunt.
Planned Parenthood investigations falling flat
- Thread starter Huey Grey
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It's the standard GOP playbook. Lie loud enough about PP, John Kerry, Acorn, Climategate, etc that by the time the truth comes out they have moved the needle in their favor.
You are looking at like 4 states where no videos were made. Let's open it up to all states and see where we end up.
So in response to the GOP falling flat with their baseless accusations, you think we should expand this BS? When do the Republicans ever have to take responsibility for their lies?
You bet it is. Which is exactly what the investigators did. And they clearly saw none of the GOP's lies.
"A lie travels half way around the world while the truth is putting it's boots on." The conservatives use this in their lie machine.
No they didn't Huey, they looked at 4 states. None of which were included in videos. That is like saying this branch of business over here is innocent, therefore, they are all innocent. This politician is innocent so they are all innocent. You are a little premature with your joy to keep killing babies.
All states that have concluded their investigations have found that PP was in full compliance with the law and cleared PP of any wrongdoing. This just reeks of Benghazi. Get owned on one investigation and you cry that you need another.
You are basing your joy on 4 states. Let's see what it looks like in some of the states where the videos were made.
And what happens when they uncover nothing? You'll just say we need to launch more investigations. Where's it end?
These 13 states apparently haven't read Huey's propaganda. Florida's investigation found that three of the 16 clinics in the state improperly performed 2nd trimester abortions.
http://dailysignal.com/2015/08/13/3-states-defund-and-13-states-investigate-planned-parenthood/
Of course, why let facts get in the way of your mindless drivel.
http://dailysignal.com/2015/08/13/3-states-defund-and-13-states-investigate-planned-parenthood/
Of course, why let facts get in the way of your mindless drivel.
It's pretty obvious that the Republicans aren't in search of truth here. They didn't even wait for any of the results before getting antsy and trying to cut PP funding. They had absolutely no evidence of wrongdoing but decided to punish anyway. What a crock.
Yes. Why let facts get in the way?
"In Florida, investigators last week concluded that none of the organization’s 16 clinics were illegally selling or transferring limbs, organs, or other tissue from aborted babies. They did find, though, that one clinic had not properly documented disposal of remains after abortions, and three clinics improperly performed second-trimester abortions."
The issue was never about second trimester abortions. It's always been about tissue sales which Florida couldn't find evidence of.
Wait, so 2nd trimester abortions are restricted? I keep hearing it's a free for all out there. Is this another lie blown up?
Now that four states have concluded their investigations, the fervor can start to die down about the videos. I disagree with those claiming damages as the funding was not cut (tried, failed) and as this mess continues to unfold there is a chance some people who made the videos might spend some time behind bars.
This is why I supported the investigations (though we all just talked about a national one at the time) and I say each and every time another concludes, make dang sure to report the results! And when the investigations are all over, maybe Planned Parenthood can conduct their own and report those results!
More and more results! That can be linked and stuck in threads started by posters who only hear one side of the story. And maybe, they can be reminded that their heroes are lying criminals. (Which I'm not saying they are, or aren't, just waiting to find out.)
This is why I supported the investigations (though we all just talked about a national one at the time) and I say each and every time another concludes, make dang sure to report the results! And when the investigations are all over, maybe Planned Parenthood can conduct their own and report those results!
More and more results! That can be linked and stuck in threads started by posters who only hear one side of the story. And maybe, they can be reminded that their heroes are lying criminals. (Which I'm not saying they are, or aren't, just waiting to find out.)
Great logic. That's like saying in the course of investigating a suspect for murder that w didn't find you guilty of murder but in the course of the investigation we did find out that you robbed a bank. But don't worry, we are going to let you go because the investigation was only about murder.
Are you just stupid, simple or slow?
The investigations into Planned Parenthood are in the 2nd inning and you are claiming victory.
Like the old saying goes, you can't argue with stupid.
That's a dangerous point to make when quite often stupid might be a teammate and clearly by implication we wouldn't even know it.
None of the claims made against PP have been proven untrue; to the contrary, the substantive ones have been confirmed. The lefties can lie all they want, but facts are facts, and they aren't on PP's side.
In 2005, clinics affiliated with PP performed 265,000 abortions. Oh...did I mention that with a Republican controlled Congress and Dubya Bush on the throne, PP received $305 million in grants and contracts for fiscal year '05-'06? Of course this is going nowhere.
Actually, the fact that both Republican and Democratic administrations have supported PP in the past is bad news for PP in light of the revelations of recent weeks. It gives moderate Republicans credibility when they say PP has gone too far.
I can't think of one fedgov program that has been defunded...ever.
You better hope Hillary wins in 2016 or PP will be the first. Oh, and unique thing about this scenario is the gov't wouldn't be removing this money from the budget. The same amount of money will still be spent on women's health, it just won't go to PP, it will go to other women's health centers that actually provide a wide range of health services, including those that PP doesn't provide, like mammograms.
So when PP submits a bill to medicaid, will their bill be specifically denied?
Depends on the bill. Under previous version, yes,under the latest bill, no. I have no problem with a no. Other women's medical centers don't participate in abortion, hence, the money won't be shuffled to subsidize those and harvesting of fetal tissue. This is a good thing. Unlike PP these medical centers provide more health services, like mammograms, for women. There are also a lot more of them than PP facilities and they are located in various locations throughout the community, not just in the black communities (as PP predominantly are in large urban areas), which makes it more convenient for women to get the health services they need. Finally, PP spends millions of dollars on political campaigns (they spent $12M to re-elect Obama in 2012). Why should taxpayers spend money on an organization that is a giant lobbying arm for the Dem party? Time to cut the ties. Just like Big Bird (and the Sesame Street gang) they can survive on private money, they don't need federal dollars.
If the Dem party and their supporters think PP is a great organization then they are free to pony up their own dollars to support them. No federal money.
They was truth in the swift boat ads, ACorn volunteers were making up names to register. Where are all the lies?
But Huey....look at Hillary's cellulite.....doesn't that make you sick to your stomach??? You can lie about PP, but not about this. Yikes!!!!!!
Your old presidential candidate. This would turn any husband into a woman predator/womanizer.
