Please discuss(religion)
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This is pretty much the answer... Not entirely but from the beginning of the bible, i.e the beginning of man, they were in the Middle East, and things expanded from there.
Now...I've not read the whole thing, but it's my understanding that the book of Mormon expands the story to America...
Can’t wait for soonerinlouisiana, kfsdiciple & jimstarr to come in & spew their bullshit. Always good entertainment.
Why? How much of the bible is covered by Golden Books?
The bible doesn't cover everything written over time. It's not really intended to be a complete encyclopedia of history.
I suspect the end of the Younger Dryas and subsequent rapid rise in sea levels would have had significant impact on the cultures that would develop into "civilizations" and that flood myths tap into this history.
Certainly,.. and a significant regional event could be interpreted as affecting the entire world, given that those involved might have had a limited understanding of what the entire world encompassed...
"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth..."
One of the things I like about Catholicism is that it takes a relatively mature view toward the bible which recognizes that significant parts of it are, in fact, allegory rather than history. Not all Christians are literalists.
Beyond that, I suppose the simple/semi-serious answer to the Devil - which being the Devil, he should probably already know unless he's just trolling (which of course is completely within character) - is that the Biblical story/ies reflect(s) a distinct soteriology (a story of salvation history) that took place at a very specific place, in a very specific time, and involved very specific people. (That's why the references, for example, in Luke 2 and 3). Other people elsewhere seemed to think it resonated over time and space, so there's that.
Personally, I don't know whether a/that soteriology played out in other places, or in other ways, or what the Catholic Church teaches with respect to that question. (My instinct is the vatican ii ecumenicalism gives a nod toward the possibility). But to be honest, it's never really struck me as ludicrous, for example, that Mormons believe that Jesus paid to a visit to the Americas after his middle eastern experiences.
Beyond that, I suppose the simple/semi-serious answer to the Devil - which being the Devil, he should probably already know unless he's just trolling (which of course is completely within character) - is that the Biblical story/ies reflect(s) a distinct soteriology (a story of salvation history) that took place at a very specific place, in a very specific time, and involved very specific people. (That's why the references, for example, in Luke 2 and 3). Other people elsewhere seemed to think it resonated over time and space, so there's that.
Personally, I don't know whether a/that soteriology played out in other places, or in other ways, or what the Catholic Church teaches with respect to that question. (My instinct is the vatican ii ecumenicalism gives a nod toward the possibility). But to be honest, it's never really struck me as ludicrous, for example, that Mormons believe that Jesus paid to a visit to the Americas after his middle eastern experiences.
joe man, you're backsliding with the memes. i prefer compositional joe to meme joe.
That's more factual than just a "meme".
If you bother to study the countless examples in the past of religion being used to persecute other people and justify wars.
Religion is great until churches get involved.
If you're going to be honest, you will recognize that this "view" is relatively recent, and only evolved after the rest of society progressed and the church kept re-interpreting the bible to keep pace. For most of the church's existence it has taken a very literal view of the bible.
If you disagree with that statement, or "meme", simply say so.
I think it is spot-on, particularly with our current "religious conservatives" in this country.
He is the perfect example of a modern day religious wacko. As gigantic of a tool as humanly possible. It’s impressive.
I don't think this is correct. My understanding is that biblical literalism is a relatively recent theological view becoming popular in the 19th and 20th century. Prior to that the most common interpretation is that some of it was true and some allegorical not strict literalism. Some of the earliest church fathers argued for allegorical interpretation particularly of Genesis. Also I would suggest that even the people that claim to be literalists aren't actually they adapt allegorical interpretations when necessary.
No, I just pay the left the same degree of respect that they pay us.
The difference between a cult and a religion is what happens when members try to leave.
Most Americans have left religions and there's 0 consequences. Most Americans don't belong to any church and there's no pushback.
U.S. Church Membership Falls Below Majority for First Time
For the first time in Gallup's polling history, less than half of U.S. adults report belonging to a church, synagogue or mosque.
news.gallup.com
Don't get too worldly/political, bro. There are alot more important things like eternal life.
JMHO.
Well, it makes sense, especially if one considers the New Testament which is the story of Jesus (a real historical person) who lived and was crucified (a historical fact) in modern day Israel.
The early Church began there then spread out. The New Testament details it.
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The difference between a cult and a religion is what happens when members try to leave.
Most Americans have left religions and there's 0 consequences. Most Americans don't belong to any church and there's no pushback.
U.S. Church Membership Falls Below Majority for First Time
For the first time in Gallup's polling history, less than half of U.S. adults report belonging to a church, synagogue or mosque.
There have certainly been times in history when leaving the church would be dire.
