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Police recruitment is way down.........

Meh. We'll still get good cops that do their job the right way. These drops are probably from people who were hoping to shoot someone and get away with it. Good to weed those folks out.


How many people do you suppose join the police department in hopes to "shoot someone and get away with it"?

1%, 5%, 10%?
 
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Stop requiring competent cops to sit inside county jails for 10 years before being able to see the streets.
 
"Recruitment nationally is "way down," said Jonathan Thompson, executive director of the National Sheriff’s Association. He said some sheriffs around the country say the number of applications has fallen by as much as 50 percent."

Was this the only "statistic" cited in the entire article to support its premise?

What the f*** does "some sheriff's say...." mean to anything? Is that 2 of them? 80 of them? All of them? This appears to be an op ed pretending to be an article.
 
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Linn county rules. Not sure if it's just in linn or statewide. Might be overexaggerating on 10 years but they do make them do jail duty first.

Yeah, that is simply not true. Also, jailers are with the Sheriff not the police. Many jailers do become deputies.
 
It's peculiar how cops in foreign countries are not trusted. Here, even conservatives love cops...even though they enforce the evil dictates of the corrupt, leviathan state. If legislators stopped writing laws that make criminals of free citizens, we wouldn't need so many in the surveillancing, garrison state being erected around us.
 
Any empirical evidence to show cops are retiring, and replacements can't be hired quickly enough because of Black Lives Matter? It seems like Fox has a narrative they want to push so they sought opinions, some of them anonymous for inexplicable reasons, and ignored all other possibilities. I can think of a big reason recruitment may be down. The economy is improving, and being a police officer is a very tough job. Start with the hours. They suck. You can work all hours of the day, and all days of the week. You can be sitting in your car on Christmas Eve waiting for a call to break up a domestic disturbance instead of being in your house with your family. I've said it many times on this board that it's a tragedy that our police officers are now front line mental health workers. That stuff wears on you.
Throw in a consistent effort to demonize public workers by certain politicians (Cough, Scott Walker… Cough, Bruce Rauner), as parasites who don't earn their benefits and pensions and I can see police officers feeling under appreciated.
 
Couple of the CC's instructors I have talked with said enrollment is down in the CJ courses this semester compared to past.
 
Good. Potential cops who are afraid of a little scrutiny are the ones we're better off without.
Not the reason - my son (and 3 of his classmates of various ages) was going to go into LE, he took another route as he didn't want to get SHOT for simply wearing a uniform while pumping gas - not scrutiny.
 
County deputies may start their careers in the jail first until there is a spot open for the road. It used to take around 10 years to get out of the jail and on the road, but at least in Johnson County its probably less then half that time now. A lot of deputies are actually going back to jail. Close to retirement, climate controlled, ect.
I didn't read the article but number s have been down for a long time now. When I started 23 years ago, it was darn near impossible to get in. Now we are lucky to get ten qualified applicants out of maybe 40 total.
 
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The US Army is facing recruiting shortages, also. No link to it being Obama's fault, or the Black Lives Matter movement's fault. Just a USA today article.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/07/30/army-recruiting/30900555/
The standards are a bit higher now for enlistment - when there is no war going on they don't receive just anyone through MEPS, they are more selective. As well, with the wussification and entitlement most American's display now it's no wonder that anymore our freedom is taken for granted.
 
The standards are a bit higher now for enlistment - when there is no war going on they don't receive just anyone through MEPS, they are more selective. As well, with the wussification and entitlement most American's display now it's no wonder that anymore our freedom is taken for granted.
Or, the economy is improving and the Army has to fight over marginally qualified high school graduates with the general sector. Or, the Army has dropped the size of sign on bonuses. I guess if you took a sign on bonus you were wussified and entitled as you served your country?
 
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Not the reason - my son (and 3 of his classmates of various ages) was going to go into LE, he took another route as he didn't want to get SHOT for simply wearing a uniform while pumping gas - not scrutiny.

I think we can all agree it was probably the best decision for him to choose a different route.
 
I think we can all agree it was probably the best decision for him to choose a different route.
I backed him if he wanted to stay in it as I know he was in it for the right reasons as he has always been one to help others (he is also in the military). We sat and discussed both sides of sticking with it or taking his minor and making it his major (which is what he decided to do). He can wrap his new major (kinesiology) into LE training to help make them more physically fit, etc.
 
Or, the economy is improving and the Army has to fight over marginally qualified high school graduates with the general sector. Or, the Army has dropped the size of sign on bonuses. I guess if you took a sign on bonus you were wussified and entitled as you served your country?

Nope - sign on bonuses happen at several occupations, my son didn't get one when he enlisted (wasn't one for his MOS and he never even asked). I didn't get an initial sign-on bonus back in the day, but did get one for re-enlistment (would have without it as well). The bonuses weren't expected, that would be the difference between entitled and not.
 
I backed him if he wanted to stay in it as I know he was in it for the right reasons as he has always been one to help others (he is also in the military). We sat and discussed both sides of sticking with it or taking his minor and making it his major (which is what he decided to do). He can wrap his new major (kinesiology) into LE training to help make them more physically fit, etc.

Good idea. Anyone that is afraid to be shot before they even take the basic training isn't probably fit to be a cop. It's those scared cops that make irrational decisions that got us here in the first place.
 
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Sigh. Ignorance in display.
 
Good idea. Anyone that is afraid to be shot before they even take the basic training isn't probably fit to be a cop. It's those scared cops that make irrational decisions that got us here in the first place.

Which ones "got us here to begin with"?
 
Good. Potential cops who are afraid of a little scrutiny are the ones we're better off without.

I'm not in the market for a new career, but if I were, it wouldn't be the scrutiny that would concern me, it would be the random cop shootings we've seen lately. It's obviously an exceedingly small percentage of officers that get into that, but for some right now, it's the badge that's the target and there are a lot of other things I could do without that potential threat.
 
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