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Poll: Death penalty vs Life in Prison

Which one do you consider more horrific of the two choices for American criminals

  • Death Penalty

    Votes: 39 50.0%
  • Life in prison

    Votes: 39 50.0%

  • Total voters
    78
  • Poll closed .
Work camps... No possibility for parole.
Death penalty? Hardly a punishment.
 
A child molester getting sodomized day after day in prison would be a much better punishment than a "painless" injection and then good night.
 
It depends on what you mean by "life". If I have a choice between 23.5 hours a day in solitary at a Supermax, or putting a needle in my arm tomorrow, I'll take the needle every time.

Spending the rest of your life in Gen Pop in a typical state pen would be a slightly different story.
 
Put a ball and chain around one leg and give them a sledge hammer and have them break rocks all day or have them clear out a swamp with shackles on.
 
Even if it's general population, the thought of living in a prison 23.5 hours a day, with no possibility of ever being free again, seems far worse than death.
 
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The things people do to get either sentence is what's appalling not the sentence. Libs... Making victims of perps one at a time
Do you honestly think those who oppose the death penalty or excessive sentencing are in any way excusing the crimes that earned those penalties? For your own sake, please stop saying such nonsense.

OTOH, thanks for the laugh.
 
Do you honestly think those who oppose the death penalty or excessive sentencing are in any way excusing the crimes that earned those penalties? For your own sake, please stop saying such nonsense.

OTOH, thanks for the laugh.
In the post I responded to you said nothing about the victims just the perps. And then you made the perps the victims of the horrific sentences. I thought my assumption was reasonable based on what you posted. If you want to have a discussion of too harsh sentences that a totally different discussion. As I have said in the past I do have issues with the death sentence but giving some one who has killed one or more people life in prison is no where close to excessive. In the future I would suggest you be more succinct in your posts
 
In the post I responded to you said nothing about the victims just the perps. And then you made the perps the victims of the horrific sentences. I thought my assumption was reasonable based on what you posted. If you want to have a discussion of too harsh sentences that a totally different discussion. As I have said in the past I do have issues with the death sentence but giving some one who has killed one or more people life in prison is no where close to excessive. In the future I would suggest you be more succinct in your posts
Well, you were wrong. What you thought reasonable was a clear non sequitur.

Next time, try asking instead of attacking.
 
A child molester getting sodomized day after day in prison would be a much better punishment than a "painless" injection and then good night.

Thanx for the reply. I can see your logic. But have you also considered the taxpayers have to provide food, shelter, clothing, exercise yards AND MEDICAL CARE for the pederast? It seems after raping children he moved on to raping the taxpayer in that scenario. Plus, aren't you missing the big picture regarding how often life sentences get commuted or reduced. The death penalty isn't subject to some lib Governor or Prez releasing the scum you describe.
 
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You didn't answer the question. But apparently you don't think either should be applied, ever. Why is that?
For the purpose of the poll, I answered "death penalty."

Which should have been obvious from my answer - if your reading comprehension is as good as you seem to think it is (based on your criticisms of others).

Reason it through with me:

If both are horrific, but only one can be undone, then the one that can't be undone is logically worse. Pretty simple, right?
 
A child molester getting sodomized day after day in prison would be a much better punishment than a "painless" injection and then good night.
If you think the purpose of our JUSTICE system is to administer punishment, then I suppose you have a point. Assuming, of course that the prisoner doesn't enjoy it.

But IF you think the purpose of our justice system is to administer punishment, you have already disqualified yourself as someone who should be listened to on this question.
 
Well, you were wrong. What you thought reasonable was a clear non sequitur.

Next time, try asking instead of attacking.



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For the purpose of the poll, I answered "death penalty."

Which should have been obvious from my answer - if your reading comprehension is as good as you seem to think it is (based on your criticisms of others).

Reason it through with me:

If both are horrific, but only one can be undone, then the one that can't be undone is logically worse. Pretty simple, right?

Very good. You made the right choice. I thought you were opposed to the death penalty?
 
Put a ball and chain around one leg and give them a sledge hammer and have them break rocks all day or have them clear out a swamp with shackles on.

I'm surprised you feel this way. You know as well as I that liberal judges will not allow for life at hard labor. In fact it is bizarre other keep bringing this up as a possibility.
 
Even if it's general population, the thought of living in a prison 23.5 hours a day, with no possibility of ever being free again, seems far worse than death.

So if you got life in solitary you would petition for the death sentence? I doubt if that has ever happened and I don't think anyone in this thread would do that. Anyone on this board who got the death sentence would do exactly the same thing as all the other death sentence criminals - they would appeal it and ask for a reduction to something less severe.
 
Well, you were wrong. What you thought reasonable was a clear non sequitur.

Next time, try asking instead of attacking.
In the past you have said a prison sentence is reasonable for people who do not believe it GW so your definition of reasonable is in question
 
So if you got life in solitary you would petition for the death sentence? I doubt if that has ever happened and I don't think anyone in this thread would do that. Anyone on this board who got the death sentence would do exactly the same thing as all the other death sentence criminals - they would appeal it and ask for a reduction to something less severe.

You've never heard of someone wanting the death penalty? Try google.
 
I think the DP is a more horrific action for the state to impose. I think life in prison is a more horrific thing to endure.

Agree except I would say the DP is more horrific for tax payers, and life imprisonment would be more horrific to endure.
 
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I would eliminate the death penalty. I'm in favor of life sentences in hard labor camps. I would give the prisoner option of death at any point too.
 
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In the past you have said a prison sentence is reasonable for people who do not believe it GW so your definition of reasonable is in question
I don't know what "believe it GW" means, so I can't respond to this.

If you meant "believe in the DP" then yes, I think jail time is better. That said, I have also repeatedly attacked our corrections systems, our sentencing structure, and other elements within our criminal justice system - a system I worked in for several years and have some familiarity with. So saying jail is better than execution is NOT an endorsement of incarceration as we practice it.
 
I think the DP is a more horrific action for the state to impose. I think life in prison is a more horrific thing to endure.

You realize your first sentence invalidates your second sentence. If the DP is the most horrific to impose, then by definition a life sentence can't be worse. Are you starting to learn that a liberal mind defeats logic with emotion when tasked with solving problems?
 
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You realize your first sentence invalidates your second sentence. If the DP is the most horrific to impose, then by definition a life sentence can't be worse. Are you starting to learn that a liberal mind defeats logic with emotion when tasked with solving problems?
Disagree. DP is more horrific due to inherent bias by the state. If the state was perfect at delivering justice, it would no longer be the most horrific sentence to hand out. I'm surprised a con would miss that.
 
Disagree. DP is more horrific due to inherent bias by the state. If the state was perfect at delivering justice, it would no longer be the most horrific sentence to hand out. I'm surprised a con would miss that.
I don't know Natural, spending day after day in a tiny cell with no hope of getting out especially if you are actually innocent would be pretty horrific.
 
I don't know Natural, spending day after day in a tiny cell with no hope of getting out especially if you are actually innocent would be pretty horrific.
Yes. But there's still a chance that your conviction could be overturned, or your sentence commuted. Hard to overturn or commute death.
 
I don't know what "believe it GW" means, so I can't respond to this.

If you meant "believe in the DP" then yes, I think jail time is better. That said, I have also repeatedly attacked our corrections systems, our sentencing structure, and other elements within our criminal justice system - a system I worked in for several years and have some familiarity with. So saying jail is better than execution is NOT an endorsement of incarceration as we practice it.

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He was sentenced in federal court to life. There is no parole in the federal system. Under some circumstances a federal lifer can get out after age 72.

The sentence is ridiculous. The federal criminal justice system is outlandish example of facism. There are many nickel and dime street crack-cocaine dealers doing federal life sentences.

People need to quit agonizing over the death penalty for scumbag murders and direct their attention to federal drug sentences that are much more inhuman.

This mush-brain succumbs to lying minds like yours. Both of you in denial that the silk road scumbag is up on murder charges. Yet you want him free sometime in the future. Why are you always in the pocket of the criminal and the parasitic? Seriously, what the hell happened to you as a child? Is your family a bunch of criminals and/or multi-generational parasites?
 
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I'm in favor of the victim's family seeking retribution with parameters set by the state. Example; if Long Island RR murderer, Colin Ferguson, is caught red-handed by many witnesses in a shooting spree, allow the families to decide the punishment. I have no problem dipping his naughty bits in a vat full of grease and tossing him a live toaster. However, it should never be the state seeking punishment. They are typically grandstanders seeking higher office looking to pad their resume as 'tough on crime' and often violating the rights of innocent civilians.

The downside to imposing the DP is that millions of dollars are spent by lawyers in appeals that, if I'm not mistaken, are picked up taxpayers.
 
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