They are both appalling, but you can improve prison conditions, so there's that.
Work camps... No possibility for parole.
Death penalty? Hardly a punishment.
Ummm, that wasn't an option. The question stated "of the two choices.."Work camps... No possibility for parole.
Death penalty? Hardly a punishment.
The things people do to get either sentence is what's appalling not the sentence. Libs... Making victims of perps one at a timeThey are both appalling, but you can improve prison conditions, so there's that.
Do you honestly think those who oppose the death penalty or excessive sentencing are in any way excusing the crimes that earned those penalties? For your own sake, please stop saying such nonsense.The things people do to get either sentence is what's appalling not the sentence. Libs... Making victims of perps one at a time
In the post I responded to you said nothing about the victims just the perps. And then you made the perps the victims of the horrific sentences. I thought my assumption was reasonable based on what you posted. If you want to have a discussion of too harsh sentences that a totally different discussion. As I have said in the past I do have issues with the death sentence but giving some one who has killed one or more people life in prison is no where close to excessive. In the future I would suggest you be more succinct in your postsDo you honestly think those who oppose the death penalty or excessive sentencing are in any way excusing the crimes that earned those penalties? For your own sake, please stop saying such nonsense.
OTOH, thanks for the laugh.
Well, you were wrong. What you thought reasonable was a clear non sequitur.In the post I responded to you said nothing about the victims just the perps. And then you made the perps the victims of the horrific sentences. I thought my assumption was reasonable based on what you posted. If you want to have a discussion of too harsh sentences that a totally different discussion. As I have said in the past I do have issues with the death sentence but giving some one who has killed one or more people life in prison is no where close to excessive. In the future I would suggest you be more succinct in your posts
They are both appalling, but you can improve prison conditions, so there's that.
Ummm, that wasn't an option. The question stated "of the two choices.."
A child molester getting sodomized day after day in prison would be a much better punishment than a "painless" injection and then good night.
For the purpose of the poll, I answered "death penalty."You didn't answer the question. But apparently you don't think either should be applied, ever. Why is that?
If you think the purpose of our JUSTICE system is to administer punishment, then I suppose you have a point. Assuming, of course that the prisoner doesn't enjoy it.A child molester getting sodomized day after day in prison would be a much better punishment than a "painless" injection and then good night.
Well, you were wrong. What you thought reasonable was a clear non sequitur.
Next time, try asking instead of attacking.
For the purpose of the poll, I answered "death penalty."
Which should have been obvious from my answer - if your reading comprehension is as good as you seem to think it is (based on your criticisms of others).
Reason it through with me:
If both are horrific, but only one can be undone, then the one that can't be undone is logically worse. Pretty simple, right?
Put a ball and chain around one leg and give them a sledge hammer and have them break rocks all day or have them clear out a swamp with shackles on.
You have certainly given reading comprehension a brand new meaning.Very good. You made the right choice. I thought you were opposed to the death penalty?
Even if it's general population, the thought of living in a prison 23.5 hours a day, with no possibility of ever being free again, seems far worse than death.
Confused. Horrific in that we do it or horrific to recieve?
Only if it's a female.A child molester getting sodomized day after day in prison would be a much better punishment than a "painless" injection and then good night.
Personally, I'm a death penalty proponent; I don't believe it's used often enough.Basic comprehension. He's not a fan of it.
I think the DP is a more horrific action for the state to impose. I think life in prison is a more horrific thing to endure.Give me your opinion on both
In the past you have said a prison sentence is reasonable for people who do not believe it GW so your definition of reasonable is in questionWell, you were wrong. What you thought reasonable was a clear non sequitur.
Next time, try asking instead of attacking.
So if you got life in solitary you would petition for the death sentence? I doubt if that has ever happened and I don't think anyone in this thread would do that. Anyone on this board who got the death sentence would do exactly the same thing as all the other death sentence criminals - they would appeal it and ask for a reduction to something less severe.
I think the DP is a more horrific action for the state to impose. I think life in prison is a more horrific thing to endure.
I don't know what "believe it GW" means, so I can't respond to this.In the past you have said a prison sentence is reasonable for people who do not believe it GW so your definition of reasonable is in question
I think the DP is a more horrific action for the state to impose. I think life in prison is a more horrific thing to endure.
Disagree. DP is more horrific due to inherent bias by the state. If the state was perfect at delivering justice, it would no longer be the most horrific sentence to hand out. I'm surprised a con would miss that.You realize your first sentence invalidates your second sentence. If the DP is the most horrific to impose, then by definition a life sentence can't be worse. Are you starting to learn that a liberal mind defeats logic with emotion when tasked with solving problems?
I don't know Natural, spending day after day in a tiny cell with no hope of getting out especially if you are actually innocent would be pretty horrific.Disagree. DP is more horrific due to inherent bias by the state. If the state was perfect at delivering justice, it would no longer be the most horrific sentence to hand out. I'm surprised a con would miss that.
Yes. But there's still a chance that your conviction could be overturned, or your sentence commuted. Hard to overturn or commute death.I don't know Natural, spending day after day in a tiny cell with no hope of getting out especially if you are actually innocent would be pretty horrific.
I don't know what "believe it GW" means, so I can't respond to this.
If you meant "believe in the DP" then yes, I think jail time is better. That said, I have also repeatedly attacked our corrections systems, our sentencing structure, and other elements within our criminal justice system - a system I worked in for several years and have some familiarity with. So saying jail is better than execution is NOT an endorsement of incarceration as we practice it.
He was sentenced in federal court to life. There is no parole in the federal system. Under some circumstances a federal lifer can get out after age 72.
The sentence is ridiculous. The federal criminal justice system is outlandish example of facism. There are many nickel and dime street crack-cocaine dealers doing federal life sentences.
People need to quit agonizing over the death penalty for scumbag murders and direct their attention to federal drug sentences that are much more inhuman.