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POLL: Predicting the Iowa-PSU 2019-20 Dual - PART I

What is the outcome of the Jan 31st Dual?

  • Iowa by 10+ pts

    Votes: 7 4.2%
  • Iowa by 5-9 pts

    Votes: 25 15.1%
  • Iowa by 1-4 pts

    Votes: 71 42.8%
  • Iowa by criteria

    Votes: 4 2.4%
  • PSU by criteria

    Votes: 2 1.2%
  • PSU by 1-4 pts

    Votes: 29 17.5%
  • PSU by 5-9 pts

    Votes: 25 15.1%
  • PSU by 10+ pts

    Votes: 9 5.4%
  • Team pts deducted from PSU

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Team pts deducted from Iowa

    Votes: 5 3.0%

  • Total voters
    166
  • Poll closed .
How is hall vs kem not going to be a toss up?

Because he's a Penn St fan.

I think most see this as what it is. Hall is a very elite defensive guy who knows he can win every scramble and he typically does. But his low scoring style leaves the doors open for other elite guys.

Id favor Hall 4-3 but it also wouldn't surprise me if Hall goes 0-2 in duals at Carver Hawkeye in his career. I can see that trivia question now!
 
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I have no problem with 83% on here that disagree with me. It's the 17% (talking directly at you) that bother me. Especially the "hawk fans" that go to Penn States forum kissing their butts (again talking directly to you). Any "hawkeye" fan that predicts a Hall TF over Kemdawg showed his/her true colors or lack of following wrestling more than the post season (suspect both pertain to you).
I'm just impressed hoy did the math right! Good job, buddy! ;)
 
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A lot of depends on what the lineup looks like. Depends a lot on who is at 133-149 for me. But here goes my WAY to early thoughts...
125: Lee tech 5-0 Hawks
133: Desanto wbd 8-0 Hawks
141: Teasdale wbd 11-0 Hawks
149: we lose by dec here weather its Lugo, Murin or Turk. 11-3 Hawks
157: Young wbd 14-3 Hawks
165: Bull wbd until proven otherwise he has Joseph's number 17-3 Hawks
174: Hall wbd for now I want see Kem and how he looks up 2 weights but I could easily change this match result. 17-6 Hawks
184: Rasheed wbmd Cash frustrates me so much and will keep doing so 17-11 Hawks
197: Pivotal match have to win this Cael and now Snyder will have him ready. I still think Warner wins round 1 with a little Carver magic. 20-11
Hwt: Cassar just better right now. Maybe in a year or 2 things would be different but right now Cassar wbd 20-14!

No Teasdale in the lineup and/or a Warner loss it could come down to criteria which Hawks still win or if both happen then we do lose.
 
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Could wrestle 10 times and get 10 different results. 133 could go psu's way, 141 could go psu's way, Iowa could win 149, as crazy as it sounds Iowa could get bonus pts at 157, psu could win 165 nevermind I just dont see that one happening, Kem could win at 174, psu could win 197 and they could get bonus pts at hwt.
Only thing I am 100% on are bonus at 125 for Hawks, 165 win for Hawks, 184 & hwt losses for Iowa. The rest is up for grabs!
 
Good start on the prediction. I think DeSanto can beat Lee, because Lee depends on his motor and comes on late--good luck with that as it pertains to DeSanto:). I agree with Shak possibly getting a major, but I don't see Cassar majoring Cass. I think it will be closer than that and Lee might get the fall at 125. In this dual, I'm sure the coaches will be in his ear that every point counts.
You can make the same argument in favor of Lee over Desanto. Since they both have big motors, it should come down to skill. I think at this point, Lee has a more varied arsenal of attacks so I'd favor him, but Desanto made big gains in the room last year, so he could come back much improved. It will be a war if Desanto is at 141.
 
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I watched Kem his first day back to live wrestling back in JULY. He has not missed a step. I was awed with his speed and execution. I would not underestimate him. He is not a freshman.

My friend, I hope you're right! Kem was a beast prior to the injury bug and deserves a much better college wrestling experience than he's had so far. Hopefully the wrestling gods will smile down on him and he'll bring home all the hardware!!
 
A lot of depends on what the lineup looks like. Depends a lot on who is at 133-149 for me. But here goes my WAY to early thoughts...
125: Lee tech 5-0 Hawks
133: Desanto wbd 8-0 Hawks
141: Teasdale wbd 11-0 Hawks
149: we lose by dec here weather its Lugo, Murin or Turk. 11-3 Hawks
157: Young wbd 14-3 Hawks
165: Bull wbd until proven otherwise he has Joseph's number 17-3 Hawks
174: Hall wbd for now I want see Kem and how he looks up 2 weights but I could easily change this match result. 17-6 Hawks
184: Rasheed wbmd Cash frustrates me so much and will keep doing so 17-11 Hawks
197: Pivotal match have to win this Cael and now Snyder will have him ready. I still think Warner wins round 1 with a little Carver magic. 20-11
Hwt: Cassar just better right now. Maybe in a year or 2 things would be different but right now Cassar wbd 20-14!

No Teasdale in the lineup and/or a Warner loss it could come down to criteria which Hawks still win or if both happen then we do lose.

Cuckoo!!! Love it! Teasdale beating Lee!

Can’t wait till this season gets started. I pray you guys don’t get knocked off by Iowa State before we come to your house end of January!

Look forward to a FUN year of trash talk, debate, opinions and HR cuckoo posts!

Fingers crossed for two healthy teams and let the best team win!

#WE ARE!!
 
Cuckoo!!! Love it! Teasdale beating Lee!

Can’t wait till this season gets started. I pray you guys don’t get knocked off by Iowa State before we come to your house end of January!

Look forward to a FUN year of trash talk, debate, opinions and HR cuckoo posts!

Fingers crossed for two healthy teams and let the best team win!

#WE ARE!!
Gonna be sweet kicking your ass this year in Carver and Up North you silly cookoo birdie! Go lick yourself on BWI!
 
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Cuckoo!!! Love it! Teasdale beating Lee!

Can’t wait till this season gets started. I pray you guys don’t get knocked off by Iowa State before we come to your house end of January!

Look forward to a FUN year of trash talk, debate, opinions and HR cuckoo posts!

Fingers crossed for two healthy teams and let the best team win!

#WE ARE!!
Out of all of that, you took exception to Teasdale beating Lee? I don’t see Gavin at 141 but if he was big enough, I don’t see why he couldn’t win. I wouldn’t favor him in that matchup necessarily just like I probably don’t favor desanto or Murin against him. I would’ve thought you’d have something to say about the 20-14 score or the prediction of only one bonus win (a major at that) by penn state. I’m semi-realistic and will say it’s going to be tough for Iowa to win. We are going to have to have top notch performances from every weight and win one or two we’re not supposed to in order to take the dual. And, unfortunately, psu will bonus in a match or two and it probably wont be just a major. “That’s what we do”. Corny lines but they do show up to wrestle. It’s going to be a great lineup of stars battling for sure. And for the record, nick lee is known to have a hiccup here and there. He’s a tough SOB but he’s nowhere near your typical psu elite. I’d compare him to shak and rby, not cenzo, hall or cassar. I just decided that I’m going to this dual. Hope to see you there for some banter and belligerence.
 
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Out of all of that, you took exception to Teasdale beating Lee?

Just teasing a little and just excited to be back to college wrestling.

You guys have a good squad this year and look forward to the season. I’ve always been a Gavin fan and if his heads on straight you guys got a good one.

if Iowa fans are NOT picking Iowa to win in a year where you have your best team in 10 yrs, Id be worried.

All in fun! Can’t wait to see some bnicols 150 point threads, Grip predictions, HR laced meltdowns, MSUs manipulation of anything threads, Chiefs level headed stuff, San Souci fistfight threads, etc.

With Iowa now in great position for 2nd, we get the 2 most vocal online fan bases at each other’s throats all year! To be honest as good as tOSU has been in past 5 yrs or so, it’s been boring as a PSU fan because they don’t have a passionate online fan base. With Iowa as the probable #2? Finally! Some crazy message board stuff to look forward to!
 
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Just teasing a little and just excited to be back to college wrestling.

You guys have a good squad this year and look forward to the season. I’ve always been a Gavin fan and if his heads on straight you guys got a good one.

if Iowa fans are NOT picking Iowa to win in a year where you have your best team in 10 yrs, Id be worried.

All in fun! Can’t wait to see some bnicols 150 point threads, Grip predictions, HR laced meltdowns, MSUs manipulation of anything threads, Chiefs level headed stuff, San Souci fistfight threads, etc.

With Iowa now in great position for 2nd, we get the 2 most vocal online fan bases at each other’s throats all year! To be honest as good as tOSU has been in past 5 yrs or so, it’s been boring as a PSU fan because they don’t have a passionate online fan base. With Iowa as the probable #2? Finally! Some crazy message board stuff to look forward to!
I’m glad we can agree psu will finish 2nd this year...it’s going to be a Fu...cool ride.
 
Lets put some $$$ on it, sig bet too?
Pish69?

Without a doubt! Let’s wait till it’s closer though. Who knows with injuries...I want two HEALTHY teams!

I vote Chief as treasurer for the season. He’s the only one I’d trust on this crazy board.

In perfect world, Chief sets up PayPal account and all bets have to be deposited to him prior to match. He pays out the winner.

if both teams healthy, I’ll be willing to take $500 (total) worth of action from 1 or multiple people here
 
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Many seem to be sleeping on the HAWKS! Many "fans" seem to want to keep saying they can't "see the light."

DeSanto isn't good enough to win it? Murin isn't good enough to reach the podium, Bull can't break through, Kemerer can't come back, Ca$h, Warner Big Cass etc....

Seems to me that this team should be the favorite to win it and anything less would be a fail.

They have a STUD or even 2 at every weight class!
 
How much time did Teasdale spend in the practice room last year? Was he going against RBY (or lee, or Teske) regularly, or was he away from the team? I know they matched up a few times in HS, but curious what their battles looked like since
 
Just teasing a little and just excited to be back to college wrestling.

You guys have a good squad this year and look forward to the season. I’ve always been a Gavin fan and if his heads on straight you guys got a good one.

if Iowa fans are NOT picking Iowa to win in a year where you have your best team in 10 yrs, Id be worried.

All in fun! Can’t wait to see some bnicols 150 point threads, Grip predictions, HR laced meltdowns, MSUs manipulation of anything threads, Chiefs level headed stuff, San Souci fistfight threads, etc.

With Iowa now in great position for 2nd, we get the 2 most vocal online fan bases at each other’s throats all year! To be honest as good as tOSU has been in past 5 yrs or so, it’s been boring as a PSU fan because they don’t have a passionate online fan base. With Iowa as the probable #2? Finally! Some crazy message board stuff to look forward to!
Lol I like it. Speak the truth and all the threats come rolling in. Truth hurts
 
a loser who has nothing to do but worry about what iowa fans are saying. they can't stand it that no matter how much they win they will never be what we are.
 
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Because Kem hasn't done shit to prove he's there yet. He hasn't even made an NCAA finals and has been hurt a year and moving up two weights and you all have him beating hall. Hmmmmmmm. Knowledgeable fans huh

I would make the argument he is 60-6 lifetime with 4 of those losses coming to a stud named Nolf, a more talented wrestler than Hall in my opinion. He did all of this while pulling significant weight and wrestling injured. A healthy well fed Kem will prove "he is there" this year
 
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