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My question is this before I make a final judgment...does said person have enough money for their beer and smokes?
You don't need Food Stamps so you don't starve, you need food. I know a couple places in my town of less than 10k where the unfortunate can go to get food.
The minimum wage doesn't need to be raised. You need to show your employer that you are more valuable than minimum wage or go find somewhere else.
If you want to go to college and have no money, start off at a CC that will transfer to a 4 year, get good grades so you get academic scholarships, and work during college. It might take longer working through college but you won't come out with a mountain of debt. Better yet, go to a CC and study a trade. Some trade programs finish in 10 months, have very high placement rates and will give you a very comfortable lifestyle. Not everyone is cut out for a 4 year degree.
Make sure you are going to school for a useful degree. If you go tens of thousands of dollars into debt and come out with an art degree or a history degree, I don't feel bad for you.
Work to make your situation better instead of waiting for the government to fix it for you. It's not going to happen.
PP: I need food stamps so I don't starve.
Con: You're fatter than a tick. You could skip a few meals.
PP: I need a job that pays better than minimum wage.
Con: You can work for the city for up to 80K a year without a college education.
PP: I want a college education though.
Con: There are tons of financial aid and scholarships available. Just remember, if you don't invest in yourself why should anyone else.
PP: Now I'm in debt for my education.
Con: Well it is your education, not mine.
PP: I can't get a great paying job.
Con: You got a degree in Sociology, what'd you expect?
Con: You're fatter than a tick. You could skip a few meals.
PP: I need a job that pays better than minimum wage.
Con: You can work for the city for up to 80K a year without a college education.
PP: I want a college education though.
Con: There are tons of financial aid and scholarships available. Just remember, if you don't invest in yourself why should anyone else.
PP: Now I'm in debt for my education.
Con: Well it is your education, not mine.
PP: I can't get a great paying job.
Con: You got a degree in Sociology, what'd you expect?
Food Serving Prot Carb Fat Pts Cals
Menu Category: Sandwiches
Hamburger 3.7 oz 13 33 9 6 260 MORE
Cheeseburger 4.2 oz 15 35 12 7 310 MORE
Double Cheeseburger 6.1 oz 25 37 23 11 460 MORE
Quarter Pounder 6.1 oz 24 40 18 9.5 420 MORE
Quarter Pounder (w/ Cheese) 7 oz 29 43 25 12 510 MORE
Double Quarter Pounder (w/ Cheese) 9.9 oz 47 46 40 17.5 730 MORE
Big Mac 7.8 oz 25 47 30 13.5 560 MORE
Big N' Tasty 8.2 oz 24 41 23 11 470 MORE
Big N' Tasty (w/ Cheese) 8.7 oz 27 43 26 12 520 MORE
Filet-O-Fish 5 oz 14 42 18 9.5 400 MORE
McChicken 5.2 oz 15 41 16 9 370 MORE
Premium Grilled Chicken Classic Sandwich 8 oz 32 52 9 9 420 MORE
Premium Crispy Chicken Classic Sandwich 8.2 oz 27 63 16 11 500 MORE
Premium Grilled Chicken Club Sandwich 9.4 oz 45 54 22 13.5 590 MORE
Premium Crispy Chicken Club Sandwich 9.6 oz 40 64 29 15.5 680 MORE
Premium Grilled Chicken Ranch BLT Sandwich 8.5 oz 39 54 13 10.5 490 MORE
Premium Crispy Chicken Ranch BLT Sandwich 8.6 oz 34 64 20 13 580 MORE
Premium Spicy Chicken Sandwich 8 oz 26 64 17 11.5 510 MORE
Menu Category: French Fries
Small French Fries 2.6 oz 2 30 13 5.5 250 MORE
Medium French Fries 4 oz 4 47 20 8.5 380 MORE
Large French Fries 6 oz 6 70 30 13.5 570 MORE
Ketchup Packet 1 pkg 0 3 0 0.5 10 MORE
Salt Packet 1 pkg 0 0 0 0 0 MORE
Menu Category: Chicken McNuggets/Chicken Selects Premium Breast Strips
Chicken McNuggets 4 piece (2.3 oz) 10 10 10 4.5 170 MORE
Chicken McNuggets 6 piece (3.4 oz) 15 15 15 6.5 250 MORE
Chicken McNuggets 10 piece(5.6 oz) 25 26 24 10.5 420 MORE
Chicken McNuggets 20 piece(11.3 oz) 50 51 49 21 840 MORE
Barbeque Sauce 1 pkg 0 11 0 1 45 MORE
Honey 1 pkg 0 12 0 1 50 MORE
Hot Mustard Sauce 1 pkg 1 9 2 1 50 MORE
Sweet 'N Sour Sauce 1 pkg 0 11 0 1 50 MORE
Chicken Selects Premium Breast Strips 3 piece (4.7 oz) 23 28 20 9.5 380 MORE
Chicken Selects Premium Breast Strips 5 piece (7.8 oz) 39 46 33 15.5 630 MORE
Chicken Selects Premium Breast Strips 10 piece(15.6 oz) 77 92 66 31 1,270 MORE
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Menu Category: Sandwiches
Hamburger 3.7 oz 13 33 9 6 260 MORE
Cheeseburger 4.2 oz 15 35 12 7 310 MORE
Double Cheeseburger 6.1 oz 25 37 23 11 460 MORE
Quarter Pounder 6.1 oz 24 40 18 9.5 420 MORE
Quarter Pounder (w/ Cheese) 7 oz 29 43 25 12 510 MORE
Double Quarter Pounder (w/ Cheese) 9.9 oz 47 46 40 17.5 730 MORE
Big Mac 7.8 oz 25 47 30 13.5 560 MORE
Big N' Tasty 8.2 oz 24 41 23 11 470 MORE
Big N' Tasty (w/ Cheese) 8.7 oz 27 43 26 12 520 MORE
Filet-O-Fish 5 oz 14 42 18 9.5 400 MORE
McChicken 5.2 oz 15 41 16 9 370 MORE
Premium Grilled Chicken Classic Sandwich 8 oz 32 52 9 9 420 MORE
Premium Crispy Chicken Classic Sandwich 8.2 oz 27 63 16 11 500 MORE
Premium Grilled Chicken Club Sandwich 9.4 oz 45 54 22 13.5 590 MORE
Premium Crispy Chicken Club Sandwich 9.6 oz 40 64 29 15.5 680 MORE
Premium Grilled Chicken Ranch BLT Sandwich 8.5 oz 39 54 13 10.5 490 MORE
Premium Crispy Chicken Ranch BLT Sandwich 8.6 oz 34 64 20 13 580 MORE
Premium Spicy Chicken Sandwich 8 oz 26 64 17 11.5 510 MORE
Menu Category: French Fries
Small French Fries 2.6 oz 2 30 13 5.5 250 MORE
Medium French Fries 4 oz 4 47 20 8.5 380 MORE
Large French Fries 6 oz 6 70 30 13.5 570 MORE
Ketchup Packet 1 pkg 0 3 0 0.5 10 MORE
Salt Packet 1 pkg 0 0 0 0 0 MORE
Menu Category: Chicken McNuggets/Chicken Selects Premium Breast Strips
Chicken McNuggets 4 piece (2.3 oz) 10 10 10 4.5 170 MORE
Chicken McNuggets 6 piece (3.4 oz) 15 15 15 6.5 250 MORE
Chicken McNuggets 10 piece(5.6 oz) 25 26 24 10.5 420 MORE
Chicken McNuggets 20 piece(11.3 oz) 50 51 49 21 840 MORE
Barbeque Sauce 1 pkg 0 11 0 1 45 MORE
Honey 1 pkg 0 12 0 1 50 MORE
Hot Mustard Sauce 1 pkg 1 9 2 1 50 MORE
Sweet 'N Sour Sauce 1 pkg 0 11 0 1 50 MORE
Chicken Selects Premium Breast Strips 3 piece (4.7 oz) 23 28 20 9.5 380 MORE
Chicken Selects Premium Breast Strips 5 piece (7.8 oz) 39 46 33 15.5 630 MORE
Chicken Selects Premium Breast Strips 10 piece(15.6 oz) 77 92 66 31 1,270 MORE
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Funny.... My family qualified for food stamps, but we were too proud to take them. Instead, we ate cheap. My mother could stretch a single chicken into several meals for our family of 5.
I had to work all the way through college, usually with 2 jobs and still graduated with honors.
I did not get any of the jobs I wanted, after graduation, but I got a job. It sufficed for a while, then I joined the Navy. After the navy I managed to make my way and live out all of my dreams. Nothing was ever handed to me, it was earned. Now, I have the career that I always wanted, the dream home, vacations, cars, and more.
Now, I am supposed to sacrifice all that I worked my entire life for so that we can give to those who don't want to earn it?
The American Dream is alive and well, but it is earned. It is the Right to life, liberty, and the PURSUIT of happiness. Go and pursue it!
I had to work all the way through college, usually with 2 jobs and still graduated with honors.
I did not get any of the jobs I wanted, after graduation, but I got a job. It sufficed for a while, then I joined the Navy. After the navy I managed to make my way and live out all of my dreams. Nothing was ever handed to me, it was earned. Now, I have the career that I always wanted, the dream home, vacations, cars, and more.
Now, I am supposed to sacrifice all that I worked my entire life for so that we can give to those who don't want to earn it?
The American Dream is alive and well, but it is earned. It is the Right to life, liberty, and the PURSUIT of happiness. Go and pursue it!
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anon_snp6dc585nnj4
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What's poverty food?
EBT cards can buy fruits, vegetables and lean meats.
The problem with EBT cards is they can also buy chips, sodas and ding dongs.
Gardens are cheap too and you don't need a big yard to grow your own veggies.
So, your saying all poor people are also lazy, and only eat fast food and junk food?
For less than the price of McDonalds, my wife makes awesome meals, and we are not poor. Make an effort.
Sorry, the American dream isn't dead, but the American spirit is endangered.
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anon_snp6dc585nnj4
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Lol biggest lie ever posted on here is this story.
List out a weeks worth of recipes cheaper than the dollar menu at McDonald's.
Hardly supporting your statement unless you're telling me PP are required to eat at McDonalds.
Please tell me what city job pays $80k with just a high school diploma?
I call bullshit on this. A chicken only has 2-3 pounds of meat on it. You're telling me that a couple of pounds of meat can feed a family of 5 for the better part of a week? Methinks you're remembering things through bootstrap colored glasses.
I can easily make three meals for my family of five with a chicken. If needed I could stretch that to 5 or more.
Poor people are poorly educated on nutrition. Poor people think that healthy food is at unattainable prices. Poor people make poor food decisions. Do people who aren't poor eat at McDonald's? I'm not sure because I don't eat there because I have HROT style wealth.
Your ilk often use the acronym PP for planned parenthood.
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No, you can't. Unless you're only using the meat for a small amount of protein and flavoring. In which case, you should be more honest and include all the other food you're throwing in there like pasta, potatoes, ect. Either way, it's just a few ounces of meat per person per meal. Chicken wouldn't even be the main ingredient in any of these dishes.
Yes, I can and do. Of course I have other stuff with the meal. Who eats only meat? That's neither healthy or economical.
3.5 pounds of chicken is just over 15 hundred gram servings which is the recommended amount.
So you're lying when you say that you can feed your family on a single chicken. Way to be dishonest in this thread.
It really isn't that far fetched to think that a single chicken can go that far. It really depends on how it's used. If you fry it up then no it won't go that far; but if you cook it down and make chicken and noodles/dumplings with it, there is a very good possibility you could get 3-4 meals out of it.
I always freeze at least 2 one gallon bags of leftovers and that's with two adults and two teenage boys eating. So yeah it's possible if you consider how it's used and what you add to it. A good batch is about 12 quarts when if you do it right.
An entire chicken only has 1200 calories. A family of 5 probably needs at least 8,000 calories a day. People on here are claiming they can stretch that to five days. That's 40,000 calories total. The chicken would only make up 3% of that family's caloric needs. This is why it's disingenuous to claim that you can stretch a single chicken into a good 20 meals or so.
No, I was just incorrectly assuming I wasn't dealing with an imbecile. Also, see my edit to the post. There are fifteen or more servings in a roaster chicken. I also buy 25 pound bags of rice and flour for 20 and 10 dollars respectively, and that's imported basmati and jasmin rice. That works out to well under a dollar per meal for starches, add a few dollars per meal for veggies and I can easily make three meals for 5 at under $30. That's about what it costs to feed five people once at McDonalds. The idea of healthy food being more expensive than unhealthy is utter BS.
Huey, if you mix chicken with rice, beans, tomatos, etc you have one heck of a meal that a family can eat on for a while. Go check out http://www.choosemyplate.gov/protein-foods. Most people need 5-6 ounces of protein per day! So if you got 3 oz of chicken in that dish you could get 16 servings from that one chicken, or 3 whole meals for a family of 5. And actually since there are also beans in there, you are going to get more protein than Mrs. Obama recommends.
15 or more servings in a roaster chicken? Each bird might yield just 3 pounds of meat. That's only 1 1/2 ounces of meat per person per serving. This is your serving size? 1 1/2 ounces? This is why the math doesn't work for your claim. The chicken only accounts for 3% of the calories in each meal. It's negligible nutritionally. Even the amount of protein per person per meal from the chicken is negligible. We're talking just 6-7 grams.
Just admit it. You wanted to make it sound as good as possible by just mentioning the chicken. Saying you can feed your family on 25 pounds of rice and flour, a whole bunch of vegetables, cheese and milk, and one chicken doesn't have the same ring to it.
Obviously you either didn't read what I posted or you can't comprehend the concept of using the whole chicken to make an actual meal that includes things other an chicken. The chicken is only a component, and to say that disingenuous to make that claim is purely ignorant.
The average bowl is 18 oz, if you make 3 gallons of chicken a noodles (which you can) that is just over 21 bowls of soup. With a family of 5 people that's enough soup for 4 meals. Why is this so hard to understand?
Don't want to admit that the chicken isn't the meal, do you? It's everything else that is the meal.
Why is it so hard to understand the the nutrition the chicken adds is nominal?
Go check out Michelle's MyPlate. Meat isn't supposed to be the main food on your plate. Grains and veggies are the staples while fruit, dairy, and protein (not even specifically meat) are the supplements.
So the idea that you can feed a family several meals from 1 chicken is easily attainable.
That is exactly what Mrs. Obama wants.
Huey I'm not making anything up. I actually do this. It's not rocket science, people have been doing it for thousands of years.
Now for the math. Since you are obviously ignorant on the subject a roaster is the biggest size of chicken commonly found in the supermarket and may weigh up to 5 pounds.
Now if we yield 3.5 pounds of meat, and chicken bones do not weigh much. that's over 1500 grams of meat. The recommended serving size is 100 grams. That's 15 servings whether you like it or not.
What's the FLOTUS have to do with this? She isn't the one throwing out bootstrap nonsense like, "I can feed an my entire family for a week on a single chicken." And no, the chicken doesn't really supplement anything. Especially when you stretch it as far as you guys are claiming. Even the protein it adds per person is a joke, as are your arguments.
No it isn't. There are fifteen servings each containing half a days recommended protein intake.
I can feed my family for an entire year on one bottle of ketchup. I can play Bootstraps, too.
