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No it isn't. There are fifteen servings each containing half a days recommended protein intake.
Even a large bird might only contain 2,000 calories and have 250 grams of protein. Broken down by 25 meals and you only get 10 grams of protein per person. That's not half the daily protein requirement.
 
Even a large bird might only contain 2,000 calories and have 250 grams of protein. Broken down by 25 meals and you only get 10 grams of protein per person. That's not half the daily protein requirement.
There are 15 100g servings in a decent sized roaster. Each 100 gram serving contains 20-30 grams of protein, which is roughly half the daily intake for a normal person. Calories can come from other sources such as grains, potatoes or corn which are cheap.
 
Even a large bird might only contain 2,000 calories and have 250 grams of protein. Broken down by 25 meals and you only get 10 grams of protein per person. That's not half the daily protein requirement.
http://www.choosemyplate.gov/protein-foods
Daily requirement for a full grown man is 6.5 oz per day according to Michelle and her new health guidelines. You are killing your own argurment. Per your math you can get over 40 meals out of that bird.
 
Poverty food is high in calories and low in nutrition.


Keep making excuses.


Water is healthier and cheaper than grape soda. An apple is cheaper than fries. My local produce store sells a bag of apples and a 5 lb bag of potatoes for $2.

The poor in other countries eat healthy and they are even poorer. They eat rice and beans for pennies.
 
Food Serving Prot Carb Fat Pts Cals
Menu Category: Sandwiches
Hamburger 3.7 oz 13 33 9 6 260 MORE
Cheeseburger 4.2 oz 15 35 12 7 310 MORE
Double Cheeseburger 6.1 oz 25 37 23 11 460 MORE
Quarter Pounder 6.1 oz 24 40 18 9.5 420 MORE
Quarter Pounder (w/ Cheese) 7 oz 29 43 25 12 510 MORE
Double Quarter Pounder (w/ Cheese) 9.9 oz 47 46 40 17.5 730 MORE
Big Mac 7.8 oz 25 47 30 13.5 560 MORE
Big N' Tasty 8.2 oz 24 41 23 11 470 MORE
Big N' Tasty (w/ Cheese) 8.7 oz 27 43 26 12 520 MORE
Filet-O-Fish 5 oz 14 42 18 9.5 400 MORE
McChicken 5.2 oz 15 41 16 9 370 MORE
Premium Grilled Chicken Classic Sandwich 8 oz 32 52 9 9 420 MORE
Premium Crispy Chicken Classic Sandwich 8.2 oz 27 63 16 11 500 MORE
Premium Grilled Chicken Club Sandwich 9.4 oz 45 54 22 13.5 590 MORE
Premium Crispy Chicken Club Sandwich 9.6 oz 40 64 29 15.5 680 MORE
Premium Grilled Chicken Ranch BLT Sandwich 8.5 oz 39 54 13 10.5 490 MORE
Premium Crispy Chicken Ranch BLT Sandwich 8.6 oz 34 64 20 13 580 MORE
Premium Spicy Chicken Sandwich 8 oz 26 64 17 11.5 510 MORE
Menu Category: French Fries
Small French Fries 2.6 oz 2 30 13 5.5 250 MORE
Medium French Fries 4 oz 4 47 20 8.5 380 MORE
Large French Fries 6 oz 6 70 30 13.5 570 MORE
Ketchup Packet 1 pkg 0 3 0 0.5 10 MORE
Salt Packet 1 pkg 0 0 0 0 0 MORE
Menu Category: Chicken McNuggets/Chicken Selects Premium Breast Strips
Chicken McNuggets 4 piece (2.3 oz) 10 10 10 4.5 170 MORE
Chicken McNuggets 6 piece (3.4 oz) 15 15 15 6.5 250 MORE
Chicken McNuggets 10 piece(5.6 oz) 25 26 24 10.5 420 MORE
Chicken McNuggets 20 piece(11.3 oz) 50 51 49 21 840 MORE
Barbeque Sauce 1 pkg 0 11 0 1 45 MORE
Honey 1 pkg 0 12 0 1 50 MORE
Hot Mustard Sauce 1 pkg 1 9 2 1 50 MORE
Sweet 'N Sour Sauce 1 pkg 0 11 0 1 50 MORE
Chicken Selects Premium Breast Strips 3 piece (4.7 oz) 23 28 20 9.5 380 MORE
Chicken Selects Premium Breast Strips 5 piece (7.8 oz) 39 46 33 15.5 630 MORE
Chicken Selects Premium Breast Strips 10 piece(15.6 oz) 77 92 66 31 1,270 MORE
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I guess water, rice, beans, potatoes, apples, oranges, are not available in the USA. They are all cheaper than fries, burgers and soda.


PS> Poor Asians in the US eat healthy and poor blacks eat unhealthy. They are both in the same country and both have access to the same food.
 
Keep making excuses.


Water is healthier and cheaper than grape soda. An apple is cheaper than fries. My local produce store sells a bag of apples and a 5 lb bag of potatoes for $2.

The poor in other countries eat healthy and they are even poorer. They eat rice and beans for pennies.

You conservatives always use poor or fascist countries as positive examples.
 
Keep making excuses.


Water is healthier and cheaper than grape soda. An apple is cheaper than fries. My local produce store sells a bag of apples and a 5 lb bag of potatoes for $2.

The poor in other countries eat healthy and they are even poorer. They eat rice and beans for pennies.
Most people in poverty are probably lazy (or they wouldn't be so impoverished) and cooking in general is probably too much work. It's much easier to down that bag of Doritos and wash it down with a Mountain Dew.
 
Most people in poverty are probably lazy (or they wouldn't be so impoverished) and cooking in general is probably too much work. It's much easier to down that bag of Doritos and wash it down with a Mountain Dew.


True. THey are basically just too lazy to eat healthy. Water, beans, rice is cheaper than soda and burgers. They have access to water, beans and rice but they are too lazy to cook. The kicker is fast food chains would sell red beans and rice of the blacks would buy it but the blacks are too stupid to eat healthy.
 
You still sticking with the myth of healthy food being more expensive than unhealthy food?

How me? Citation need for my previous defense of this. I did say this in the thread though "Poor people think that healthy food is at unattainable prices."

I am sure you know poor people. On average I can not say they eat in a nutritious manner. They would have to snap their poverty culture to start eating better.
 
Most people in poverty are probably lazy (or they wouldn't be so impoverished) and cooking in general is probably too much work. It's much easier to down that bag of Doritos and wash it down with a Mountain Dew.
It's just as easy and cheaper to eat a bag of carrots and wash it down with water. Bagged salad is only about 3-4 bucks and a can of chicken or tuna only a couple more. Rice cakes are about the same price as a bag of chips.

Sorry, but not cooking isn't an excuse either. It is a choice and there is no valid excuse other than lack of willpower. It's nearly impossible to be so ignorant as to not know that McDonald's is worse for you then fresh fruits and veggies with reasonable meat intake.
 
1 piece of fried chicken is cheaper than a whole bucket.

I love how the "starving" poor people are all 300 lbs.
 
How me? Citation need for my previous defense of this. I did say this in the thread though "Poor people think that healthy food is at unattainable prices."

I am sure you know poor people. On average I can not say they eat in a nutritious manner. They would have to snap their poverty culture to start eating better.
I was going off this:

Poverty food is high in calories and low in nutrition.

Fair enough now that you've clarified. I really don't see a valid excuse though. Many of us have grown up eating fatty comfort food and have changed to more healthy eating. You can't really avoid hearing about healthy foods and eating habits. And it is simply untrue to claim that healthy foods are not affordable or convenient. They are; now more than ever.
 
This thread is ignoring the "food desert" problem. Poor people don't have grocery stores nearby, either because they live in isolated rural areas, or they live in horrible ghettos.

Grocery stores need lots of customers, and they don't want to get burned down if a police officer shoots an unarmed black kid.
 
You don't need Food Stamps so you don't starve, you need food. I know a couple places in my town of less than 10k where the unfortunate can go to get food.

The minimum wage doesn't need to be raised. You need to show your employer that you are more valuable than minimum wage or go find somewhere else.

If you want to go to college and have no money, start off at a CC that will transfer to a 4 year, get good grades so you get academic scholarships, and work during college. It might take longer working through college but you won't come out with a mountain of debt. Better yet, go to a CC and study a trade. Some trade programs finish in 10 months, have very high placement rates and will give you a very comfortable lifestyle. Not everyone is cut out for a 4 year degree.

Make sure you are going to school for a useful degree. If you go tens of thousands of dollars into debt and come out with an art degree or a history degree, I don't feel bad for you.

Work to make your situation better instead of waiting for the government to fix it for you. It's not going to happen.
Wow, that's assuming a whole lot of natural ability there.
 
I agree. Breaking cultural behavior is tricky though. Not even Michelle Obama could remedy it.


Michelle Obama is an idiot. She talks about obesity being the problem but then contradicts herself wants more free food for the poor.
 
I was going off this:



Fair enough now that you've clarified. I really don't see a valid excuse though. Many of us have grown up eating fatty comfort food and have changed to more healthy eating. You can't really avoid hearing about healthy foods and eating habits. And it is simply untrue to claim that healthy foods are not affordable or convenient. They are; now more than ever.
This might help explain the "why do poor people eat unhealthy food" question:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/linda...d-decisions-make-perfect-sense_b_4326233.html
 
Wow, that's assuming a whole lot of natural ability there.
Not really. I know a bunch of guys that work construction. This bunch is dumber than a box of rocks and they would willingly admit it. They enjoy bar hoping and golfing. They know that it takes a certain level of income to do those things. They work just enough over the course of the year to be able to keep up their lifestyle. You better believe that they have the best golf clubs and sweet golf carts but they live in crappy apartments or the basement of their friends mom's house.
 
It's more or less axiomatic that they make bad decisions. That, after all, is why they are poor. Anyone making good decisions and who is willing to work hard won't end up poor in this country.
You serious? This statement couldn't be more wrong. There are countless traps for people to become poor. Just because you ignore them doesn't make them any less real. Medical bills are a prime example.
 
Sorry, the American dream isn't dead, but the American spirit is endangered.
This is what scares me about Bernie Sanders vision. What's scarier is that based on results in Iowa/NH, 25-30% of Americans apparently don't see it and vote for him anyway.
 
It's more or less axiomatic that they make bad decisions. That, after all, is why they are poor. Anyone making good decisions and who is willing to work hard won't end up poor in this country.
You have obviously not spent time with people in poverty trying to navigate the obstacles of life.
 
Anything can send you into poverty. Look no further than the last recession. Millions lost their jobs and stayed unemployed long enough to become stigmatized. Is it there fault? No. There weren't enough jobs to be had and the timing crushed them when the jobs came back since they were out of the game so long.

It shows a basic lack of understanding how our economy works to think that you can be successful simply by working hard and making good choices. Millions work hard and make good decisions everyday and yet have nothing to show for it.
 
Anything can send you into poverty. Look no further than the last recession. Millions lost their jobs and stayed unemployed long enough to become stigmatized. Is it there fault? No. There weren't enough jobs to be had and the timing crushed them when the jobs came back since they were out of the game so long.

It shows a basic lack of understanding how our economy works to think that you can be successful simply by working hard and making good choices. Millions work hard and make good decisions everyday and yet have nothing to show for it.

Plenty of people recovered from the recession job losses. What did they do that the other ones didn't?
 
Plenty of people recovered from the recession job losses. What did they do that the other ones didn't?
Got lucky? Were the beneficiaries of the right circumstances and context? Showed up at the right time and the right place? Had the right connections? Didn't get sick? Kids didn't get sick? Car didn't break down?
 
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