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Project 2025, it’s going to happen

I think a lot of project 2025 won't get passed. They would have to get rid of the filibuster and I think they have enough senators to know that they are better off blaming the filibuster for not passing all their plans than getting rid of the filibuster, passing it and facing the rage of everyone outside of their base.

This is just more of "even though he said it, it won't happen". The senators will fall in line with almost zero fight. They'll claim they fought it so they can sleep at night, but they won't stand up for it. I think it's funny that you think they care about people outside their base. Why should they care.
 
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This isn't the first time we've heard these kinds of things. When trump first ran for office he was running on getting rid of Obamacare. I remember interviews with poor people getting free Obamacare and the news person would ask, how can you vote for trump when he's going to take away your healthcare, and the answer given was, trump wouldn't do that to me because he's on my side. In that case they were lucky that trump was unsuccessful with getting rid of Obamacare. Why these people feel trump is on their side is really shocking to me. trump is only on the side of trump. These people mean nothing to him.
What I love is Trump defenders saying "well it didn't get repealed did it!?" as if that bolsters their case. It wasn't for lack of trying!

I honestly kind of feel like the Democrats should just abstain from every vote and let Trump and his administration pass every cockamamie idea they have and sit back and watch all hell break loose. Hell, trying to "constrain" and "guardrail" and "obsruct" him only empowered him more because he could use that as "proof" that he was being persectured and treated "very, very poorly."

Let them burn it all down and not win another election for four decades. You broke it, you buy it.
 
What I love is Trump defenders saying "well it didn't get repealed did it!?" as if that bolsters their case. It wasn't for lack of trying!

I honestly kind of feel like the Democrats should just abstain from every vote and let Trump and his administration pass every cockamamie idea they have and sit back and watch all hell break loose. Hell, trying to "constrain" and "guardrail" and "obsruct" him only empowered him more because he could use that as "proof" that he was being persectured and treated "very, very poorly."

Let them burn it all down and not win another election for four decades. You broke it, you buy it.
I am not making any additional political posts!!
 
What I love is Trump defenders saying "well it didn't get repealed did it!?" as if that bolsters their case. It wasn't for lack of trying!

I honestly kind of feel like the Democrats should just abstain from every vote and let Trump and his administration pass every cockamamie idea they have and sit back and watch all hell break loose. Hell, trying to "constrain" and "guardrail" and "obsruct" him only empowered him more because he could use that as "proof" that he was being persectured and treated "very, very poorly."

Let them burn it all down and not win another election for four decades. You broke it, you buy it.

I agree, let it play out. It's stupid for dems to try and play the good guy when many of the people they're trying to protect voted for trump. If the dems stop something, it just ends up with your first statement. The dems don't get credit for stopping it, trump gets credit for not being able to implement it. The dems need to follow the normal process when trying to help people, people either never can be helped or the people have to hit rock bottom and then ask for help.
 
Wow. Just wow. I'll be the first to condemn that if it happens. Of course people who've been naturalized are extremely proud to be Americans, and normal due process won't let them be deported.
To bad your condemnation now will do less than nothing. The time and place to condemn it was on Tuesday in the voting both. Oopsie daisy!
 
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No worries - we will just keep bumping this thread as elements of Project 2025 are rolled out.

Feel free to bump it as well if none of them are. Happy to tell you you were right if it means all that dumb shit is never enacted. Worth admitting being wrong 🤷‍♂️

By the way, weren't you one of the posters that said the repeal of Roe v. Wade would never happen?

As you look at Project 2025 what are you most worried about, what do you think might be implemented and how quickly? Interested in hearing your perspective.
 
No worries - we will just keep bumping this thread as elements of Project 2025 are rolled out.

Feel free to bump it as well if none of them are. Happy to tell you you were right if it means all that dumb shit is never enacted. Worth admitting being wrong 🤷‍♂️

By the way, weren't you one of the posters that said the repeal of Roe v. Wade would never happen?
Hey pussy @KFsdisciple. Are you too scared to answer his question?
 
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Hey pussy @KFsdisciple. Are you too scared to answer his question?
Sorry I was driving home from work, you know that place adults have to go everyday to earn a paycheck because we can’t all be welfare recipients like yourself.

And no, I wasn’t one of the people who said it would never happen, but I’m glad it did, it returned the power back to the people to decide not 9 non elected judges… but your side likes non elected people that’s how you gave us Harris to beat.

Why don’t you sit down before you hurt yourself.
 
Sorry I was driving home from work, you know that place adults have to go everyday to earn a paycheck because we can’t all be welfare recipients like yourself.

And no, I wasn’t one of the people who said it would never happen, but I’m glad it did, it returned the power back to the people to decide not 9 non elected judges… but your side likes non elected people that’s how you gave us Harris to beat.
Lol at “my side”. Also cool diss on the welfare! Too bad it should be used for someone like @IAFB2021Champs, who is surely on “your side.” Not sure who’s further right between you two, but at least 2021 watches sports unlike your bitch ass.
 
Yeah I assumed you would not have a clever comeback. Pray to your little god that she’ll give you a brain. Though it’s probably too late. Judging by your posts you’re a 73 year old who wishes it was 1862 again.
You’re the guy who gives wrong change at McDonalds obviously… nice math skills buddy
 
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I agree, let it play out. It's stupid for dems to try and play the good guy when many of the people they're trying to protect voted for trump. If the dems stop something, it just ends up with your first statement. The dems don't get credit for stopping it, trump gets credit for not being able to implement it. The dems need to follow the normal process when trying to help people, people either never can be helped or the people have to hit rock bottom and then ask for help.
All last summer, GOP reps who voted against the Biden infrastructure bill gleefully showed up at groundbreakings, ribbon cuttings and other celebrations marking the influx of new projects they did not support.

They are completely shameless.

 
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As you look at Project 2025 what are you most worried about, what do you think might be implemented and how quickly? Interested in hearing your perspective.
Just read about this one that I didn't even know was in the document. I would expect action on it fairly soon:

Project 2025 seeks to redefine abortion so that it is no longer recognized as healthcare, and would ban the CDC from advocating for it. Denying abortion as healthcare is dangerous and naive. In many cases, abortion is necessary, especially when it threatens a woman’s health or life. In states where abortions have been banned or heavily restricted, increasing numbers of women are sharing stories of being denied the care they needed, resulting in serious health risks. Tragically, in some cases, the lack of timely care has even resulted in preventable deaths.

The authors of Project 2025 propose a dangerous overreach by the government through the Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) by aiming to collect invasive data on women who have abortions, or have suffered a miscarriage. Their plan will coerce states into reporting detailed information on women seeking abortions – including gestational age, reasons for the procedure, and the patient’s residency – by threatening to cut federal funding.

They aim to rescind the Biden administration’s guidance under EMTALA, a crucial emergency medical law that ensures hospitals provide abortion care in life-threatening situations. Additionally, they propose dismantling the Reproductive Healthcare Access Task Force and replacing it with an anti-abortion task force, further restricting access to critical reproductive healthcare. This invasive approach risks criminalizing both patients and providers, threatening the health, privacy, and rights of wo
men nationwide.

 
Just read about this one that I didn't even know was in the document. I would expect action on it fairly soon:

Project 2025 seeks to redefine abortion so that it is no longer recognized as healthcare, and would ban the CDC from advocating for it. Denying abortion as healthcare is dangerous and naive. In many cases, abortion is necessary, especially when it threatens a woman’s health or life. In states where abortions have been banned or heavily restricted, increasing numbers of women are sharing stories of being denied the care they needed, resulting in serious health risks. Tragically, in some cases, the lack of timely care has even resulted in preventable deaths.

The authors of Project 2025 propose a dangerous overreach by the government through the Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) by aiming to collect invasive data on women who have abortions, or have suffered a miscarriage. Their plan will coerce states into reporting detailed information on women seeking abortions – including gestational age, reasons for the procedure, and the patient’s residency – by threatening to cut federal funding.

They aim to rescind the Biden administration’s guidance under EMTALA, a crucial emergency medical law that ensures hospitals provide abortion care in life-threatening situations. Additionally, they propose dismantling the Reproductive Healthcare Access Task Force and replacing it with an anti-abortion task force, further restricting access to critical reproductive healthcare. This invasive approach risks criminalizing both patients and providers, threatening the health, privacy, and rights of wo
men nationwide.

So you’re sourcing something other than the actual document? Why is that? If you find that in project 2025, and if it happens to come to fruition, I will admit Ive been wrong about everything.
 
I am unfamiliar with this, but saw a local parent say that was covered under the IDEA Act, which was law before the DOE was even formed?

The IDEA Act didn’t predate the DOE. It was built on DOE administration and funding.

The requirements are only applicable to states that receive DOE funding. You’d have to completely rewrite the law to get it to work in the absence of the DOE. You’d also need to set up an administrative body, funding, and distribution.
 
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So you’re sourcing something other than the actual document? Why is that? If you find that in project 2025, and if it happens to come to fruition, I will admit Ive been wrong about everything.
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Abolishing the Gender Policy Council would eliminate central promotion of abortion (“health services”); comprehensive sexuality education (“education”); and the new woke gender ideology, which has as a principal tenet “gender affirming care” and “sex-change” surgeries on minors. the Gender Policy Council would eliminate central promotion of abortion (“health services”); comprehensive sexuality education (“education”); and the new woke gender ideology, which has as a principal tenet “gender affirming care” and “sex-change” surgeries on minors. In addition to elim- inating the council, developing new structures and positions will have the dual effect of demonstrating that promoting life and strengthening the family is a pri- ority while also facilitating more seamless coordination and consistency across the U.S. government. Specifically, the President should appoint a position/point of contact with the rank of Special Assistant to the President or higher to coordinate and lead the Pres- ident’s domestic priorities on issues related to life and family in cooperation with the Domestic Policy Council. This position would be responsible for facilitating meetings, discussions, and agreements among personnel; coordinating Adminis- tration policy; and ensuring agency support for implementation of policies related to the promotion of life and familyin the United States.

Feel free to use Control F to find even more - I stopped after about 50 because I was getting sick to my stomach:
 
Lol at “my side”. Also cool diss on the welfare! Too bad it should be used for someone like @IAFB2021Champs, who is surely on “your side.” Not sure who’s further right between you two, but at least 2021 watches sports unlike your bitch ass.
What’s your problem? Someone else on here owning you as well? Good to see you like me more though because I enjoy sports. Even if you say I don’t know anything about them. Have a great night. Same place tomorrow?
 
Just read about this one that I didn't even know was in the document. I would expect action on it fairly soon:

Project 2025 seeks to redefine abortion so that it is no longer recognized as healthcare, and would ban the CDC from advocating for it. Denying abortion as healthcare is dangerous and naive. In many cases, abortion is necessary, especially when it threatens a woman’s health or life. In states where abortions have been banned or heavily restricted, increasing numbers of women are sharing stories of being denied the care they needed, resulting in serious health risks. Tragically, in some cases, the lack of timely care has even resulted in preventable deaths.

The authors of Project 2025 propose a dangerous overreach by the government through the Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) by aiming to collect invasive data on women who have abortions, or have suffered a miscarriage. Their plan will coerce states into reporting detailed information on women seeking abortions – including gestational age, reasons for the procedure, and the patient’s residency – by threatening to cut federal funding.

They aim to rescind the Biden administration’s guidance under EMTALA, a crucial emergency medical law that ensures hospitals provide abortion care in life-threatening situations. Additionally, they propose dismantling the Reproductive Healthcare Access Task Force and replacing it with an anti-abortion task force, further restricting access to critical reproductive healthcare. This invasive approach risks criminalizing both patients and providers, threatening the health, privacy, and rights of wo
men nationwide.


Thank you for sharing Torbee. Always appreciate your perspective.

I would hope that nothing close to this would ever be implemented, but the world can be a funny place.
 
Reading Twitter it seems people of color may be in for a rough ride. The racists are emboldened and a large part of the remaining people hope they get what’s coming to them for being a large contributor to the situation. Good times
 
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Reading Twitter it seems people of color may be in for a rough ride. The racists are emboldened and a large part of the remaining people hope they get what’s coming to them for being a large contributor to the situation. Good times
If twitter says it...
 
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The IDEA Act didn’t predate the DOE. It was built on DOE administration and funding.

The requirements are only applicable to states that receive DOE funding. You’d have to completely rewrite the law to get it to work in the absence of the DOE. You’d also need to set up an administrative body, funding, and distribution.
It was called something else before, in 1970 or whatever. Semantics I guess, meaning this act is independently protecting these children with disabilities, and would not go away if DOE was dismantled, but would be administered under some other branch? More or less efficiently, who the hell knows. All I was trying to ask was if the IDEA ACT is sort of like a seperat thing from DOE , in that IF DOE is scrapped, its not as though disabled children are suddenly not protected?

*Asking for my educational purposes only, not being argumentative. My own googling is a lot of anti Trump stuff, and I'm too lazy to sift around to find my answers.
 
So you’re sourcing something other than the actual document? Why is that? If you find that in project 2025, and if it happens to come to fruition, I will admit Ive been wrong about everything.
Respect for Life and Conscience. The CDC should eliminate programs and
projects that do not respect human life and conscience rights and that undermine family formation. It should ensure that it is not promoting abortion as health care

Bottom of page 454-top of 455.

Because liberal states have now become sanctuaries for abortion tourism, HHS
should use every available tool, including the cutting of funds, to ensure that every
state reports exactly how many abortions take place within its borders, at what
gestational age of the child, for what reason, the mother’s state of residence, and
by what method.

Page 455

I will admit I never read Project 2025, just heard about how awful it is. Just after reading enough to find these excerpts. It's as bad or worse than I thought.
 
It was called something else before, in 1970 or whatever. Semantics I guess, meaning this act is independently protecting these children with disabilities, and would not go away if DOE was dismantled, but would be administered under some other branch? More or less efficiently, who the hell knows. All I was trying to ask was if the IDEA ACT is sort of like a seperat thing from DOE , in that IF DOE is scrapped, its not as though disabled children are suddenly not protected?
I believe the IDEA is a federal law administered by the DOE. The DOE basically oversees the implementation of the law.
 
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Reading Twitter it seems people of color may be in for a rough ride. The racists are emboldened and a large part of the remaining people hope they get what’s coming to them for being a large contributor to the situation. Good times

You can't help people who won't help themselves.
 
It was called something else before, in 1970 or whatever. Semantics I guess, meaning this act is independently protecting these children with disabilities, and would not go away if DOE was dismantled, but would be administered under some other branch? More or less efficiently, who the hell knows. All I was trying to ask was if the IDEA ACT is sort of like a seperat thing from DOE , in that IF DOE is scrapped, its not as though disabled children are suddenly not protected?
IDEA replaced the EAHCA. There is no backup.

If the DOE disappeared tomorrow, so would the IDEA Act. Congress would need to pass a new bill with new funding, administration, and enforcement. There’s also a ton of common law in the interpretation of IDEA that would require re-litigation.
 
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