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Promote B Ferentz to OC?

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Would that be insane? Maybe not this year. He seems to be doing a great job as "run coordinator". Itd be refreshing to have new energy at that position for a change. You could argue that he could use some experience in a different organization but I'd hate to lose him.
 
Play calling has been pretty good. A lot of new stuff is refreshing. Screen plays have been very effective. Helps when the players execute like they are this year.
 
He's starting to get rumored for other positions. Like the Texans OL coach last year. If I had to guess he will get a lot more attention and attractive offers after this year. So not messing with the "magic" might not be an option if he gets pulled away.
 
I think Davis will ride out on a positive note after we win a school record 12+ games this year or possibly one more year. Brian will take over as OC and we bring in David Raih as QB coach. In 2020 KF retires after winning 3 BigTen titles in 4 years and 1 National Championship. Brian becomes head coach and David Raih becomes OC and we go on an unprecedented 25 year streak and then IDK what will happen because I will be dead :)
 
I think Davis will ride out on a positive note after we win a school record 12+ games this year or possibly one more year. Brian will take over as OC and we bring in David Raih as QB coach. In 2020 KF retires after winning 3 BigTen titles in 4 years and 1 National Championship. Brian becomes head coach and David Raih becomes OC and we go on an unprecedented 25 year streak and then IDK what will happen because I will be dead :)

I will sign off on your scenario right now. DONE!!!!
 
I don't think Brian ever goes anywhere, until a situation like the Penn state coach that went to tOSU happens
 
Shouldn't the OL coach teach his guys how to protect the quarterback before getting another promotion? Our pass protection is in the bottom half of the conference. Let's not forget, we have a running backs coach who was national coach of the week and some talented backs that may have something to do with our running back success.
 
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It's always amazed me how good the playing calling gets when you have a QB who can make plays and improvise, plus you aren't playing a slow starting fullback as your #1 tailback. just saying.
 
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How many read the interview Blair had with Davis? He seemed to be as deep into the O-line as Brian. Knew the players, the rotation, and what they were looking for. Goes from that to working with QBs, helping out with WR and RBs and planning Xs-Os. Brian is definitely a player and not trying to cut him off at the knees.....but doesn't have near the back round Davis has. The guy earned a ring in Texas and he now has his type of players and it's showing, and the whole staff and players are into it. Jmo...
 
GD proved that with the right players, his play-calling worked. So far this season, it is doing just that! I would not necessarily be against Brian becoming OC, but I don't want to spoil what we currently have. It is working so why mess with it?
 
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How does Weisman stack up to Tony Gerhart speed wise
Weisman is about the same speed as Tony Gerhart, who is a bus driver somewhere in Wisconsin I presume.;)

Toby Gerhart ran a 4.42 second 40. He also was a 3 year starter in center field for Stanford's baseball team, and would have presumably been a high draft choice for Major League Baseball had he chosen to go that route.

Weisman ran a 4.62 second 40 at Iowa's Pro Day. Gerhart a 4.5 at the NFL combine.
 
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Shouldn't the OL coach teach his guys how to protect the quarterback before getting another promotion? Our pass protection is in the bottom half of the conference. Let's not forget, we have a running backs coach who was national coach of the week and some talented backs that may have something to do with our running back success.
Run game coordinator?
 
I think Davis will ride out on a positive note after we win a school record 12+ games this year or possibly one more year. Brian will take over as OC and we bring in David Raih as QB coach. In 2020 KF retires after winning 3 BigTen titles in 4 years and 1 National Championship. Brian becomes head coach and David Raih becomes OC and we go on an unprecedented 25 year streak and then IDK what will happen because I will be dead :)
Oh, the power of positive thinking! And I'm not referring to the part about you being dead. LOL
 
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BF is going to get a Group of 5 Head Coaching job at the end of the year when their coach is poached by one of the P5, (maybe Illinois St. or a top 1-AA program). We'll hire him back as our HC after 2-3 years to succeed KF.

I do believe BF is destined for a head job, and it's time for him to start moving in that direction.
 
I think Davis will ride out on a positive note after we win a school record 12+ games this year or possibly one more year. Brian will take over as OC and we bring in David Raih as QB coach. In 2020 KF retires after winning 3 BigTen titles in 4 years and 1 National Championship. Brian becomes head coach and David Raih becomes OC and we go on an unprecedented 25 year streak and then IDK what will happen because I will be dead :)

This works for me (except the part about you being dead, of course).
 
I think Davis will ride out on a positive note after we win a school record 12+ games this year or possibly one more year. Brian will take over as OC and we bring in David Raih as QB coach. In 2020 KF retires after winning 3 BigTen titles in 4 years and 1 National Championship. Brian becomes head coach and David Raih becomes OC and we go on an unprecedented 25 year streak and then IDK what will happen because I will be dead :)
I will be dead too
 
BF is going to get a Group of 5 Head Coaching job at the end of the year when their coach is poached by one of the P5, (maybe Illinois St. or a top 1-AA program). We'll hire him back as our HC after 2-3 years to succeed KF.

I do believe BF is destined for a head job, and it's time for him to start moving in that direction.
I just do not see him, nor do I want him to leave Iowa. He was raised here in the 80's, played HS ball in IC, played college ball at Iowa, and had a good gig at New England in which he was moving up the ladder but choose to come here....I think he is black and gold all the way
 
BF is going to get a Group of 5 Head Coaching job at the end of the year when their coach is poached by one of the P5, (maybe Illinois St. or a top 1-AA program). We'll hire him back as our HC after 2-3 years to succeed KF.

I do believe BF is destined for a head job, and it's time for him to start moving in that direction.

This is probably the correct answer, except I think I it will be next year he leaves. The caveat would be if Bob Stoops wants to make a change from Oklahoma (I have no idea what will happen and if that is likely) he might be welcomed here. BF, though, might be a good choice. Barta always prefers someone with Head Coaching experience, IIRC, so a coordinator would be an unlikely choice.
 
I doubt many people will like to hear this, but the playcalling hasn't been that much different this year. The big difference is that we are executing at a much higher level.

For example, last year Iowa was the worst team I have ever seen at the bubble screen. This is a high percentage pass play that should normally gain about 5 yards. Last year I'd be surprised if we even completed much more than 50% of these "high percentage" passes, and rarely did they gain us positive yards. This year we have been vastly better at executing this simple play as I think we have completed 100% of these passes and they have helped put us in 2nd and short situations which opens up our entire playbook. Having 2nd and 4 versus 2nd and 10 is like being ahead 2-0 or down 0-2 in the count in baseball. What you do early in the series/at-bat sets up future success in said series/at-bat.

Also, our runningbacks left a lot of yards on the field last year. Simply-put, they stunk last year. Weisman was never a game-changer at RB, but he also had a very poor year by his standards. Canzeri was hurt all of last season and has been much better this year (before he was injured). Statistically, our passing game is not much better than last year. It would be interesting to see the statistics on how many passes have been attempted/completed over 20 yards this year compared to last year. I know that as of last week Iowa was leading the Big 10 in offensive plays of over 40 yards, but a lot of that has been due to the running game (of which CJ has had a few big runs too).
 
I doubt many people will like to hear this, but the playcalling hasn't been that much different this year. The big difference is that we are executing at a much higher level.

For example, last year Iowa was the worst team I have ever seen at the bubble screen. This is a high percentage pass play that should normally gain about 5 yards. Last year I'd be surprised if we even completed much more than 50% of these "high percentage" passes, and rarely did they gain us positive yards. This year we have been vastly better at executing this simple play as I think we have completed 100% of these passes and they have helped put us in 2nd and short situations which opens up our entire playbook. Having 2nd and 4 versus 2nd and 10 is like being ahead 2-0 or down 0-2 in the count in baseball. What you do early in the series/at-bat sets up future success in said series/at-bat.

Also, our runningbacks left a lot of yards on the field last year. Simply-put, they stunk last year. Weisman was never a game-changer at RB, but he also had a very poor year by his standards. Canzeri was hurt all of last season and has been much better this year (before he was injured). Statistically, our passing game is not much better than last year. It would be interesting to see the statistics on how many passes have been attempted/completed over 20 yards this year compared to last year. I know that as of last week Iowa was leading the Big 10 in offensive plays of over 40 yards, but a lot of that has been due to the running game (of which CJ has had a few big runs too).
Agree, it is amazing how peoples perception of everything changes with a few point swing in our favor. I mean last year sucked, but everybody acts as though we got blown out every game last year. That was not the case (minus Minnisota and Tennessee). It also amazing me the amount of blame or attention was given to our offense last year when the fact is if we had the special team and defensive play we have this year we would have won at least 9 games last year.
Our RB's were not as productive last year and I agree that Weisman had his limitations, but he was also injured the entire year (had surgery right after season) Daniels and Canzeri were also injured, Wadley was still a liability, Mitchell was at WR, and Parker could not pick up a blitz. This caused us to be limited at the RB position, not allowing us to set up PA, and allowing the defense to play both run and the pass a bit more balanced. I love CJB and he is deserving of much of the credit we are seeing. However, his job is much easier than last year because we have a potent running attack..
 
I just do not see him, nor do I want him to leave Iowa. He was raised here in the 80's, played HS ball in IC, played college ball at Iowa, and had a good gig at New England in which he was moving up the ladder but choose to come here....I think he is black and gold all the way
I agree, but I think he also understands his resume will be stronger for a return here after he leaves for a while, just like in the NE situation you mentioned above. Think how much more buy-in he'll have with Iowa fans if he leaves and gets hired back to Iowa from somewhere else. Should he have to do that to get buy-in from all fans? Maybe not, but it's how things generally work.
 
I agree, but I think he also understands his resume will be stronger for a return here after he leaves for a while, just like in the NE situation you mentioned above. Think how much more buy-in he'll have with Iowa fans if he leaves and gets hired back to Iowa from somewhere else. Should he have to do that to get buy-in from all fans? Maybe not, but it's how things generally work.
I think you put too much stock in what the fans think, how excited were the fans when we hired KF or Fran? Both of those situations seemed to be working out OK. I know I was super excited about the Alford and Lick hire at the time because both were pretty sought after coaches at the time. Long story short fans are stupid and any successful athletic program understands that
 
Shouldn't the OL coach teach his guys how to protect the quarterback before getting another promotion? Our pass protection is in the bottom half of the conference. Let's not forget, we have a running backs coach who was national coach of the week and some talented backs that may have something to do with our running back success.
Although I love our RB's, I think you are giving to much credit to them and not enough to our OL. We have had 3 backs go over 100 and 2 over 200, they are all good but lets not kid ourselves we are not throwing Adrian Petersonn out there, it appears as though we have super good backs but that is only because our OL has been dominating. According to Schobert (Wisconsin OL) our offensive line more physical than Bama's OL, that is a pretty credible source considering he was actually out there playing and also as unbiased of an opinion as you can get. I have a feeling you are not a KF fan, therefore you discredit BF because of that, and because of that you are trying to undervalue the job our OL has done this year.....BF is going to be one hell of a head coach and I just hope it is on our sideline and not elsewhere
 
I think you put too much stock in what the fans think, how excited were the fans when we hired KF or Fran? Both of those situations seemed to be working out OK. I know I was super excited about the Alford and Lick hire at the time because both were pretty sought after coaches at the time. Long story short fans are stupid and any successful athletic program understands that
true, good call.
 
He's starting to get rumored for other positions. Like the Texans OL coach last year. If I had to guess he will get a lot more attention and attractive offers after this year. So not messing with the "magic" might not be an option if he gets pulled away.
He would leaving his dad. In addition, I believe he sees himself as a college head coach. For those reasons I am betting he would not leave, except for maybe an OC position
 
Undefeated so far, top 10, and there are some calling for a different OC. Goodness gracious, we don't even know what a "run coordinator" does, Kirk probs doesn't either.
 
Undefeated so far, top 10, and there are some claiming Kirk Ferentz doesn't know what a run coordinator is.

Always room for improvement.
 
Undefeated so far, top 10, and there are some calling for a different OC. Goodness gracious, we don't even know what a "run coordinator" does, Kirk probs doesn't either.
It is not bc people think Davis is doing a poor job, it has more to do with his age...I mean he is 65+ years old
 
Quite frankly, for the moment I want this staff to stay intact.

Kirk has said on more than one occasion, this year is reaping the benefits of no real changes there.
 
I doubt many people will like to hear this, but the playcalling hasn't been that much different this year. The big difference is that we are executing at a much higher level.

For example, last year Iowa was the worst team I have ever seen at the bubble screen. This is a high percentage pass play that should normally gain about 5 yards. Last year I'd be surprised if we even completed much more than 50% of these "high percentage" passes, and rarely did they gain us positive yards. This year we have been vastly better at executing this simple play as I think we have completed 100% of these passes and they have helped put us in 2nd and short situations which opens up our entire playbook. Having 2nd and 4 versus 2nd and 10 is like being ahead 2-0 or down 0-2 in the count in baseball. What you do early in the series/at-bat sets up future success in said series/at-bat.

Also, our runningbacks left a lot of yards on the field last year. Simply-put, they stunk last year. Weisman was never a game-changer at RB, but he also had a very poor year by his standards. Canzeri was hurt all of last season and has been much better this year (before he was injured). Statistically, our passing game is not much better than last year. It would be interesting to see the statistics on how many passes have been attempted/completed over 20 yards this year compared to last year. I know that as of last week Iowa was leading the Big 10 in offensive plays of over 40 yards, but a lot of that has been due to the running game (of which CJ has had a few big runs too).

Absolutely. Completely agree.

Play calling completely depends on execution - last year the execution sucked, and everyone wanted to blame play calling. We did not open a new playbook this year. It's all the same stuff but now it's working better.

Plus we have guys like CJ and Vandy that can make plays on 3rd down to keep the chains moving. Executing a "simple" 4-5 yard gain on 3rd down can be the difference between winning and losing. The team is making those plays this year - last year they did not.
 
64. But, I find it amazing he is just our third-oldest coach.
That is pretty crazy, Morgan and Reid are older. However, both are position coaches which is much less stressful than being a coordinator, especially the OC. Knowing Morgan he will probably coach until he physically cannot and Reid seems the same way....I by all means am not hoping Davis retires, but it will happen at some point and filling an OC position is much more newsworthy than replacing a position coach. Unless it is Morgan, who IMO is the best position coach in the nation and that has been the case for about 15 years. Morgan was TE coach until mid 2000's (arguably the best our TE's ever were) moved to OL after (continued success of OL) and then moved to DL because the position was in shambles and in a few short years we are now churning out NFL players at the DL....not to mention he has recruited several players who most of us were like WTH are they doing and 4 years later they get drafted....
 
The biggest change from last year is much improved blocking and tackling. CJB is an improvement, but I think even his skills are secondary to blocking and tackling.

Since the OC is the de facto QB coach, I wonder if BF will ever be an OC. He may take a similar career path as Kirk, going from O-Line to head ball coach. The limited number of college assistants would make BF as an OC difficult. Maybe he would be an OC/OL coach with someone else as the QB coach?
 
Undefeated so far, top 10, and there are some calling for a different OC. Goodness gracious, we don't even know what a "run coordinator" does, Kirk probs doesn't either.

I would find it somewhat amazing for KF not to know what a "run coordinator" is, considering he filled that position on Hayden's staff.
 
I don't personally see Brian leaving and coming back. Leaving would be a big risk. What if he bombs at Bowling Green or wherever he ends up? The Hawkeye faithful would not welcome him back.

The more obvious play is succession planning for when Kirk retires. This has been the plan all along IMO.
 
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