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Proposal in Iowa will remove climate change from educational standards.

Regardless of the causes, you don’t believe the climate is changing?

I’m fascinated to hear your educational background and how you’ve come to this conclusion.
Because I have one of my degrees in meteorology and worked in the field for a few years. The data being used today isn't the same as it was 25 years ago, let alone 50-100 years ago. I've had discussions on here before and not one of the so called "experts" on here can even answer basic meteorology questions. What is going on is urban sprawl not CO2 issues. The atmosphere above ground levels isn't' changing at all.
 
Climate changes is about guesses backed by a consensus because they silenced any opposition.

Science does not give you the ability to change the data until it fits the agenda, or to have hundreds of models so that if one of them matches reality then you can claim you are right.
You're the guy that would be pontificating about how the Titanic was not actually sinking right up to the point when the ship snapped in half and came crashing down on top of you.
 
I am not a climate change denier but also a skeptic that it is causing every issue that we are facing. We have heard from respected scientists for decades that we should all be dead by now, in the new ice age, or in the new hot zone. None of it has happened.
We have not heard any of those things from "respected scientists". You have just heard media people with an agenda claim those things and you took them at their word. While there were some random articles and maybe a few studies that would also say those things those papers were resoundingly rejected by the consensus of studies and scientists. While Climate change isn't the reason every single event happens, it is the reason they are happening far more frequently and with increased intensity.
 
We have not heard any of those things from "respected scientists". You have just heard media people with an agenda claim those things and you took them at their word. While there were some random articles and maybe a few studies that would also say those things those papers were resoundingly rejected by the consensus of studies and scientists. While Climate change isn't the reason every single event happens, it is the reason they are happening far more frequently and with increased intensity.
So none of these people mentioned here were respected scientist or publications? Just admit that a lot of the climate change narrative has been fear mongering and poor guesswork by people that we are supposed to believe.

https://www.agweb.com/opinion/doomsday-addiction-celebrating-50-years-failed-climate-predictions
 
Yeah, I get it, you can produce a lot of articles that agree with the concensus. The globalists have silenced all those who oppose the man made climate change theory. But that doesn't mean they are right. Like I said before, have you read the ipcc report? They are not as conclusive in the report as the people who quote the report make it seem.

If this was so conclusive, can you tell me what model will be accurate in 30 years?
GLOBALISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Because I have one of my degrees in meteorology and worked in the field for a few years. The data being used today isn't the same as it was 25 years ago, let alone 50-100 years ago. I've had discussions on here before and not one of the so called "experts" on here can even answer basic meteorology questions. What is going on is urban sprawl not CO2 issues. The atmosphere above ground levels isn't' changing at all.

Based on your posting history, I’m gonna take all this with a large grain of salt.
 
Based on your posting history, I’m gonna take all this with a large grain of salt.
Why, because you don't agree with things I say? Chat me, I'll ask you questions about basic meteorology and I can guarantee you can't answer. But you'll spout things about none of which is true because you saw it or read it from someone who bases everything off funding to keep the lie alive.

Just like people told me how my retirement worked a few months back. They were experts too, but had zero things right about it. They argued with me on they very thing I get money from. I don't know s***t about open heart surgery and would never argues with someone who does know about it. But here we are, the HORT and all the experts on everything.

Like I said, get on the chat with me and I will make how the the weather and it's patterns make sense. How they gathered the information 50-100+ years ago, where they store that handwritten data and how every prediction ever made about climate (whatever they called it) has never came true and in many cases was directly the opposite.
 
Why, because you don't agree with things I say? Chat me, I'll ask you questions about basic meteorology and I can guarantee you can't answer. But you'll spout things about none of which is true because you saw it or read it from someone who bases everything off funding to keep the lie alive.

Just like people told me how my retirement worked a few months back. They were experts too, but had zero things right about it. They argued with me on they very thing I get money from. I don't know s***t about open heart surgery and would never argues with someone who does know about it. But here we are, the HORT and all the experts on everything.

Like I said, get on the chat with me and I will make how the the weather and it's patterns make sense. How they gathered the information 50-100+ years ago, where they store that handwritten data and how every prediction ever made about climate (whatever they called it) has never came true and in many cases was directly the opposite.

This is the type of post that makes Bacon Bacon. Sharky/Ryan is now a climatologist - and I’m sure that’s based on his own research.

Fabulous. 0/10
 
And you are who exactly?
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Let’s just hide science from our kids.
Thought it posted it was getting rid of the term climate change? Nothing about hiding the science classroom or lab.
Personally I don’t get the reasoning for removing the term.
But funny that a dem would comment “hiding science from our kids” when they support boys being girls. That’s science.
 
So none of these people mentioned here were respected scientist or publications? Just admit that a lot of the climate change narrative has been fear mongering and poor guesswork by people that we are supposed to believe.

https://www.agweb.com/opinion/doomsday-addiction-celebrating-50-years-failed-climate-predictions
Well, their work was rejected by the greater scientific community. I guess the term respected depends on how they dealt with that. Again, science is done by consensus, not individuals.
 
More Iowa is becoming a shithole evidence.

And the state wonders why they can’t get/keep an educated workforce. Oh… and way to screw all the farmers, too.
The GQP doesn’t care about keeping educated workers. They don’t care about keeping young people. They don’t want a bunch of queers hanging around Iowa, either. They want ideologically pure drones.
 
ISU is doing groundbreaking work in the effects of climate change in agriculture. This will benefit Iowa’s farmers.
Should the BoR demand ISU stop this research?
No, we can research it. Just need to stop thinking man is responsible for climate change. The climate will continue to change like it has for millions of years.
 
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Because I have one of my degrees in meteorology and worked in the field for a few years. The data being used today isn't the same as it was 25 years ago, let alone 50-100 years ago. I've had discussions on here before and not one of the so called "experts" on here can even answer basic meteorology questions. What is going on is urban sprawl not CO2 issues. The atmosphere above ground levels isn't' changing at all.
lol.
Those aren't even questions. If you had some knowledge on the topic you wouldn't make the statement "the atmosphere above ground levels isn't changing".
 
lol.
Those aren't even questions. If you had some knowledge on the topic you wouldn't make the statement "the atmosphere above ground levels isn't changing".
Check the 850mb and the 700mb levels and tell me what's going on. the 850mb level would be getting closer to surface if it was warming or getting higher if it was cooling. None of the levels shows any change from the past. The inversions from those levels tell whether fronts and troughs are present.
Want me to continue or will you accept that I have a vast knowledge of the atmosphere and read/learned it from science books and applied it on a daily basis. I didn't read or learn it from people who are getting rich off spewing lies by throwing their title around.
 
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I thought the GQP had admitted that climate change is real, but the disagreement was in regards to the causation factors???
I've never seen this. Maybe people have different opinions of whether it's a thing or not. I bet if you follow the money, you'll get the answer to who believes it and who doesn't.
 
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Ok, now you are talking science. I agree with science. What is in the IPCC report is not science, it is a theory. But most people believe man made climate change is a proven fact (its not). I don't have a problem with them trying different models, I have a problem with them claiming it is mainly due to co2, then spending trillions of dollars implementing policies to decrease co2 even though they are not sure how co2 affects everything. That is a recipe for disaster.

Many of the models exclude water vapor and clouds all together because they can't predict it well enough. You can't just exclude stuff because you can't figure it out but still claim you know what the climate will be like in 30 years.

Your a smart person, I know you can see how this doesn't make sense.

There are lots of other cycles and factors at play that are much easier to use to predict the general direction.
What exactly is your theory on water vapor here?

It's transient. You have evaporation -- which increases in warmer temperatures -- which leads to water vapor, which leads to clouds, which function as a greenhouse gas and trap heat.

But clouds release their moisture (precip) or evaporate quickly -- like, in a matter of days. Gases like methane and Co2 do not -- they can stick around decades.

If clouds didn't we would've had a run away greenhouse effect long ago and we'd be boiling right now.

The key is warming the atmosphere (from some other non cloud source) That allows the atmosphere to hold more water vapor, ultimately. (which contributes to warming from water vapor)

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The models probably struggle with clouds because they're a very short lived, transient item.

I really don't care about the IPCC report. Nobody is interested in taking drastic steps to reduce Co2 anyway.

I deal with confidence levels -- there is lots of evidence to support a significant man-made contribution to global warming.
 
I've never seen this. Maybe people have different opinions of whether it's a thing or not. I bet if you follow the money, you'll get the answer to believes it and who doesn't.
I'm basing this on anecdotal evidence. Different interviews and articles over time.

Climate change itself is pretty simple to prove based on historical data, in addition to current day events (a warming ocean, melting of polar ice caps, increase in sea levels, tracked rising temperatures, etc.). The main argument is whether it's caused by man or is it a natural, evolving change.
 
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