Proposal in Iowa will remove climate change from educational standards.

[joelbc1]

This is such backward thinking. It's like you want to screw Americans with more bad policy because big oil lied and was corrupt back in the day.

Will it make things even once you finally figure out how much the green agenda is lying to you?

I would rather we learn from our mistakes with big oil instead of repeating the same mistakes.

Back in the day?? How about in the now and present? What’s past is past. Big oil is still treated with kid gloves by Congress and the IRS. I see nothing wrong with giving alternate energy industries (and it’s customers) the same breaks as we have given fossil fuels.

 

[Bulldogs1974]

Okay, whatever. It sucks that throughout time there are periods of time when conditions were just as bad or worse that what we've seen in the past 50 years. Kinda kills most arguments about climate.

Please tell me your meteorologist training tells you evolution has no evidence either.

 

[Hawk_82]

How is green energy lying? I am curious. MidAmerican doesn't seem to mind it.

They are lying about them being better for the environment, that they will make energy cheaper, that climate change is man made.

It would not seem to be worth all the green energy spending if climate change was not man made and not a serious threat.

 

[Hawk_82]

Back in the day?? How about in the now and present? What’s past is past. Big oil is still treated with kid gloves by Congress and the IRS. I see nothing wrong with giving alternate energy industries (and it’s customers) the same breaks as we have given fossil fuels.

So you just want hand outs for what helps you. I get that.

I am not a supporter of big oil either. I support cheaper energy costs with the least impact on the environment. I believe we will find that wind and solar are way worse for the environment than theyadmit

 

[Hammerhead02]

They are lying about them being better for the environment, that they will make energy cheaper, that climate change is man made.

It would not seem to be worth all the green energy spending if climate change was not man made and not a serious threat.

Can you show me anything to back that up? MidAmerican says is it cheaper. 88.7 percent of their energy is green. You need to provide some proof and not opinion.

 

[Hammerhead02]

So you just want hand outs for what helps you. I get that.

I am not a supporter of big oil either. I support cheaper energy costs with the least impact on the environment. I believe we will find that wind and solar are way worse for the environment than theyadmit

How are wind and solar worse for the environment? Again, you need to provide something.

 

[jamesvanderwulf]

Back in the day?? How about in the now and present? What’s past is past. Big oil is still treated with kid gloves by Congress and the IRS. I see nothing wrong with giving alternate energy industries (and it’s customers) the same breaks as we have given fossil fuels.

If it wasn't for Big Oil you wouldn't be able to take your carbon spewing, quarterly, trans continental vacations you're always bragging about. Try sticking to Polk county hypocrite...

 

[Hammerhead02]

If it wasn't for Big Oil you wouldn't be able to take your carbon spewing, quarterly, trans continental vacations you're always bragging about. Try sticking to Polk county hypocrite...

Should wind, solar, oil, and other energy sources that are provided to the public be treated the same? Yes or no.

 

[redghost1974]

Good.

Tard.

 

[jamesvanderwulf]

Should wind, solar, oil, and other energy sources that are provided to the public be treated the same? Yes or no.

? Same as what? Something is missing in this sentence, perhaps the object? Do you know how to diagram a sentence?

 

[Hammerhead02]

? Same as what? Something is missing in this sentence, perhaps the object? Do you know how to diagram a sentence?

Did I hurt some feelings ?????????????????????????????????

 

[joelbc1]

If it wasn't for Big Oil you wouldn't be able to take your carbon spewing, quarterly, trans continental vacations you're always bragging about. Try sticking to Polk county hypocrite...

Am I complaining? Hardly…treat’em the all same…. You phuquin’ whine a lot about very little James.

 

[jamesvanderwulf]

Did I hurt some feelings ?????????????????????????????????

Huh? What is you question? Can Joel make his multiple annual trips to Europe, Panama, the Caribbean and dozens of others he's chronicled using wind power? No, he can't. Only using carbon spewing, planes and ships and other fossil fed transportation can he vacation using the very means he castigates. Of course he does this because he's Team Blue and it's OK for him as long as others pick up the slack.

Yes, power companies can deduct land rent, depreciation of hard assets on wind farms, plus the subsidies to build them, Yes...

 

[Hammerhead02]

Huh? What is you question? Can Joel make his multiple annual trips to Europe, Panama, the Caribbean and dozens of others he's chronicled using wind power? No, he can't. Only using carbon spewing, planes and ships and other fossil fed transportation can he vacation using the very means he castigates. Of course he does this because he's Team Blue and it's OK for him as long as others pick up the slack.

Yes, power companies can deduct land rent, depreciation of hard assets on wind farms, plus the subsidies to build them, Yes...

Never answered the question. You are a smart man.

 

[joelbc1]

Huh? What is you question? Can Joel make his multiple annual trips to Europe, Panama, the Caribbean and dozens of others he's chronicled using wind power? No, he can't. Only using carbon spewing, planes and ships and other fossil fed transportation can he vacation using the very means he castigates. Of course he does this because he's Team Blue and it's OK for him as long as others pick up the slack.

Yes, power companies can deduct land rent, depreciation of hard assets on wind farms, plus the subsidies to build them, Yes...

Again James, when and where have I “castigated” fossil fuels? All I said earlier in this thread is that “alternate fuels” deserve the same legal and tax advantages that fossil fuels have historically received.

My golf carts, I prefer the ride of an electric cart as the batteries provide a smoother quieter ride compared to a gas power cart. I just rent my rides, though.

 

[uihawk82]

Because I have one of my degrees in meteorology and worked in the field for a few years. The data being used today isn't the same as it was 25 years ago, let alone 50-100 years ago. I've had discussions on here before and not one of the so called "experts" on here can even answer basic meteorology questions. What is going on is urban sprawl not CO2 issues. The atmosphere above ground levels isn't' changing at all.

How do you explain urban sprawl causing global temps averaged around the world going up and up and getting higher and higher each year. You think concrete and asphalt urban sprawl is causing that in the whole atmosphere? Really.

The carbon dioxide and methane level increases is enough to prove it. I know some people think that a million scientists and weather people who are taking readings around the globe are fudging the numbers but that is too big of a conspiracy to maintain.

 

[uihawk82]

Looks like the cancel culture is in full swing. And, of course, when pressed for details on the changes, state officials lied.
https://www.kcrg.com/2025/01/15/iowa-could-remove-mentions-climate-change-education-standards/

very shortsighted and anti truth and anti science, Iowa is falling into a morass of mediocrity

 

[Hawk_82]

How are wind and solar worse for the environment? Again, you need to provide something.

I think the large footprint is way undervalued.

Ironically they also cause warming.

https://scitechdaily.com/wind-farms-cause-more-environmental-impact-than-previously-thought/

 

[Hawk_82]

Can you show me anything to back that up? MidAmerican says is it cheaper. 88.7 percent of their energy is green. You need to provide some proof and not opinion.

I use MidAmerican, my electric rate is 30-40% higher today than it was 5 years ago. what gives?

 

[Bulldogs1974]

If it wasn't for Big Oil you wouldn't be able to take your carbon spewing, quarterly, trans continental vacations you're always bragging about. Try sticking to Polk county hypocrite...

Jesus you tool were not using steam engines either.

 

[joelbc1]

I use MidAmerican, my electric rate is 30-40% higher today than it was 5 years ago. what gives?

Wholesale Gas prices have sky rocketed the past 5-7 years…doubling. I can’t explain why you electricity rates have increased…we have Mis America too, and I certainly fact witnessed high electric rates…

 

[Bulldogs1974]

I use MidAmerican, my electric rate is 30-40% higher today than it was 5 years ago. what gives?

Mine hasn’t even doubled sine 2008. ?

 

[jamesvanderwulf]

Never answered the question. You are a smart man.

I didn't? See below...I'll bold it for you old bastards...

Huh? What is you question? Can Joel make his multiple annual trips to Europe, Panama, the Caribbean and dozens of others he's chronicled using wind power? No, he can't. Only using carbon spewing, planes and ships and other fossil fed transportation can he vacation using the very means he castigates. Of course he does this because he's Team Blue and it's OK for him as long as others pick up the slack.

Yes, power companies can deduct land rent, depreciation of hard assets on wind farms, plus the subsidies to build them, Yes...

Jesus you tool were not using steam engines either.

Please address Joel. I don't go on carbon burning vacations like Joel. I stay in the Tri County conserving oil and fossil fuels. I put geo thermal in my new home at double the cost to me. I don't heat an outdoor swimming pool like Ole hole in the head either. I don't bitch about fossil fuels while flying around the world. I have a canoe, I paddle around the Tri-C...

 

[Hammerhead02]

I use MidAmerican, my electric rate is 30-40% higher today than it was 5 years ago. what gives?

Demand is higher and war is across the globe. Again, it is easy to Google these answers.