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PSU's really good

it's not if they knew it's that they should have known,gigantic failure.


True. There is a big difference between not knowing something they should have and covering up.

Everyone in the wrestling community should have know about John Dupont. Did they all cover it up? Dupont and Villanova University were sued in the 80s. The warning signs were there.

How about Bill Cosby. There had been over 30 women come forward and Cosby was still working. It was not until an audio confession went public that people turned on him.
 
i'm sorry zwick I should not have responded to this subject, no way for you to win this arguement with us and I get nothing but gut punched just thinking about that kind of stuff.just know I am never the one to use it to feel like I am superior to penn st. posters. that is disrespectful to the victims.
 
Someone who asks for proof then makes statements about things that 'may' happen or will happen with no proof of these things. Meanwhile Sandusky rots in jail convicted on 45 of 48 charges. Many of which happened on campus and on school paid for travel. So as far as having proof of things I am going with convictions trumping what you claim will or may happen. When those things occur feel free to bring them back up again. Until then a sick man was allowed to molest kids at Penn State, at least that is what the courts say.


sorry guys had to respond to this lie.

One charge of showering with a boy at PSU campus. He was not employed by PSU at the time. Psu's officials brought it to the attention of the proper authorities. There was zero molestation at PSU according to the law.

Good Luck this year Hawks!!! In football:)
 
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I would agree with this, but I am also really impressed with Jack early on. Saw him at nationals, was surprised and impressed a bit, but not sure if it was ju a thought getting hot at the right time.

Watching him this year and he's more than just top game. He's impressive in all positions. Hard to believe for a 2nd year guy from Connecticut.

Thorn is pretty tough and it was pretty evident who was clearly the better wrestler despite him keeping it close for a bit. Wouldn't be surprised with a major next time they wrestled.
 
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sorry guys had to respond to this lie.

One charge of showering with a boy at PSU campus. He was not employed by PSU at the time. Psu's officials brought it to the attention of the proper authorities. There was zero molestation at PSU according to the law.

Good Luck this year Hawks!!! In football:)


Not really. Mistakes were obviously made. McQuery took it to Joe and Joe went to the AD, VP and President(Northwestern grad). They did not believe the story and did not want to ruin Sandusky's reputation without any proof. They should have just passed the info on to the police. If they did that then PSU would have been totally in the clear. PSU learned after the fact that the police had already investigated Sandusky so they probably would not have done much with this case. Most likely none of the abuse would have been prevented but PSU would have been in the clear. The main mistake was not passing the info along to the police. Joe was 80 and he F'ed up. He did not cover it up but he f'ed up.
 
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and in related news.... Guilibon is no longer ranked #1 by Flo


That is a given. You knew he was not that good before the season and you had a thread on it. Rankings change. Bo is moving up. The think that kills PSU is losing Nevils and not having a legit backup.
 
I wouldn't say it kills PSU. Neville was good and will likely be very good as he progresses, but he's a small freshman heavy in a pretty deep weight class. At the most it may cost a couple points at NCAAs but I don't think he's likely to have had a high placing. PSU is still really, really good.
 
FLO put OSU as #1 this week, Penn State drops. Nolf, Nickal and McCutcheon do not move up despite their results this week.
CP's explanation:
"It's a one point gap between Oklahoma State and Penn State. Klimara bumping up two spots from 7 to 5 with Moisey and Youtsey falling ultimately is the difference. These two teams are simply that close. Iowa isn't too far behind either then there's a pretty noticeable drop-off. A team like Ohio State may be the biggest threat to climb into the top 3 with Hunter Stieber yet to return and Micah Jordan looking like a hammer, yet those two are currently scoring a combined .5 points in these rankings."
 
sorry guys had to respond to this lie.

One charge of showering with a boy at PSU campus. He was not employed by PSU at the time. Psu's officials brought it to the attention of the proper authorities. There was zero molestation at PSU according to the law.

Good Luck this year Hawks!!! In football:)
You probably believe that OJ did nothing wrong also. At least according to the law. There was much testimony ( under oath) that stated that Jerry frequently showered with young boys at PSU. Of course you do not believe that either?
 
Relax gentleman. Rankings are just that rankings.
It will all work it's self out during the season.
 
You probably believe that OJ did nothing wrong also. At least according to the law. There was much testimony ( under oath) that stated that Jerry frequently showered with young boys at PSU. Of course you do not believe that either?

Iowa fans get to celebrate the good old '80s and '90s and talk trash about a sexual deviant who was on the staff of the Penn State football team. Penn State fans get to welcome the best recruits in the country, celebrate winning four of the past five titles, and look forward to winning many more in the near future. No need to bicker, fellas. That's what we call a win-win.
 
Iowa fans get to celebrate the good old '80s and '90s and talk trash about a sexual deviant who was on the staff of the Penn State football team. Penn State fans get to welcome the best recruits in the country, celebrate winning four of the past five titles, and look forward to winning many more in the near future. No need to bicker, fellas. That's what we call a win-win.

PSU is leading the nation in number of administrations to employ a child predator and provide him sanctuary. That will never wash off and the rest of the country hates you (including 2/3 of your own state). Funny thing is you guys think people are jealous of your success. LOL

I'd trade PSU for Pitt in a heartbeat.
 
PSU is leading the nation in number of administrations to employ a child predator and provide him sanctuary. That will never wash off and the rest of the country hates you (including 2/3 of your own state). Funny thing is you guys think people are jealous of your success. LOL

I'd trade PSU for Pitt in a heartbeat.


You're an idiot and we are all dumber for reading that complete drivel you spew out of that prehistoric mouth of yours!!!
 
Iowa fans get to celebrate the good old '80s and '90s and talk trash about a sexual deviant who was on the staff of the Penn State football team. Penn State fans get to welcome the best recruits in the country, celebrate winning four of the past five titles, and look forward to winning many more in the near future. No need to bicker, fellas. That's what we call a win-win.

Actually Cholley, it is the good old 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s and the odd duck in 2010. If you are going to label us has-beens, at least get it right ;)
 
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You're an idiot and we are all dumber for reading that complete drivel you spew out of that prehistoric mouth of yours!!!


Did all this crap get decided in court? Is not someone in jail and stuff happened to others?

What does all this have to do with wrestling?
Let's move on.
 
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Did all this crap get decided in court? Is not someone in jail and stuff happened to others?

What does all this have to do with wrestling?
Let's move on.

Amen...This had absolutely nothing to do with their wrestling program...unless some are just using that because they are pissed we aren't beating them so that's the best comeback some can up with to get underneath their skin. We can do better.
 
Pathetic. Tying Sandusky and the administration to Cael and the PSU wrestling program. Stfu and get over PSU's success. Iowa will have their day again.
 
PSU is leading the nation in number of administrations to employ a child predator and provide him sanctuary. That will never wash off and the rest of the country hates you (including 2/3 of your own state). Funny thing is you guys think people are jealous of your success. LOL

I'd trade PSU for Pitt in a heartbeat.



Does Pitt have a team?
 
A whole bunch of PSU fans apparently bought tickets to watch a Pitt wrestling meet a couple of years ago. Easy to forget since not very many fans actually showed up to watch that "record" setting event.
I bet Carver has had 20 meets with more butts in seat than their "record".
 
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