QB for Bowl Game?

[sober_teacher]

Wisconsin put up 25 points and 400+ yards the week before. USC put up 28 and 441 yards the week before that. It's not the kind of defense that should hold you to 20 yards and 1 1st down in a half on your home field. That was all Iowa right there.

To be fair, I'd have loved to have seen Sullivan play against that D. I can't imagine it helped being down to the 5th string QB.

Don't get me wrong, there's still many critiques I have from Lester's game plan that i don't get why they didn't try things X Y or Z, but that couldn't have helped the cause.

 

[HawkBall23]

If the Hawks are serious about picking up a QB in the portal, make it someone worthy of being QB1 next season.

I LOVE Sullivan's running ability and heart, but his throwing ability seems only marginally better than McNamara's was.



(of course, if KF has his way, he'd pull in another Deacon Hill type)

 

[jonesy5960]

To be fair, I'd have loved to have seen Sullivan play against that D. I can't imagine it helped being down to the 5th string QB.

Don't get me wrong, there's still many critiques I have from Lester's game plan that i don't get why they didn't try things X Y or Z, but that couldn't have helped the cause.

Oh I'm sure that was a significant factor, but the Iowa offense was so thoroughly dominated in every way that I'm not sure it mattered who was playing QB. They weren't great against UCLA either.

 

[Gonzo Bloor]

Makes no difference. We're going to get smoked no matter who the QB is because we'll be playing a decently strong (probably) SEC team and Kirk's playbook of doing nothing on offense and hoping for a defensive miracle won't work since we're not playing against a crappy B1G West team.

 

[sober_teacher]

If the Hawks are serious about picking up a QB in the portal, make it someone worthy of being QB1 next season.

I LOVE Sullivan's running ability and heart, but his throwing ability seems only marginally better than McNamara's was.



(of course, if KF has his way, he'd pull in another Deacon Hill type)

oh for heaven's sake - just let the Deacon Hill stuff died. You know, I know, and everyone else knows he was brought in solely for depth...Everyone expected Labas to be the backup to Cade last year, but whatever Labas did happened, and we ended up with Hill as the backup. And then it all went downhill from there for reasons that Kirk will never be able to adequately explain.

I think Sullivan can be a solid option at QB, but also agree that at the very least we need to try to bring in someone that can compete with him for the job - he certainly didn't do well enough in the 2 games or so we saw him this year to guarantee him the job.

 

[millah_22]

If Sullivan can't go, we're fooked. Gonna look like Tennessee P2.

 

[sober_teacher]

Oh I'm sure that was a significant factor, but the Iowa offense was so thoroughly dominated in every way that I'm not sure it mattered who was playing QB. They weren't great against UCLA either.

They started well enough prior to Sullivan getting banged up, and did manage a scoring drive with Stratton to tie it.

Bigger problem was the poor play by the defense.

 

[IChawkeye45]

If Sullivan can't go, we're fooked. Gonna look like Tennessee P2.

It might be worse than that, Iowa’s offense last Friday loses to a Texas A&M or South Carolina by 30 plus.

 

[millah_22]

They started well enough prior to Sullivan getting banged up, and did manage a scoring drive with Stratton to tie it.

Bigger problem was the poor play by the defense.

Sullivan at least keeps defenses from loading the box because he can at least pass.

Stratton is not a good passer and UCLA and Nebraska played accordingly. It legit took KJ to break 5 tackles to give Stratton 75% of his passing yards.

 

[sober_teacher]

Sullivan at least keeps defenses from loading the box because he can at least pass.

Stratton is not a good passer and UCLA and Nebraska played accordingly. It legit took KJ to break 5 tackles to give Stratton 75% of his passing yards.

When healthy I agree. Sullivan was clearly available only as an absolute emergency friday.

 

[MilleGinja]

Wisconsin put up 25 points and 400+ yards the week before. USC put up 28 and 441 yards the week before that. It's not the kind of defense that should hold you to 20 yards and 1 1st down in a half on your home field. That was all Iowa right there.

Were either of those teams playing with their 4th string QB?

 

[jonesy5960]

They started well enough prior to Sullivan getting banged up, and did manage a scoring drive with Stratton to tie it.

Bigger problem was the poor play by the defense.

I'll never understand Iowa fans. The defense gave up 20 points. That's equivalent to the 20th best defense in the country and that shouldn't be too much for any average offense to overcome given the fact that the average offense scores 28 points per game.

 

[sober_teacher]

I'll never understand Iowa fans. The defense gave up 20 points. That's equivalent to the 20th best defense in the country and that shouldn't be too much for any average offense to overcome given the fact that the average offense scores 28 points per game.

1st - once they were down to Stratton they were a long way from being an "average offense".

2nd - the defense gave up 200+ yards rushing to one of the worst offenses in the country. they managed to hold them to just 20 points, but from the moment the offense managed to tie the game at 17 - the offense got to run 3 more plays. Defense couldn't get off the field and allowed UCLA to run 21.

Love our defense, but it's just not being honest if you can't admit they didn't play at their best that day.

 

[jonesy5960]

Were either of those teams playing with their 4th string QB?

No. This thread started out with someone asking how bad it could be facing an SEC opponent with that 4th string QB behind center. I responded that it was bad enough vs a pedestrian Nebraska team and that's how we arrived here...

 

[Heathen Raider]

I'll never understand Iowa fans. The defense gave up 20 points. That's equivalent to the 20th best defense in the country and that shouldn't be too much for any average offense to overcome given the fact that the average offense scores 28 points per game.

UCLA front 7 is tough but they are 1 of the worst pass Ds in the Country, Iowa not being able to pass them out of the loaded fronts to open things up for Johnson is an Iowa problem, Defense wasn't great but 20 on the road is fine , problem is it took a few turnovers deep to keep that from being 34 points . UCLA seemed like they were on offense the entire game .

 

[jonesy5960]

1st - once they were down to Stratton they were a long way from being an "average offense".

2nd - the defense gave up 200+ yards rushing to one of the worst offenses in the country. they managed to hold them to just 20 points, but from the moment the offense managed to tie the game at 17 - the offense got to run 3 more plays. Defense couldn't get off the field and allowed UCLA to run 21.

Love our defense, but it's just not being honest if you can't admit they didn't play at their best that day.

The defense gave up 20 points. That's good enough to win 80-90% of college football games.

They were not their best that day. Normally it should still be enough.

 

[IowaMuse]

It doesn’t matter.,

 

[sober_teacher]

That's good enough to win 80-90% of college football games.

Agreed - but 80-90% of college football games don't feature a 5th string QB taking his first major collegiate snaps.

 

[jonesy5960]

Agreed - but 80-90% of college football games don't feature a 5th string QB taking his first major collegiate snaps.

Sigh... Then don't tell me that "the bigger problem was the poor play by the defense"... The bigger problem in that game and the ISU games were the Iowa offense, per usual.

 

[intrepodor]

Sullivan at least keeps defenses from loading the box because he can at least pass.

Stratton is not a good passer and UCLA and Nebraska played accordingly. It legit took KJ to break 5 tackles to give Stratton 75% of his passing yards.

Stratton has a better arm then Sullivan. He can also run.

 

[millah_22]

Stratton has a better arm then Sullivan. He can also run.

I guess I would like to see it then.

 

[TXHCHawk]

Stratton has a better arm then Sullivan. He can also run.

I agree about his arm. I disagree, at this point, about his running.

 

[sober_teacher]

Sigh... Then don't tell me that "the bigger problem was the poor play by the defense"... The bigger problem in that game and the ISU games were the Iowa offense, per usual.

Have to agree to disagree. Defense giving up 400 yards to a bad team and not being able to get off the field was the bigger problem.

 

[jonesy5960]

Have to agree to disagree. Defense giving up 400 yards to a bad team and not being able to get off the field was the bigger problem.

Games aren't decided by yardage. They are decided by points. Otherwise Iowa lost on Friday. Bigly.

 

[IaHawks03]

Am I the only one who actually thinks Stratton has an accurate arm? The offense hasn't allowed him to throw it down the field. I wish they'd open up the playbook (been saying that for years) his limited throws have looked good.

 

[intrepodor]

I agree about his arm. I disagree, at this point, about his running.

Meaning he can escape where Cade couldn't

 

[sober_teacher]

Games aren't decided by yardage. They are decided by points. Otherwise Iowa lost on Friday. Bigly.

No kidding.