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Question for Conservatives and Trump Voters

Hillary would have been stealing money instead of cutting spending and rooting out corruption. She is corruption.
She didn’t need to be. She and Bill had plenty of scams going on with their best friend, DJT, until he decided to switch parties.
 
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I don't think I'm an idiot, but it's entirely possible I've been wrong all these years.

From my perspective, yours is a bit of a simplistic view. They already have a lot of power, the proof of that is occurring right now. But I understand your point (particularly that I might be an idiot, as I think I've heard my wife mention that before).
Here's an idiot for you...

I see,.. So next time your team gets in, you guys can attack government waste your way.
 
They are not even pretending to look for waste. They are redlining programs they personally disagree with. They are firing anyone who investigated or who might threaten to investigate them. There's nothing simplistic about that...the simplistic view is they really are concerned about govt waste.

You think POTUS had power before? They now have unelected, unsupervised, unaccountable Elon gremlins with root access to the computers at Treasury with the power to zero out any program they object to or any department that might stand in their way. They have a Congress that will bend over and take it up the ass rather than question ANYTHING they do. They have a SCOTUS willing to do God knows what. And while morons stand around cheering their pursuit of "waste", they just continue to consolidate and expand their power and they have a minimum of two more years to do it.
Hey, I pretty much agree with your comments and certainly agree with the urgency behind them.

I do think a portion of the "redlining" is a ridiculously fast-tracked way to change budget priorities/appropriations. In a sense this happens every election (i.e. elections have consequences) however it is typically done via proper protocols and in acknowledgement of the separation of powers. Because the TrumpElon processes have been so incorrect, many of the actions taken the last week will very likely be deemed "wrong"/halted/overturned by reviewing courts. And you obviously can't have the fox guarding the henhouse, so we can't have Elon determining whether he has a conflict of interest.

I also think Congressional Dems will prove to be a useful adversary to TrumpElon this term, but we'll soon find out.
 
I figured I would address this to both groups. Perhaps a Pepsi worth asking many times.

If in their first week in office, if Obama or Biden had sent someone into federal government buildings, locked out the employees and started to access data, information and changed programming, HOW WOULD YOU HAVE REACTED?

I guess I can also add, and targeted republican federal workers who were critical of them...
As a liberal dem who has never voted for any republican that I can remember, especially at the Fed level, I would be appalled and screaming for obama and biden to stop it.

If Trump wants to send in auditors into these places like USAID but keep the agencies running I have no problem with that as long as they dont interfer with the work.

Along time ago and many of you maybe dont know or remember there were scandalous reports of Medicare getting scammed by providers who were crooks, etc. A lot of it was in the medical equipment area where pop up shops run by people who had stolen medicare numbers who file bogus claims on wheelchairs and all kinds of equipment.

And no one seemed to know how to stop this. I thought the easiest way to stop it was to demand any new businessses dealing with Medicare had to go through a more thourough background check BUT especially they would have to put down a large, very large amount of money into a Bond type account to pay if they were not on the level. But I dont think that was ever enacted which is too bad because a lot of crooks are not going to do that with their money or they didnt have the money
 
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The fact that you can say that about Hillary, while being okay with a lifelong conman like Trump doing it, shows that you are absolutely in a cult. You're a brainwashed boot licking stooge.
Thank you. I will treasure your insults. They are a badge of honor.
 
None of that is true. Answer the question, you simpleton.
Actually, OIT's points were 100% spot-on, on the money. One cannot make truths go away simply by declaring them to be gone!

Biden did cancel most of Trump's EO's, nearly all of the signed and paid-for drilling leases issued under Trump, and even superseded Trump's Covid response (which was state-centric) replacing it with his own plan while insisting that Trump's plan was doomed for failure. He proceeded to cat-call and mock Trump all along, thinking this would earn him brownie points with the electorate.

This was for starters, He then proceeded to reverse nearly every single Trump program he could during his four years in office. He started giving money to Iran again, he begged to be allowed back into the Paris accords,. ... and the list goes on and on ...
 
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The reason being that he wanted to erase Trump from "all-things-government-related." Whatever Trump had set out to do, he set out to cancel by doing the opposite. Trump was Biden's compass; if Trump was North, Biden was South and so on.
lol…if Trump is north, every thinking person is south. Which explains you and yours.
 
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Politics is fascinating to watch. For some dipshit like @ottumwan in tx to admit he would cheer Obama for this same situation is f'ing unbelievable. I'm falling into the "burn it down" category more everyday.
 
Not at all,.. If it were being done with the goal of minimizing government, I'm totally on board,.. But we all know that no Democrat politician short of Joe Manchin is going to do that,.. certainly not Obama or Biden.

Do any Dems have any concept of what $37T represents to this country and its future viability?
^ Yet morons like these two turn a blind eye to Trump grifting the federal government for millions. Absolutely mentally challenged.
 
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That's where you're wrong, they aren't firing political opponents, they're cleaning up wasteful spending. Our government is 2 trillion dollars over budget every year and has 37 trillion in total debt. After the covid's emergency spending, the government didn't go back to pre-covid budgets, no, they just added more to that huge number again and again. The budget needs to be cut to the bone before our country collapses on itself.

I remember reading, on this very board, lefties saying Republicans cutting spending was just another lie and all the right wanted to do was spend just as much money as possible but on Republican priorities. Well Trump and Elon called your bluff.
And you are a dope for believing this is what they are doing. We are living under a dictatorship now. You just currently agree with the dictator… for now.
 
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I figured I would address this to both groups. Perhaps a Pepsi worth asking many times.

If in their first week in office, if Obama or Biden had sent someone into federal government buildings, locked out the employees and started to access data, information and changed programming, HOW WOULD YOU HAVE REACTED?

I guess I can also add, and targeted republican federal workers who were critical of them...
I spent the last 4 years getting fake fact checked on social media, being called every ist the left knows, and labeled garbage by the last president. I seriously don’t care one bit that the demoncrat grift known as USAID is being guttted.
 
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And you are a dope for believing this is what they are doing. We are living under a dictatorship now. You just currently agree with the dictator… for now.
You and the other NYC residents who are routinely sold a bill of goods live under a dictatorship now.
You obviously love it so what’s the big deal?
 
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That's where you're wrong, they aren't firing political opponents, they're cleaning up wasteful spending. Our government is 2 trillion dollars over budget every year and has 37 trillion in total debt. After the covid's emergency spending, the government didn't go back to pre-covid budgets, no, they just added more to that huge number again and again. The budget needs to be cut to the bone before our country collapses on itself.

I remember reading, on this very board, lefties saying Republicans cutting spending was just another lie and all the right wanted to do was spend just as much money as possible but on Republican priorities. Well Trump and Elon called your bluff.
Then how do you square massive tax cuts driving up our deficits again?
 
If he's your guy for cutting actual government waste, sure,... Bring it on.
The waste is a rounding error in our budget. Military increases alone will swallow up any of these savings. Meanwhile tax cuts will increase our debt by trillions again.
 
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You and the other NYC residents who are routinely sold a bill of goods live under a dictatorship now.
You obviously love it so what’s the big deal?
That doesn’t even make sense. Please explain how NY is a dictatorship. Or any state in the NE, for that matter.

Your extreme bias is showing.
 
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