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[HerkyFan]

You're exaggerating. The Big 10 hasn't been as bad as it now is for decades. A few years maybe, but not decades.

The Big Ten is better than the Texas Ten this year. Just look at the Top 10 of the CFP rankings.

Does clown fan know what those are?

Best part about all these conversations: Iowa State 83, Iowa 82 FINAL

Maybe next year isu will be able to beat the Hawks on their own. They sure couldn't this year.

Must that be ignored by clown fan as well?

 

[Bigfann1966]

It was tied with 2:14 in the game.


It was tied with 2:14 to go and I WAS NERVOUS! We pulled it out but let's get real.

What are you talking about?

 

[relishingwinning18]

Never said we had a great football team. Hell, we were crummy in football.

And, as I said yesterday, there was a thread on ISU board earlier this week saying we are likely over rated in hoops. Virtually all respondents, including this one, AGREED.

But, wouldn't you want your hoops team to lose to a top 10 team, rather than an unranked team? Hell, we did that several times in football...something Iowa football didn't experience until December.

please list all the top ten teams you lost to.

 

[Bigfann1966]

You're exaggerating. The Big 10 hasn't been as bad as it now is for decades. A few years maybe, but not decades.

C'mon man.....at least speak with some intelligence! Last years NC was a Big10 school? Really?

 

[HerkyFan]

please list all the top ten teams you lost to.

Yes what top tens teams in a he final CFP poll?

 

[HerkyFan]

C'mon man.....at least speak with some intelligence! Last years NC was a Big10 school? Really?

Clown fans always ignore what so easily defeats their feeble arguments.

It is just how they roll.

 

[Bigfann1966]

Best part about all these conversations: Iowa State 83, Iowa 82 FINAL

Why not enjoy your win, instead you come to the other teams board and pound your chest? Your a real class act....just like most of your clown following.

 

[And1Hawk]

Quite frankly I would be embarrassed that your final four and national title contender team eeked out a 1 to victory on your home floor against an unranked 2 loss at the time Iowa team. Last year you guys ran us out of the gym so I expected much the same this year. That was more disappointing in some respects because the gap was wide. If anyone told me we would lose by 1 and lead the game for all of but 39 seconds I would still be disappointed which I am to lose but impressed by my teams effort to win in a tough place.

You guys are really good at basketball and I have not seen too many Iowa fans outside of the jihadic wing protest this. It's ok your good we just enjoy our program no offense to yours.

What's so interesting is your response to a win. I never expected the large number of ISU folks coming over to a visitors message board seeking attention and validation based on a 1 pt victory as a highly ranked team at home that rarely loses. Wow that's so surprising and again tells me that you have one insecure fan base. We win that game I am thrilled the most because it would bolster our NCAA tourney resume with a quality win and we are admittedly a bubble team. Opportunity lost for us. Then I am looking forward to future games and the conference season putting ISU in the rear view mirror. I am in process of doing that already even with the loss but shocked by the neediness of the ISU fan base. Very, very surprised being very good is so unsatisfying for you all and what a shame. I did not feel that way this year during football and really enjoyed the historic ride amongst fellow Hawk brethren. The last thing I thought about was ISU.

 

[kwik44]

Why even bother with ISU. Save the real discussions for real athletic departments (Wisky, Neb, MSU). Ya know, things that matter in sports, not ISU.

 

[Myvue]

8 of 14 Big 10 teams are going to a bowl game but Iowa only played 3 of them during the regular season.

Iowa didn’t have to play any of the top 4 teams in the East this year. Most of the perennial best Big 10 teams are in the East and Iowa only has to play two teams each year meaning it will be 3 to 4 years between games with any East teams and they may never have to play two of the best in the same year. Kudos to Iowa’s season but they did have a weak conference schedule this year whether you want to admit to that or not. Iowa’s opponents Big 10 record this year reflects that with a combined 23-41 conference record. Iowa’s Big 10 opponents still had a 23-33 record when you take out their losses to Iowa.

 

[kwik44]

8 of 14 Big 10 teams are going to a bowl game but Iowa only played 3 of them during the regular season.

Iowa didn’t have to play any of the top 4 teams in the East this year. Most of the perennial best Big 10 teams are in the East and Iowa only has to play two teams each year meaning it will be 3 to 4 years between games with any East teams and they may never have to play two of the best in the same year. Kudos to Iowa’s season but they did have a weak conference schedule this year whether you want to admit to that or not. Iowa’s opponents Big 10 record this year reflects that with a combined 23-41 conference record. Iowa’s Big 10 opponents still had a 23-33 record when you take out their losses to Iowa.

Again, why even acknowledge what a lowly ISU thinks?

Iowa has and always will be above ISU. Sorry, but this is the reality everyone lives with.

 

[And1Hawk]

8 of 14 Big 10 teams are going to a bowl game but Iowa only played 3 of them during the regular season.

Iowa didn’t have to play any of the top 4 teams in the East this year. Most of the perennial best Big 10 teams are in the East and Iowa only has to play two teams each year meaning it will be 3 to 4 years between games with any East teams and they may never have to play two of the best in the same year. Kudos to Iowa’s season but they did have a weak conference schedule this year whether you want to admit to that or not. Iowa’s opponents Big 10 record this year reflects that with a combined 23-41 conference record. Iowa’s Big 10 opponents still had a 23-33 record when you take out their losses to Iowa.

We lost to the East champ by 3 points in the last 30 seconds. We lead a vast majority of that game did Iowa not? That's the best team the East could put up were they not? So maybe the West was not all that far off after all. If you were at the championship game which I assume you were not as I would guess you are not an Iowa fan, multiple MSU fans walked up to my group unsolicited to let us know that we were the best team by far they had played and that included defending national champ OSU. We wished each other luck and support as this great conference brotherhood does. Great to be B1G.

Also I think the B1G has 10 bowl teams but who's fact checking when 2 are 5-7.

Still had to beat 12 teams in a row on the schedule. Never been done in our history. Our schedule was actually better last year than this year when we won 7. You can try all you want but it was a historic season and it's great to know you are jealous.

 

[DavenportHawk8]

I didn't realize Iowa could control their opponents. I suppose once they got to 7-0 they should of called the conference office and requested to play other teams?? Come on I expected ISU fans to be a little more intelligent than that.

Iowa beat 12 teams, they can't control who they have on their schedule. They are one of the few teams who schedule 2 FBS power 5 teams in the non-conf (unfortunately 1 of them is ISU). So they get no credit for that win. It is actually a no win game for them (they win everyone expects it, they lose its a major upset). It makes me laugh when people dog Iowa's schedule saying they knew 5 years ago who they were playing. Pretty sure the East/West split wasn't even thought of? I kind of laugh at that logic.

Regardless ISU fans are on the basketball bandwagon right now. They have nothing going for them in Football, so they are "all in" for basketball. If they lose to KU, OU, and other Big 12 teams you will see major meltdown by Cy-nation. IF they get beat in the 1st round of the tourney again, pretty sure there will be suicide watch in Ames.

 

[HerkyFan]

8 of 14 Big 10 teams are going to a bowl game but Iowa only played 3 of them during the regular season.

Iowa didn’t have to play any of the top 4 teams in the East this year. Most of the perennial best Big 10 teams are in the East and Iowa only has to play two teams each year meaning it will be 3 to 4 years between games with any East teams and they may never have to play two of the best in the same year. Kudos to Iowa’s season but they did have a weak conference schedule this year whether you want to admit to that or not. Iowa’s opponents Big 10 record this year reflects that with a combined 23-41 conference record. Iowa’s Big 10 opponents still had a 23-33 record when you take out their losses to Iowa.

Iowa is good enough we could have gone 12-0 with isu's schedule. Meanwhile isu would have gone 1-11 or 2-10 with Iowa's.

 

[b10fn]

I see a lot of threads saying we are not a good team, we are garbage. Not a top 10 team and so on. I assume its because we barely beat Iowa. So my question is this. You guys were arguing to anyone that would listen that your football team is good. They won all the games. Ferentz eve had a quote like "its not gymnastics, the goal is to win, not a syle show but win by 1 point". So how is Iowa State basketball winning and going 8-0 qny different from Iowa Football. I m3an you barely beat Nebraska. You barely beat Iowa State, purdue, and a lot of other teams. So does that mean your football team is not good, garbage, not a top 10 team? Whats the difference?

I'm not sure how good your team is or how good your coach is, but I know this without a shadow of a doubt. You have the most garbage fan base in the universe including the biggest little brother envy that has ever been in the history of man. It is truly pathetic how bad that it is. Your AD is a boor and really doesn't know how adults are supposed to act.

 

[HerkyFan]

I'm not sure how good your team is or how good your coach is, but I know this without a shadow of a doubt. You have the most garbage fan base in the universe including the biggest little brother envy that has ever been in the history of man. It is truly pathetic how bad that it is. Your AD is a boor and really doesn't know how adults are supposed to act.

Clown fans will say this must be ignored. They will have no answer.

 

[herecomethehawkeyes]

Clown fans always ignore what so easily defeats their feeble arguments.

It is just how they troll.

fify

 

[Bigfann1966]

8 of 14 Big 10 teams are going to a bowl game but Iowa only played 3 of them during the regular season.

Iowa didn’t have to play any of the top 4 teams in the East this year. Most of the perennial best Big 10 teams are in the East and Iowa only has to play two teams each year meaning it will be 3 to 4 years between games with any East teams and they may never have to play two of the best in the same year. Kudos to Iowa’s season but they did have a weak conference schedule this year whether you want to admit to that or not. Iowa’s opponents Big 10 record this year reflects that with a combined 23-41 conference record. Iowa’s Big 10 opponents still had a 23-33 record when you take out their losses to Iowa.

The top teams in the conference are MSU, Iowa, OSU, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Michigan....so we played three of the top six that are not Iowa. Nice try...... We missed 4-4, 7-4 PSU? Ok. All the power conferences have the same system. All but the little12 that is....... I doubt you have MSU in the numbers you used here....

3 BIG bowl teams....let me help you out clown, the number is actually 6! For the numerically challenged clown fans here is a list of teams we played going to a bowl: MSU, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Nebraska, Minnesota, Indiana.That doesn't include Pittsburg. Trying posting the facts clown!!!! Have you looked at your conference record? You would be right where we are...so what's your excuse clown for being 3-8? Without any adjustments its 43-43, real world beater there?

 

[Lone Clone]

I'm not sure how good your team is or how good your coach is, but I know this without a shadow of a doubt. You have the most garbage fan base in the universe including the biggest little brother envy that has ever been in the history of man. It is truly pathetic how bad that it is. Your AD is a boor and really doesn't know how adults are supposed to act.

If you believe this, you have never seen the Iowa fan base.

 

[HerkyFan]

If you believe this, you have never seen the Iowa fan base.

Do tell us about the d-bag AD isu has LC. Or the racist students. Or the professor who committed research fraud.

isu has douchy down-pat.

 

[BeepBeepInMyJeep]

Getting back to your point, it really doesn't matter. In football a strggle against an unranked team can cost you a lot. With basketball, it doesn't matter how good people think you are so long as you're good enough to be in the NCAA tournament. Its harder to get into a bracket of 4, where the criteria is extremely subjective, vs. Getting into the field of 68 that's almost exclusively using numbered metrics.

 

[Rustys Dad]

Best part about all these conversations: Iowa State 83, Iowa 82 FINAL

And why is it you are hanging on the Iowa message board? Feeling insecure? Immature posting ... If you are older than 17 I feel for you.

 

[Hans81]

I'll say it again, so fortunate that I'm a Hawkeye fan and not a trashy iswho fan.

 

[b10fn]

If you believe this, you have never seen the Iowa fan base.

Iowa is not a little brother to anyone. You are. Ironically, the actions of your fan base have cemented this distinction for the rest of time as they believe in it so much they continue breeding this thought process down through generations.

 

[Lone Clone]

Honestly! If you don't stop this, I'm going to turn this car around!!

 

[ISUhawk]

ISU obviously has a good team, but I would be a little worried that they are following a the same pattern as last year. If they let teams get a big lead, then have to scramble back to get wins then it will eventually come back to bite them. Aka UAB. Burton apparently is a talent, but overall Cyclones may not have as much room to improve during the season. We'll see.

Hawks are still experimenting with youthful backups and the losses of White and Olesini. I think they can get a lot better!!

 

[Lone Clone]

ISU obviously has a good team, but I would be a little worried that they are following a the same pattern as last year. If they let teams get a big lead, then have to scramble back to get wins then it will eventually come back to bite them. Aka UAB. Burton apparently is a talent, but overall Cyclones may not have as much room to improve during the season. We'll see.

Hawks are still experimenting with youthful backups and the losses of White and Olesini. I think they can get a lot better!!

I, for one, have the concerns you cite. And I think everybody thought ISU was/is ranked too highly. There's at least one thread on CR about it. That happens this time of year, ISU is solidly on the radar pre-season, for legitimate reasons, and is undefeated while other teams have lost. Moving up in the ranking is a process of elimination.

Cyclones will lose; quite possibly to UNI or Cincinnati or both.

 

[TailgateTom]

Best part about all these conversations: Iowa State 83, Iowa 82 FINAL

No, the best part is:

...the two best things that have EVER happened to Iowa State got the hell out of Ames as fast as they could!!!! But go ahead and cling to a one point win over a non-ranked team in December. Whatever helps you guys sleep at night, I suppose. How miserable must life be as an Iowa State fan?

 

[HerkyFan]

No, the best part is:

...the two best things that have EVER happened to Iowa State got the hell out of Ames as fast as they could!!!! But go ahead and cling to a one point win over a non-ranked team in December. Whatever helps you guys sleep at night, I suppose. How miserable must life be as an Iowa State fan?

Must ignore how awesome it is to work for Pollard.

 

[EZ2BJZ]

Just looked again at their schedule, as did much of the nation. Trying to find one. Guess it's really subjective, and that's completely stretching the truth.

They finally played a somewhat decent team in Michigan State...and...LOST

The best thing that happened to you is that you lost last weekend (been kind of a bad week, eh? Oh wait--I forgot, you have two moral victories) so that you don't look like complete fools playing 12/31 against the big boys.

Face it: Play in the Big 12, and you're 6-6, maybe 7-5.

You clearly don't know what you are talking about so I'm not going to waste any time responding to mindless drivel.

 

[EZ2BJZ]

Best part about all these conversations: Iowa State 83, Iowa 82 FINAL

What amazes me is Iowa State is rated #4 in the country, Iowa is unranked (and most Iowa fans concede that Iowa basketball is still rebuilding), and Iowa State fans are gloating that they won by one point (thanks in part to Iowa's charitable gifts at the end of the game). I just don't understand why beating Iowa is such an obsession with Iowa State fans. After Iowa beat Iowa State in football this year, by the next game Iowa fans moved on.

Come February, Iowa State fans will still be gloating about the one-point beat down they gave Iowa in December. Get a life.

 

[txhawkfan1]

Let's be honest, Iowa State will have a good year this year with Hoiberg's leftovers. But after this year, back to mediocrity. Then what sport will Clone fans turn too?

 

[brokenarrow73]

Just looked again at their schedule, as did much of the nation. Trying to find one. Guess it's really subjective, and that's completely stretching the truth.

They finally played a somewhat decent team in Michigan State...and...LOST

The best thing that happened to you is that you lost last weekend (been kind of a bad week, eh? Oh wait--I forgot, you have two moral victories) so that you don't look like complete fools playing 12/31 against the big boys.

Face it: Play in the Big 12, and you're 6-6, maybe 7-5.

I don't normally post since I was banned in the lickliter era... but this post just irks me when someone posts something so stupid. Best to be thought stupid than post and remove all doubt.

 

[brokenarrow73]

You're exaggerating. The Big 10 hasn't been as bad as it now is for decades. A few years maybe, but not decades.

I bet Nebraska thought they would come into the Big and dominate... I wish Iowa State was in the Big Ten.... so they could see what real football is about.. In the meantime go to your own site please.. PS Iowan would have won your conference this year..

 

[HellaHawk]

KenPom has Iowa ranked #13 and ISU #18. Iowa's luck is #328. ISU's is #92. That, and a more difficult schedule, are the difference between Iowa and ISU this year. Now, perhaps good teams make their own luck.

 

[Makeweight35]

KenPom has Iowa ranked #13 and ISU #18. Iowa's luck is #328. ISU's is #92. That, and a more difficult schedule, are the difference between Iowa and ISU this year. Now, perhaps good teams make their own luck.

While ISU's schedule hasn't been that impressive so far, it will toughen up tremendously. Cincinnati and Texas A&M are both Top 25 teams to round out the non-conference schedule and then round robin in what is looking like an extremely tough Big 12. ISU will find out if they are for real soon enough.

The non-conference to date isn't as bad as some make it out to be. Colorado is 8-1, with their only loss to Iowa State. The best noncon team Iowa has faced in Dayton also lost to Chattanooga (which Iowa State beat by 20), who is expected to win the Southern Conference. Throw in Iowa (who I expect to finish around 4th in the B1G and make the dance) it definitely could be much much weaker.

 

[Lone Clone]

KenPom has Iowa ranked #13 and ISU #18. Iowa's luck is #328. ISU's is #92. That, and a more difficult schedule, are the difference between Iowa and ISU this year. Now, perhaps good teams make their own luck.

I think if ISU's schedule was really all that easy, the Cyclones wouldn't have such a high RPI. They were #1 last week and are in the top 5 this week.

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

I think if ISU's schedule was really all that easy, the Cyclones wouldn't have such a high RPI. They were #1 last week and are in the top 5 this week.

RPI is a deeply flawed and abritrary metric that the tourney committee is moving away from using due to it's obvious flaws.

the WAC abused the RPI a few years back and quickly went 1-5 and saw their way out of the tournament. i think the committee learned its lesson by being fooled by the RPI.

 

[hawkssox1]

I see a lot of threads saying we are not a good team, we are garbage. Not a top 10 team and so on. I assume its because we barely beat Iowa. So my question is this. You guys were arguing to anyone that would listen that your football team is good. They won all the games. Ferentz eve had a quote like "its not gymnastics, the goal is to win, not a syle show but win by 1 point". So how is Iowa State basketball winning and going 8-0 qny different from Iowa Football. I m3an you barely beat Nebraska. You barely beat Iowa State, purdue, and a lot of other teams. So does that mean your football team is not good, garbage, not a top 10 team? Whats the difference?

Hey Andy who do you think you will lose to in the first round this year?

 

[BBHawk]

I see a lot of threads saying we are not a good team, we are garbage. Not a top 10 team and so on. I assume its because we barely beat Iowa. So my question is this. You guys were arguing to anyone that would listen that your football team is good. They won all the games. Ferentz eve had a quote like "its not gymnastics, the goal is to win, not a syle show but win by 1 point". So how is Iowa State basketball winning and going 8-0 qny different from Iowa Football. I m3an you barely beat Nebraska. You barely beat Iowa State, purdue, and a lot of other teams. So does that mean your football team is not good, garbage, not a top 10 team? Whats the difference?

Question for you - do you think that Iowa should still be unranked after having IA State on the ropes in their beloved Hilton, needing all the "magic" that it and a packed house of fans (crazed from eating Little Caesars pizza for 3 days straight) provided in order to beat Iowa? If your answer is yes (as I suspect), then no, Iowa State is not a top 10 team. If you think that Iowa deserves to be ranked then I would say that yes, it is possible that IA State is a top 10 team. But no way should a top 10 team allow an unranked opponent to come in and manhandle them like Iowa did for over 30 minutes, and then barely win.