If you had to pick one, would you say you'd lean more towards you "hope" you're going to win, or you "are" going to win. If it's the latter, what do you base that on? Admittedly, I have not watched much Hawkeye football this year, but it seems that your schedule has been quite soft. Do you base it solely on the fact that we lost to Nebraska and you didn't? If so, I suppose that's a valid reason. But are you concerned at all that MSU has beaten three teams this year that would be favored over Iowa on a neutral field (OSU, UM, Oregon)?
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We've already conceeded that you guys will kick our ass tomorrow! We are overated & a fraud. Good luck in the CFP!
I think the Hawks will win but I know it's going to be very hard. I was hoping the Hawks would get MSU just because I think they match up better with each other and I feel the Hawks have played well against the Spartans in the past.
If Iowa can force some turnovers, keep mistakes to a minimum and get the run game to open up then they win.
If Iowa can force some turnovers, keep mistakes to a minimum and get the run game to open up then they win.
"are going to win" implies arrogance. "hope to win" implies skepticism. "a good chance to win" implies a reality based projection.
Iowa has a good chance to win, and I base that on past performances of both teams.
Iowa has a good chance to win, and I base that on past performances of both teams.
We've been underdogs in 11 of 12 bowl games, but have gone 6-6; so in Iowa we don't really pay much attention to having other teams favored against us.
I'm in the "hope" we're going to win. I'd call it dead-even. And I based that on similar results against common opponents, as well as similar styles and overall results.
One of those teams would be favored over Iowa on a neutral field, OSU. It took a miracle for MSU to beat UM. Yes, Nebraska beat MSU. I could go on and on.
What makes you so confident that MSU will beat Iowa?
I feel strangely confident about Iowa coming in, I surprise myself really.
I don't think many would say we "are going to win." I think it will be a pretty even matchup, meaning the final margin will be 5 points or less.
What makes you say that Oregon would be favored vs. Iowa on a neutral field? Or Michigan for that matter?
I don't think many would say we "are going to win." I think it will be a pretty even matchup, meaning the final margin will be 5 points or less.
What makes you say that Oregon would be favored vs. Iowa on a neutral field? Or Michigan for that matter?
I'm going to enjoy the hell out of this team, just as I have for the past 3 months. If you asked me where I saw potential losses before the season, I'd have given you 4-5 games that I thought would give Iowa problems and probably 3-4 losses, but they've been tough and resilient. They've beaten good teams on the road. They pasted #14 Northwestern by 30 (same team that held mighty Stanford to 6 points).
You seem to think there are only two places to be -- a very timid, non-confident "gee, I hope we can avoid embarrassing ourselves and squeak out a win" and the over-confident "MSU stands no chance". That's garbage. MSU is a very good football team with dangerous weapons. So is Iowa. I'm fully confident that Iowa can go into Saturday feeling good about what they've accomplished, yet still hungry for what's left on the table. I'm confident Iowa can play good football Saturday. MSU will likely also play good football. Both of these teams are good enough to beat anyone on any given Saturday, so I fully expect a good, tough, hard-fought game. As evidenced in the past with this rivalry, the game will probably be decided late when one team makes one more play or creates one more turnover.
I firmly believe Iowa will have every opportunity to win this game and MSU is going to have to play very good football to win. They won't show up to the game ahead by 14 points and be so much better as to just coast out to inevitable victory.
Concern me? Not really...MSU has a solid team. They usually do every year. They've played a good schedule. We've beaten solid programs many times before under Ferentz. LSU/Florida/Georgia Tech/Missouri. Not to mention the Big Ten teams.
With that being said...Didn't Iowa win @ Northwestern 40-10? Didn't Northwestern beat Stanford? Didn't Iowa win @ Wisconsin? Didn't Iowa win @ Nebraska? How did the Spartans fare when they played Nebraska?
We are going to win. We've went into each game with that philosophy.
With that being said...Didn't Iowa win @ Northwestern 40-10? Didn't Northwestern beat Stanford? Didn't Iowa win @ Wisconsin? Didn't Iowa win @ Nebraska? How did the Spartans fare when they played Nebraska?
We are going to win. We've went into each game with that philosophy.
1. UM and Oregon would both be favored over Iowa. I'm not saying they would both best Iowa, but they would be favored (see Iowa only -1.5 in Lincoln).
2. Who said I was confident MSU will win?
3. You're right, I am very confident MSU will win, and it's based on the fact that they're more talented, better coached, and have been in huge games in the past and succeeded. Oh...and Connor Cook.
I believe the Hawks are going to win. They have the best corner in the country, linebackers that are fast and arrive in a bad mood, hard hitting safties, 3 running backs that have had at least 195 yd, 3 td games and two of them have had +200 yd , 4 touchdown games.
The receivers do not drop the ball, the tight ends are very productive.
Last and certainly not least is a qb that seems to have the "it" factor and has never lost a game as a starter.
Why do you think MSU will win?
The receivers do not drop the ball, the tight ends are very productive.
Last and certainly not least is a qb that seems to have the "it" factor and has never lost a game as a starter.
Why do you think MSU will win?
Other than North Texas game I've been in the hope column all year. Nothings changed.
That's the kind of disrespect we've gotten all year. I wonder how confident you were when you played the Debbies?
You honestly think Kirk Ferentz is as good or better of a coach than Mark Dantonio?
Are you actually asking Iowa fans this question? The B1G Coach of the Year? Of course we feel Ferentz is better. Ferentz also holds his players accountable for their actions unlike Dantonio.
4 time B1G coach of the year. (most ever, only behind Bo Schembechler. Remember that guy?)
AP Coach of the year in 2002. Likely this year, especially if they beat MSU tomorrow.
Just look at the NFL talent churned out.
So, when Dantonio achieves those things, let me know pal
1. I think Iowa will win.
2. On a neutral field, Iowa would be favored over Michigan, and probably over Oregon or at least pick-em.
3. Iowa's win at Wisky is as good as MSU's at MeatChicken. Wisky/UM would be a pick em D battle.
4. MSU's win at the Shoe WAS impressive.
5. IMHO, Iowa's 40-10 win at NW was more impressive than MSU's 3 point home win over Oregon.
6. At Nebraska
7. We match up well with MSU, as the teams are built the same. It will be a brutally physical battle, and whoever wins will be as prepared as they can be against likely opponent Bama (same style of play, and Oklahoma will likely drop to #4 to avoid them getting to play a virtual home game in the Cotton)
8. I think CJ is going to enjoy indoor warmth. Cook will light us up some for sure, as he is a fantastic QB. In the end, I think Iowa's ability to run will be the deciding factor. Either way, it will be one hell of a fun game to watch. Here's to a well played, injury free game!
2. On a neutral field, Iowa would be favored over Michigan, and probably over Oregon or at least pick-em.
3. Iowa's win at Wisky is as good as MSU's at MeatChicken. Wisky/UM would be a pick em D battle.
4. MSU's win at the Shoe WAS impressive.
5. IMHO, Iowa's 40-10 win at NW was more impressive than MSU's 3 point home win over Oregon.
6. At Nebraska
7. We match up well with MSU, as the teams are built the same. It will be a brutally physical battle, and whoever wins will be as prepared as they can be against likely opponent Bama (same style of play, and Oklahoma will likely drop to #4 to avoid them getting to play a virtual home game in the Cotton)
8. I think CJ is going to enjoy indoor warmth. Cook will light us up some for sure, as he is a fantastic QB. In the end, I think Iowa's ability to run will be the deciding factor. Either way, it will be one hell of a fun game to watch. Here's to a well played, injury free game!
GMachine....Don't come over here and be an asshole. Makes MSU look bad.
It's gonna be a fist fight. Whoever wins the line of scrimmage will prevail.
I do think Cook being a 1st round pick, is a slight x factor. If MSU can't run the ball, Cook can still throw. Not positive that is the case with Iowa.
But....it's gonna be a close either way.
It's gonna be a fist fight. Whoever wins the line of scrimmage will prevail.
I do think Cook being a 1st round pick, is a slight x factor. If MSU can't run the ball, Cook can still throw. Not positive that is the case with Iowa.
But....it's gonna be a close either way.
You caught some breaks this year as well as Iowa. You played Oregon earlier in the year when they weren't playing well. UM on a fluke and OSU 1 week too early.
I watched the Nebraska game and they lit you up, no fluke. Keep convincing yourself your athletes are way better but if that were the case tOSU should've beat you convincingly.
Uh...yeah!
Do you have any idea how badly the cards are stacked against Iowa? Consider Iowa's 3 million population of primarily rural areas compared to Michigan's 9 million population that includes multiple urban areas. Iowa always - always - has fewer top athletes than nearly any other team in the B1G. To have a 60% winning percentage and to have, counting this year, five top-10 finishes in 15 years is nothing short of astonishing. With talent already lacking we have two offensive linemen that were walk-ons. In Iowa.
You can't have that level of success anywhere without being a very good coach. To have it in Iowa you have to be one of the best coaches in the game.
True of False?
A large portion of Iowa's fanbase wanted KF fired at the end of 2012?
If they are better coached, how did they lose to Nebraska? Michigan in my estimation was the mother of all gifts, and comparison of teams both played doesn't show that MSU to be a world beater. Iowa has been doubted all season, and were happy that Spartan fans are doubting them to. Iowa may win Saturday, they may lose Saturday as I would consider the game a toss up. You realize Nebraska fans were overly confident to after they beat MSU and Iowa had this supposed bad schedule. MSU was impressive against Ohio State, but other then that have seem to be nothing more then above average. BTW....Oregon might be favored to beat Iowa, but didn't a weak scheduled Northwestern beat Stanford, who beat Oregon?
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1) yes, Ferentz is as good and probably a little bit better than Dantonio. Let's see MD achieve the success he's had at MSU in Iowa. It's hard to be successful coaching at Iowa.
2) 4-3 against Dantonio lifetime
3) MSU's at times middling play and Nebraska gaffe shows they are not infallable. I look at MSU as losing to Michigan (fluke to win it) and beating Nebraska (fluke to lose it) - again, not the be all end all season even though you appear to be "hot now" as a team
4) you guys beat an Oregon which hadn't gotten their act together yet at QB, and an OSU whose coaching staff crawled into a shell during the entire game. You can say all you want those games are big wins...but you have to add context to them.
5) Iowa is not scared of MSU. At all.
I like MSU in this game, they are more talented on paper and if they play up to their potential and mistake free, I think they win. But games aren't played on paper, and Iowa can win this game tomorrow, whether MSU fans and the pundits choose to recognize it or not..
2) 4-3 against Dantonio lifetime
3) MSU's at times middling play and Nebraska gaffe shows they are not infallable. I look at MSU as losing to Michigan (fluke to win it) and beating Nebraska (fluke to lose it) - again, not the be all end all season even though you appear to be "hot now" as a team
4) you guys beat an Oregon which hadn't gotten their act together yet at QB, and an OSU whose coaching staff crawled into a shell during the entire game. You can say all you want those games are big wins...but you have to add context to them.
5) Iowa is not scared of MSU. At all.
I like MSU in this game, they are more talented on paper and if they play up to their potential and mistake free, I think they win. But games aren't played on paper, and Iowa can win this game tomorrow, whether MSU fans and the pundits choose to recognize it or not..
We are a sophisticated fan base here in Iowa. We look deeper than simply comparative SOS. For example -
1. Our uniforms are much cooler. I mean, flat green? Is that even a real color?
2. Better nickname. The Spartans got their asses kick in "300". Ours can either be a noble Indian tribe or a majestic bird. No contest.
3. I don't know what your fight song sounds like, but ours is way better. Our fight song has the word Fight in it 9 times. Oh yeah ...
I figure the score to be 100-0, Hawks.
Since you're attempting to change the subject, can I assume you have conceded that KF is likely the better coach?
Change the subject? There isn't one person from the 49 states other than Iowa that think Ferentz is a better coach that Dantonio. No one. I can also say that the MSU fanbase would never call for MD's head. Ever.
So what I'm wondering is, if Ferentz is a better coach than Mark Dantonio, why did most of you want him gone after 2012?
If Tommy Armstrong can throw against MSU, you can be positive that Iowa can to. Our QB is 13-0 as a starter and is very talented. Our 2nd stringer started at Michigan all year.
Iowa's strength of schedule rank is 62. Michigan State's is 53. http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm
With all this strength of schedule talk, you'd think MSU had a top 10 schedule or something.
MSU lost to Nebraska, who sucks. And beat UM on a fluke play.
If you look at common opponents, Iowa has both a better record and a larger margin of victory.
I'm confident Iowa will beat MSU tomorrow. I'd recommend you pull your head out of your a$$ or you just might get kicked in the face by Iowa tomorrow.
Iowa and Michigan State have played Purdue, Indiana, Maryland, and Nebraska with similar results. Comparing the games with those common opponents (and isn't that the best way to predict what's most likely to happen?) tomorrow's game will go down to the wire.
1. MSU has three Top 16 wins...most in the nation. Iowa has one (blow out, so nice win -- UM also blew them out, and we beat them).
2. I won't get kicked in the face by Iowa, as I won't be playing.
Dude, this is ridiculous. You start a nation wide poll and let me know what the results are instead of your opinion. Make sure everyone knows the stats too and not just which school is more popular nationally.
msu is the favored team, rightfully so.
But, they're hardly infallible.
1. Bad loss to nebby.
2. One of the luckiest wins of the year beating scUm.
3. struggled against purdont. At home.
I won't be surprised if msu wins. They're supposed to win, right? Isn't that what it means to be the favorite?
But, it wouldn't be the upset of the century if Iowa won. Not even the biggest upset of this season.
msu is a very good team. They're not invincible.
But, they're hardly infallible.
1. Bad loss to nebby.
2. One of the luckiest wins of the year beating scUm.
3. struggled against purdont. At home.
I won't be surprised if msu wins. They're supposed to win, right? Isn't that what it means to be the favorite?
But, it wouldn't be the upset of the century if Iowa won. Not even the biggest upset of this season.
msu is a very good team. They're not invincible.
What is the head to head record of Ferentz vs Dantonio?
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