Read the Gomez statement. Language and behavior exhibited by those fans directed at Gomez and his family is shameful, independent of what Gomez did or did not do. Have some standards that include decency, even more so in an environment that centers on kids. Ban those fans from the facility.
There is a way to present things. To me, that wasn't it. As soon as he said "fans" he is lumping a bunch into a group and then flinging "poo" at this board.
Have you heard what was said? If so please share with us. As far as I’m aware it’s simply an accusation at this point. This rush to judgment is so sad. Kind of reminds me of the Jussie Smollet deal. Nearly every media outlet rushed to judge everyone on the right. How did that one work out? How about we wait and see what the investigation uncovers?
If @GOHOX69 titled the thread "Iowa's Could Use More Antiracist Fans - if allegation is true" maybe that'd been a more positive and assertive.
Security and EMS did. If I got involved, all that likely would have happened was another guy ending up on the ground and myself either in jail or the hospital.
Sounds like you are adding an accusation of your own. Jussie Smollet was found guilty of committing a felony.
Then you have issues with reading comprehension. Not at all what I typed. The rush to judgment without facts is similar. I didn’t type or even insinuate that Gomez is lying. I simply said we don’t know yet. Good grief.
Does treating some one as guilty before proof count as "boorish behavior"? Or is innocent until proven guilty irrelevant for racist/sexual allegations against white males? Wokeism is racist and intolerant hypocrisy .
I didn’t read the statement but I stand by two things: First, Gomez acted poorly after his match, that’s on him. Second, if the allegations are true that’s on that fan and no one wants them around.
How would any fan know that a girl and her mother were Gomez's family? To me that tells me they were probably being extra emotional watching a crowd of 14k boo their son/brother. I'd imagine they lashed out around them, and received lashings in turn.
Not at all. You used a bad comparison. You compared it to a case where a guy planned and executed a fraud.
The Gomez family can certainly be supportive of their family and I agree having an entire arena "boo" your son can be pretty unnerving.
I am not treating anyone as guilty as none have been identified and evidence is lacking. I was speaking generally of no longer putting up with "boorish behavior." The times I speak of are the times of today's youngest generations. I don't know whether they'd refer to this discussion in terms of "wokeism."
I doubt this grate country ever makes stupidity a crime. Besides, Iowa man has NOTHING on Florida man.
You think jails are overcrowded now?
Once again, this statement does not say anything about was was claimed. There is no video that does either!
I am not sure that what was said here is not racist? "some old drunk white guy"???? Unless they have identified some old drunk white guy??? Why isn't everyone up in arms about this???? You all say you want to end racism, but it has to be both or all ways!!! As long as it is OK to say what you want and attack white people or any other, then it never ends.
Again, this is alleged.
Except no one outside of Ames CC knows wrestling exists at ISU.
I compared the reaction. I didn’t compare the events. I said the rush to judgment was similar. I truly can not understand why this is so difficult for you. Just silly.
That’s not true. Please don’t help spread lies. I saw the tweet. He said he wouldn’t release the audio or video which is strange by itself but furthermore he never said in his tweet that anything racial was said. He said horrible things were said which I think is a given.
As an old white guy, albeit sober with an alibi, I ignored the speculation about "some old drunk white guy."
I really can’t wrap my head around anyone drunk or sober being that mad at Star after that match, that they’d throw something at him. He wrestled his ass off in that match. Two warriors did battle and left everything they had on the mat. Unfortunately the guy in the silly looking blue singlet with the white stripe on it got his hand raised at the end.
I find it strange you would say “And hell you won the meet and it wasn’t close.”
Unfortunately, it's also becoming far too common that a claim such as this is false and made in an attempt to hide something else. Like a certain wrestler chirping and acting like an ass hat? When everyone is screaming, seems hard to me to be able to decipher a specific comment. If it was made when relatively quiet, it should be pretty easy to locate the person. Dozens of others would have heard it and the location in the stands easy to pinpoint. One way or another, I hope the truth comes out.
If you have zero context on who hawkgasser is then I don’t know what to tell you except you’re out of your element donny. Hoping that one doesn’t fly over your dome too.
I disagree very much. In the age of NIL money, the more drama the better for Gomez. Attention and clicks equals money. One of the unspoken tenets of wokeism is "the victim is the most powerful person in the room".
