Hell, they parked their big fat asses on the other side of the scale and nary a peep.They have had their foot on the scale for white people for more than two centuries. But that's obviously fine by you.
Hell, they parked their big fat asses on the other side of the scale and nary a peep.They have had their foot on the scale for white people for more than two centuries. But that's obviously fine by you.
And it's not exactly off the scale, either. It's insanity. The stats on wealth concentration/consolidation over the last fifty years are undeniable and sure as shit tell us whose feet are on the scale—feet well-served, pedicured, if you will, by op ed writers like the one in the OP, can't be bothered to read beyond the dumbass op ed, can't find the bill itself and do a find for the word "minority" to maybe find the section(s) related to this dumbass op ed's argument.They have had their foot on the scale for white people for more than two centuries. But that's obviously fine by you.
I want to know what it is they're REALLY afraid of. It can't be favoritism exhibited by the govt...that's just a bullshit excuse because they've benefited their entire lives. So what is it?And it's not exactly off the scale, either. It's insanity. The stats on wealth concentration/consolidation over the last fifty years are undeniable and sure as shit tell us whose feet are on the scale—feet well-served, pedicured, if you will, by op ed writers like the one in the OP.
But that's Trad's siren song.
The "answers" to our complex predicaments are also complex, and inherently imperfect. What has absolutely no part in actually resolving any issues in this country is ignorance, in choosing dumb appeals because they're easy and they taste good. Trad will spend hours of research and hours of prep to make some meat taste good, but can't be bothered to read something better than the shit he linked in his OP.
But that's America.
Please. The Race Card has been a favorite game for decades.
Why does it always have to be about race?
I guess the race card only works the other way? Good to know....
Why does everything have to be about race with you people?
So, if you listen to the mainstream media (especially NPR), race is the underlying factor for everything.
I'm really sick of the "race" thing in EVERY news story and conversation. When does it end?
Why is EVERYTHING about race on this board?
Oh, bullcrap. NPR can't run a story without getting into race
Dude. Listen to NPR for one entire day. The racial crap gets discussed over and over and over again.
What wealth they accumulated has been stolen time and again and that theft was sanctioned by the govt.
And then there will be talk of reperations 100 years later?Well, now some folks might have a tiny hint of what it felt like to be black in the 30's and 40's.
And 50's.
And 60's.
And 70's......
My amateur-psychologist ass thinks about pride. Prideful people love to talk about merit, meritocracy, about "earning" everything they've accumulated, be it wealth or status or whatever. There are people for whom their "achievements" are deeply central to their sense of self-value. And this is entirely understandable, especially in a status- and wealth- and consumerist-obsessed society.I want to know what it is they're REALLY afraid of. It can't be favoritism exhibited by the govt...that's just a bullshit excuse because they've benefited their entire lives. So what is it?
Lol.And then there will be talk of reperations 100 years later?
At what point does "two wrongs dont make a right" come into play?
This is ****ing stupid.
Who went to jail for Tulsa? Wilmington, NC? Rosewood, FL? Freedom, GA? Where were the authorities when white mobs massacred blacks and destroyed their property?Can I have some examples please? Not trying to argue honestly.
I get so damn tired of hearing this. Maybe if you looked at dealing with the fallout of our racist govt policies of the past as a duty rather than a "wrong" you could get past it. Trying to fix something that was wrong really and truly doesn't make the fix a wrong.At what point does "two wrongs dont make a right" come into play?
Um. That's hard. It's also likely disaffirming. We don't like hard. And we DEFINITELY don't like disaffirming.I get so damn tired of hearing this. Maybe if you looked at dealing with the fallout of our racist govt policies of the past as a duty rather than a "wrong" you could get past it. Trying to fix something that was wrong really and truly doesn't make the fix a wrong.
By fixing it with something that will inevitably make more victims down the line....I get so damn tired of hearing this. Maybe if you looked at dealing with the fallout of our racist govt policies of the past as a duty rather than a "wrong" you could get past it. Trying to fix something that was wrong really and truly doesn't make the fix a wrong.
Who went to jail for Tulsa? Wilmington, NC? Rosewood, FL? Freedom, GA? Where were the authorities when white mobs massacred blacks and destroyed their property?
From the Wayback Machine - Pre-Civil War there was a thriving free-black community in NYC called Seneca Village - the largest group of free black land owners in the country. They were forced off their property that they owned outright. They were "compensated" under imminent domain but it does make one wonder - why THAT land? Where Seneca Village once stood you now have Central Park. Imagine the value of that property today had it remained in their hands. At least they didn't drive them off with violence so that's something.
Always interesting when and where one becomes concerned about the (potential) "victims".By fixing it with something that will inevitably make more victims down the line....
I have no problem acknowledging past wrong doings and have been very vocal that some form of reperations are needed. What I hate is that it is all a swinging narrative of who has been wrong done by and constant creation of victims.Always interesting when and where one becomes concerned about the (potential) "victims".
Who's a "victim"? The companies that don't get a contract THIS time? I think we found your problem.By fixing it with something that will inevitably make more victims down the line....
Google redlining as a start.Can I have some examples please? Not trying to argue honestly.
I dont understand what you are going for?Who's a "victim"? The companies that don't get a contract THIS time? I think we found your problem.
So you're okay with focusing infrastructure spending in urban corridors on redesigning or even removing highways that were explicitly designed to segregate the black community? Even if it occurred fifty years ago?I have no problem acknowledging past wrong doings and have been very vocal that some form of reperations are needed. What I hate is that it is all a swinging narrative of who has been wrong done by and constant creation of victims.
Then stop acting like a victim. Read the bill. Research what's behind the language the author of the OP's weak ass op ed is calling "racist". And then, if you're still all up in arms about this, maybe point us to some ideas you think are better towards addressing some of the issues. I mean, how in the ƒuck do you, in one breath, suggest interest in some form of reparations, while, driven-by-ignorance next-breath, get all worried about "creation of victims".I have no problem acknowledging past wrong doings and have been very vocal that some form of reperations are needed. What I hate is that it is all a swinging narrative of who has been wrong done by and constant creation of victims.
There will always be an example in the past of unfairness and doing dumb shit like this will give the people of the future something in the past to point at.So you're okay with focusing infrastructure spending in urban corridors on redesigning or even removing highways that were explicitly designed to segregate the black community? Even if it occurred fifty years ago?
Google redlining as a start.
Dude sometimes you have normal conversations and sometimes you go full pisspants. Wherethe **** have I, wddt, in any ****ing way acted like a victim in this thread? Im saying i hate the victimhood mentality this will continue. Quit being a bitch and get your shit together Rudy.Then stop acting like a victim. Read the bill. Research what's behind the language the author of the OP's weak ass op ed is calling "racist". And then, if you're still all up in arms about this, maybe point us to some ideas you think are better towards addressing some of the issues. I mean, how in the ƒuck do you, in one breath, suggest interest in some form of reparations, while, driven-by-ignorance next-breath, get all worried about "creation of victims".
Starting to think this is asking too much, but whatever, surprise me.
So you're okay with focusing infrastructure spending in urban corridors on redesigning or even removing highways that were explicitly designed to segregate the black community? Even if it occurred fifty years ago?
Perhaps blockbusting is more your speed.Looks like this involves segregation. Not seeing anything regarding land that was stolen.
I'd tell Billy Joe that maybe he should have thought about that when his black competitors weren't allowed to raise their hands at all and he remained silent. Not just silent but fully supported it because it was "good fir bidness". I'd tell Billy Joe he got lots of jobs...and loans...and wealth..."simply due to skin color" so he might want to STFU.I dont understand what you are going for?
Do you think Billy Joe contractor isnt going to raise his hand about unfairness when his business gets passed over simply due to skin color? This is ****ing stupid and you know it.
Because Billy should pay for the sins of some butt**** he didnt know 100 years ago..... you are a pisspants.I'd tell Billy Joe that maybe he should have thought about that when his black competitors weren't allowed to raise their hands at all and he remained silent. Not just silent but fully supported it because it was "good fir bidness". I'd tell Billy Joe he got lots of jobs...and loans...and wealth..."simply due to skin color" so he might want to STFU.
Lol. You're acting like a victim to policy aimed at attempting to address the wrongs you claim to be interested in somehow addressing. Victim to "****ing stupid" policy ideas.Dude sometimes you have normal conversations and sometimes you go full pisspants. Wherethe **** have I, wddt, in any ****ing way acted like a victim in this thread? Quit being a bitch and get your shit together Rudy.
It was wealth that was stolen. How do you build wealth if you can't buy a house or start a business because you are officially barred from getting a loan?Looks like this involves segregation. Not seeing anything regarding land that was stolen.
LOL...100 years ago? I think we found another of your problems.Because Billy should pay for the sins of some butt**** he didnt know 100 years ago..... you are a pisspants.
whiskey is certainly on board with addressing the wrongs of the past. He just doesn't want to actually do anything about them.Lol. You're acting like a victim to policy aimed at attempting to address the wrongs you claim to be interested in somehow addressing. Victim to "****ing stupid" policy ideas.
Of course, it does not appear that you have read the bill, thus we're now victim to your laziness and ignorance, your preference for emotion over pragmatic research and investigation.
I mean, look at you, dropped a pisspants in there! I love it.
Not once have I in anyway claimed to be a victim and have been very clear that this will only continue a pisspant victim mentality. Rudy, I fear I gave your intelligence too much credit.Lol. You're acting like a victim to policy aimed at attempting to address the wrongs you claim to be interested in somehow addressing. Victim to "****ing stupid" policy ideas.
Of course, it does not appear that you have read the bill, thus we're now victim to your laziness and ignorance, your preference for emotion over pragmatic research and investigation.
I mean, look at you, dropped a pisspants in there! I love it.
Perhaps blockbusting is more your speed.
Gota drive to extremes and get hyperbolic, you know, otherwise, well, shit, maybe the argument isn't so strong.LOL...100 years ago? I think we found another of your problems.