So, if it is disruptive on 3rd downs, why don't we mix it up and run more of it on 1st or 2nd down?
Raider pkg on 3rd down ??
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It's designed for passing situations. It doesn't work well versus the run.
Queston about the raider - when I see it I see a bunch of guys up near the line and it looks like everyone on the outside is singled up. So what stops a team from just running receivers on deep routes when they see it and just throwing over the top of it
There is usually a safety lurking off of the screen. I don't think I've ever seen all 11 defenders at the LOS.
But then that would be cover 1, so the safety wouldn't be able to help on every receiver right?
Obviously we haven't really been burned this way since we've been doing the raider so it obviously works, I'm just trying to figure out how.
What's interesting is that we, including myself applaud Iowa when the Raider package is deployed and successful! However, by situation, it is only brought out on 3rd down and probably 7+ yards to go, which offenses traditionally only convert about 35% of the time so is it really the Raider or 3rd down and longs are tough to convert. Probably a little bit of both!
Its mainly meant to the QB to hurry their throw. I think I heard the D coordinator say its more about hurrying up the qb and getting them to "make a mistake" than it is about sacks.
I liked the raider package and was surprised that we saw it the for the first time in game #4. Think we would of ran it earlier.
I liked the raider package and was surprised that we saw it the for the first time in game #4. Think we would of ran it earlier.
Yep, I'm all for different looks vs. the base 4-3 and maybe some nickel sprinkled in. Raider just gives the offense something new to look at, although vs. a speed-spread team like NW, it opens up middle running lanes as the DE/LB rush hard to the outside opening up the middle and we all know we don't need any more issues up the middle.
A couple reasons why Iowa typically doesn't get beat deep in the Raider package:
- Typically have 2 deep safeties.
- Reigning Thorpe Award winner taking away the WR1.
- Deep routes take time to develop. The Raider package is all about getting after the QB.
Yes, particularly that last part. They tend to get to the QB very quickly in this stance, because they are already one step move wise ahead of the O-line.
And Iowa was only bringing 3 rushers most of the Rutgers game out of that package. Leaves 8 guys in coverage
I have included this link before. It was actually designed as the Radar package and morphed to Raider package as used by Iowa (probably pronounced incorrectly). It's a basic explanation with some pictures. For those who think it is new, it was developed in the 1970s by a coach named Jules Yakapovich.
http://insidethepylon.com/football-101/glossary-football-101/2016/02/23/itp-glossary-radar-defense/
Created to attack option and single-wing offenses, the defense puts all 11 defenders in a standing position, including the linemen. The defensive players along the offensive line align in gaps, and rather than attacking forward at the snap they move laterally and read the flow of the offensive line. In recent years, this defense has been used to attack the Wildcat, as well as standard offenses in the passing game by creating confusion up front.
http://insidethepylon.com/football-101/glossary-football-101/2016/02/23/itp-glossary-radar-defense/
Created to attack option and single-wing offenses, the defense puts all 11 defenders in a standing position, including the linemen. The defensive players along the offensive line align in gaps, and rather than attacking forward at the snap they move laterally and read the flow of the offensive line. In recent years, this defense has been used to attack the Wildcat, as well as standard offenses in the passing game by creating confusion up front.
Raider or 3rd down and longs are tough to convert. Probably a little bit of both![/QUOTE]
What I think is successful about the raider is that often we get pressure with only three or four rushing the passer. I think the OL gets confused with blocking assignments combined with some stunts and we are still able to leave multiple DBs in coverage. It seems to be working well.
What I think is successful about the raider is that often we get pressure with only three or four rushing the passer. I think the OL gets confused with blocking assignments combined with some stunts and we are still able to leave multiple DBs in coverage. It seems to be working well.
The raider was 4/5 on Saturday. The throw was a perfect toss from that QB (who missed several open guys all day). So I chalk that up to a player making 1 play.
I hope we see it more this weekend and get Thorsen hurried into making some bad plays.
I hope we see it more this weekend and get Thorsen hurried into making some bad plays.
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