reason 1,143 why homeschooling is dumb and they know it

[Bulldogs1974]

Iowa HF 888
a bill that would allow homeschool children:
-no cap on kids that could be taught by an unqualified/nonrelated person
-allows any tom dick or harry to say a kid graduated hs with no evidence (no evidence is a big deal for republicans, kind of like private school don't need to provide evidence of learning that you paid for)
Finally and just plain wrong and odd
-remove the requirement to teach science and social studies before 7th grade. Because republicans hate the though of little johnny learning about other people and knowing stuff.

 

[jonesy5960]

Iowa HF 888
a bill that would allow homeschool children:
-no cap on kids that could be taught by an unqualified/nonrelated person
-allows any tom dick or harry to say a kid graduated hs with no evidence (no evidence is a big deal for republicans, kind of like private school don't need to provide evidence of learning that you paid for)
Finally and just plain wrong and odd
-remove the requirement to teach science and social studies before 7th grade. Because republicans hate the though of little johnny learning about other people and knowing stuff.

I'm pretty sure most homeschooling is performed by Trump voters so... Mission Accomplished!

 

[Bonerfarts]

Iowa HF 888
a bill that would allow homeschool children:
-no cap on kids that could be taught by an unqualified/nonrelated person
-allows any tom dick or harry to say a kid graduated hs with no evidence (no evidence is a big deal for republicans, kind of like private school don't need to provide evidence of learning that you paid for)
Finally and just plain wrong and odd
-remove the requirement to teach science and social studies before 7th grade. Because republicans hate the though of little johnny learning about other people and knowing stuff.

Gotta create Republican voters early before books and learning get to them.

 

[Bulldogs1974]

for the "well I know a family" crowd. For every kid you "know about" there are 2-3 that know very little information (even compared to low end school kids) and some that have parents/guardians that are abusing them. There is a reason some what to hide their child.

 

[Hoosierhawkeye]

I am not against hone schooling in and of itself but there has to be standards and a way the state can check and make sure the kid is learning the material.

 

[MitchLL]

Home schooling is done by fragile, fearful, narrow minded people.

Think slightly advanced Amish!

 

[Bulldogs1974]

I am not against hone schooling in and of itself but there has to be standards and a way the state can check and make sure the kid is learning the material.

this.
You kid should have to be seen in public once in awhile and they should have to take a test 1 to 2 times a year.
Prove that you are doing what you are supposed to be doing.

 

[Bulldogs1974]

i'd say the same for private schools.
If you want public money.
1. tuition must be the same as public schools, you can't pick and choose your kids
2. let them all enroll, IEP, low income etc
3. take the same tests/accountability

why is it that private schools won't do that?

 

[Tiny Hands Trump]

World needs ditch diggers too.

 

[ISUBryce]

If people want to homeschool their kids, that's totally fine. One of my best friends was home schooled and he's cooler than any of us.

Where I do draw the line is if you want public money, you need to show results. There is just no way around that.

 

[SI_NYC]

Iowa HF 888
a bill that would allow homeschool children:
-no cap on kids that could be taught by an unqualified/nonrelated person
-allows any tom dick or harry to say a kid graduated hs with no evidence (no evidence is a big deal for republicans, kind of like private school don't need to provide evidence of learning that you paid for)
Finally and just plain wrong and odd
-remove the requirement to teach science and social studies before 7th grade. Because republicans hate the though of little johnny learning about other people and knowing stuff.

Homeschooling has the potential to surpass public education when led by a knowledgeable and well-educated teacher. However, the challenge is that many homeschooled children are taught by parents more interested in pushing misguided beliefs than providing a well-rounded education.

 

[Menace Sockeyes]

Homeschoolers typically have idiots for teachers.

 

[stickman80]

One of my best friends was home schooled and he's cooler than any of us.

Even a broken clock is right 3 times a day.

Signed,
Homeschooled.

 

[abby97]

Iowa HF 888
a bill that would allow homeschool children:
-no cap on kids that could be taught by an unqualified/nonrelated person
-allows any tom dick or harry to say a kid graduated hs with no evidence (no evidence is a big deal for republicans, kind of like private school don't need to provide evidence of learning that you paid for)
Finally and just plain wrong and odd
-remove the requirement to teach science and social studies before 7th grade. Because republicans hate the though of little johnny learning about other people and knowing stuff.

When the public schools can improve on their current success rates of only 30% of students reading at grade level or about 28% doing math at grade level, then you can talk, until then, maybe you public teachers need to stick to your own knitting.

 

[QChawks]

at least you don't have to worry about teachers banging students

 

[stickman80]

at least you don't have to worry about teachers banging students

Don'tbe too sure about that.

 

[abby97]

Homeschooling has the potential to surpass public education when led by a knowledgeable and well-educated teacher. However, the challenge is that many homeschooled children are taught by parents TEACHERS more interested in pushing misguided beliefs than providing a well-rounded education.

Substitute the word "teachers" where is says "parents" and you have our current public education problem.

 

[Bulldogs1974]

When the public schools can improve on their current success rates of only 30% of students reading at grade level or about 28% doing math at grade level, then you can talk, until then, maybe you public teachers need to stick to your own knitting.

1. prove those statistics correct
2. Now show me that statistics from all homeschooled kids and how they test. You don't have them and will never find them, they do not exist. The homeschool data you will find is for kids that take the ACt or SAT, this is not the majority of homeschooled kids. Most homeschoolers today are social misfits of parents that think it's ok that a computer babysit their kid online. The majority of homeschool kids will not take a standardized test for comparison.
link
Use this link to show me where you are getting these numbers....Tell me how pella christian is doing or the lady on the other side of my town that lives in a trailer and has a felon living with her that doesn't send her kids to school because they "online homeschool".
It's amazing that abby is for letting child abusers and child predators homeschool.

 

[Colonoscopy]

Even a broken clock is right 3 times a day.

Signed,
Homeschooled.

I was homeschooled

 

[stickman80]

I was homeschooled

You're missing the point. The broken clock is right twice a day. It's wrong a lot more than right and if a financial incentive is given to keep your "yung uns" at home and home school.... it will be even worse the number of kids who really need professional teachers but their six toed mom keeps them at home for the money.

 

[Tom Paris]

When the public schools can improve on their current success rates of only 30% of students reading at grade level or about 28% doing math at grade level, then you can talk, until then, maybe you public teachers need to stick to your own knitting.

Idiot who knows nothing about public education once again chimes in. Go volunteer in some schools for a few weeks at a time and then tell me it's the fault of the people you LOVE to blame.

 

[Colonoscopy]

You're missing the point. The broken clock is right twice a day. It's wrong a lot more than right and if a financial incentive is given to keep your "yung uns" at home and home school.... it will be even worse the number of kids who really need professional teachers but their six toed mom keeps them at home for the money.

I understand the point you were making.

I think most of you are a bit ignorant on this topic. Well... schooling in general.

From this perspective: has much less impact on how someone "turns out" than you'd think.

Lots more to do with intrinsic abilities possessed by the individual than most imagine.

 

[NDallasRuss]

Homeschooling has the potential to surpass public education when led by a knowledgeable and well-educated teacher. However, the challenge is that many homeschooled children are taught by parents more interested in pushing misguided beliefs than providing a well-rounded education.

When I was living in Virginia I knew two distinct groups of homeschoolers:

1. There was a local consortium of parents that homeschooled their kids like a co-op. Parents had advanced degrees and would take turns teaching the group of kids in their respective areas of expertise. Those kids were high-performing.

2. We knew a family (friend of the MsNDallas and her family) on the West Virginia side, who home schooled their kids as a way of not having to take their kids to school. The parents may or may not have had HS diplomas, but were certainly not qualified to teach other people anything of substance. These kids are/were doomed to perpetuate their parents' cycle of poverty and generally being a blight on society. They bought a small but new-build home, and in no time had holes in the floors the walls, etc. The one daughter got old enough to move out, so she got herself a WT neck-tattoed fella and a yard full of pit bulls. I wasn't there, but I heard she was smoking wed at her kid's birthday party. THESE are the people who should not be allowed to have children, let along try and teach them anything.

 

[joelbc1]

Iowa HF 888
a bill that would allow homeschool children:
-no cap on kids that could be taught by an unqualified/nonrelated person
-allows any tom dick or harry to say a kid graduated hs with no evidence (no evidence is a big deal for republicans, kind of like private school don't need to provide evidence of learning that you paid for)
Finally and just plain wrong and odd
-remove the requirement to teach science and social studies before 7th grade. Because republicans hate the though of little johnny learning about other people and knowing stuff.

All in the name of “parental rights”!
Iowa Republicans created and raised this “issue” to new heights the past 20 years. In combination with “the Family Leader” evangelicals they have attacked “public schools” ( primarily by using underfunding tactics), gifting tax money to private schools and allowing “homeschooling” to go largely unmonitored.
Most reasonable folks understand that such parental abuse is not healthy for the child but “spare the rod, spoil the child” thinking is popular with these folks…and these folks vote for politicians.
Iowa is slowly dry-humping itself to death by slowly strangling its youth not by depriving them of oxygen but denying them the breath of knowledge.
May God have Mercy on all of us.

 

[Colonoscopy]

When I was living in Virginia I knew two distinct groups of homeschoolers:

1. There was a local consortium of parents that homeschooled their kids like a co-op. Parents had advanced degrees and would take turns teaching the group of kids in their respective areas of expertise. This kids were high-performing.

2. We knew a family (friend of the MsNDallas and her family) on the West Virginia side, who home schooled their kids as a way of not having to take their kids to school. The parents may or may not have had HS diplomas, but were certainly not qualified to teach other people anything of substance. These kids are/were doomed to perpetuate their parents' cycle of poverty and generally being a blight on society. They bought a small but new-build home, and in no time had holes in the floors the walls, etc. The one daughter got old enough to move out, so she got herself a WT neck-tattoed fella and a yard full of pit bulls. I wasn't there, but I heard she was smoking wed at her kid's birthday party. THESE are the people who should not be allowed to have children, let along try and teach them anything.

High performing parents tend to have high performing kids. Who'd of thunk it.

 

[jasonrann]

I am not against home schooling as long as they're also teaching them to be kids and not potatoes.

 

[ISUBryce]

When the public schools can improve on their current success rates of only 30% of students reading at grade level or about 28% doing math at grade level, then you can talk, until then, maybe you public teachers need to stick to your own knitting.

The next time you post stats or numbers that are correct will be the first time.

 

[Colonoscopy]

2. We knew a family (friend of the MsNDallas and her family) on the West Virginia side, who home schooled their kids as a way of not having to take their kids to school. The parents may or may not have had HS diplomas, but were certainly not qualified to teach other people anything of substance. These kids are/were doomed to perpetuate their parents' cycle of poverty and generally being a blight on society. They bought a small but new-build home, and in no time had holes in the floors the walls, etc. The one daughter got old enough to move out, so she got herself a WT neck-tattoed fella and a yard full of pit bulls. I wasn't there, but I heard she was smoking wed at her kid's birthday party. THESE are the people who should not be allowed to have children, let along try and teach them anything.

I agree that the parents in 2 shouldn't be homeschooling.

But that doesn't mean that the kids belonging to 2 would turn out like the kids belonging to 1. (but for better schooling)

Schooling isn't any great determiner of this outcome.

 

[beanerhawk]

at least you don't have to worry about teachers banging students

You've seen step mom porn you know how this works!!

 

[lucas80]

World needs ditch diggers too.

The parents of a lot of the girls that this bill will target just want them to turn into baby makers.

 

[NDallasRuss]

I agree that the parents in 2 shouldn't be homeschooling.

But that doesn't mean that the kids belonging to 2 would turn out like the kids belonging to 1. (but for better schooling)

Schooling isn't any great determiner of this outcome.

In general I agree. In this particular case their second-oldest was able to get out. He was accepted into the Milton Hershey School in PA. They take in kids that don't have much of a chance, and give them a stable environment, education, room and board, etc. This kid ended up graduating and going on to college. His younger siblings were not as lucky, as their mom was scared of losing them too, so she kept them at home - rather than giving them the same chance at success.

 

[Colonoscopy]

In general I agree. In this particular case their second-oldest was able to get out. He was accepted into the Milton Hershey School in PA. They take in kids that don't have much of a chance, and give them a stable environment, education, room and board, etc. This kid ended up graduating and going on to college. His younger siblings were not as lucky, as their mom was scared of losing them too, so she kept them at home - rather than giving them the same chance at success.

Yeah, from the unstable home perspective, public school definitely offers some opportunities.

 

[abby97]

Idiot who knows nothing about public education once again chimes in. Go volunteer in some schools for a few weeks at a time and then tell me it's the fault of the people you LOVE to blame.

I'm not saying it is an easy profession or all evils originate with teachers, but I see no reason to not to see if private schools can do a better job.

 

[EagleHawk]

I worked with a very liberal lady who was 'un-schooling' her son. Whatever he wanted to learn about, he could learn on YouTube as he saw fit. He should be a junior now, I wonder how that is working out for them.

 

[Tom Paris]

I'm not saying it is an easy profession or all evils originate with teachers, but I see no reason to not to see if private schools can do a better job.

Private can’t do a better job if they get the kids they REALLY don’t want to take. If you ban all kids with IEPs from public schools, test scores will go up. That’s been one of our main arguments. Also, our tax dollars will go to kids in 2 parent homes who can already afford it. Poor kids from rough neighborhoods aren’t getting the opportunity to go private. It’s a scam of your tax dollars. Basically we are paying for the college tuitions of well off families. If you were against student loan payoffs you HAVE to be against this.

 

[win1forthe]

Iowa HF 888
a bill that would allow homeschool children:
-no cap on kids that could be taught by an unqualified/nonrelated person
-allows any tom dick or harry to say a kid graduated hs with no evidence (no evidence is a big deal for republicans, kind of like private school don't need to provide evidence of learning that you paid for)
Finally and just plain wrong and odd
-remove the requirement to teach science and social studies before 7th grade. Because republicans hate the though of little johnny learning about other people and knowing stuff.

I remember when Iowa valued education. Now they just worship a fat narcissist

 

[Bulldogs1974]

I'm not saying it is an easy profession or all evils originate with teachers, but I see no reason to not to see if private schools can do a better job.

If you really thought this you would have the expectation private schools take all kids and test them in the same manner public schools do.

 

[tarheelbybirth]

I understand the point you were making.

I think most of you are a bit ignorant on this topic. Well... schooling in general.

From this perspective: has much less impact on how someone "turns out" than you'd think.

Lots more to do with intrinsic abilities possessed by the individual than most imagine.

Which is why in study after study, there is zero difference in outcomes for public versus private school children when socioeconomic data is controlled. So why are we giving public money to private schools? Whose pockets is that money going into?

 

[HawkeyeShawn]

When you hear that someone home schools, the red flag goes up. I already know I want nothing to do with that family.