REBOUNDING!!! On Dec 21: IOWA Ranked #326 out of 364 D1 Teams in Rebounding Margin. 20 Second Chance Pts & 46-34 Reb. Margin for Clown U

[Franisdaman]

Dec 21 Update (before the Utah game):

I went to see just how bad Iowa's rebounding currently is. What follows INCLUDES last night's games.

NOTE below that Utah (+8) is a good rebounding team.

Also check out below how good Drake (+9) is.

IOWA (-4) is currently ranked #326 out of 364 D1 teams in rebounding margin.

Rebound Margin Rankings:

+13: BYU, Idaho State (these 2 teams lead the nation)

Other notables:

+12: Michigan State (#4 in the nation)

+11: Illinois (#8 in the nation)

+9: Drake (#18 in the nation)

+8: Utah State (#23 in the nation)

+8: Utah (#32 in the nation)

+6: Iowa State (#56 in the nation)

+5: Michigan (#91 in the nation)

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-4: IOWA (#326 in the nation)


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Original Post:


20 Clown second chance points tonight off 18 Clown offensive rebounds.

100% unacceptable, but it's the same sh*tty lack of rebounding, different game.

The Clowns win 89-80 after Iowa had led for 33:28 of the game (the game was tied for 3:27).

Iowa led by 13 points in the first half (39-26 with 4:09 to go) but blow the opportunity.

 

[Legs94]

Honestly, we’ve known rebounding has been a problem the entire season. We’ve had nine games to fix it and it’s only getting worse. That is a true reflection of coaching. And that just speaks to the entire tenure of Fran. It’s time to move on

 

[QChawks]

I was really hoping Dembele could be that rebounding guy we need

He just isn’t good

 

[Franisdaman]

Honestly, we’ve known rebounding has been a problem the entire season. We’ve had nine games to fix it and it’s only getting worse. That is a true reflection of coaching. And that just speaks to the entire tenure of Fran. It’s time to move on

Yep. We've been piss poor at rebounding ever since Fran arrived in Iowa City in 2010.

 

[Heathen Raider]

COACHING AND RECRUITING

 

[ClarindaA's]

****ing officials really turned the tide on a bad out of bounds call too. But yes, we are soft as butter on picnic table in August.

 

[bansheexyz]

Some of it is them being able to outjump us, and some is just bad luck. When they missed it was bouncing hard back to them.

 

[bansheexyz]

****ing officials really turned the tide on a bad out of bounds call too. But yes, we are soft as butter on picnic table in August.

That missed call was a free 3 for them, and brock's spin move turnover was a 5 point swing. Iowa likely wins if those don't happen.

 

[ClarindaA's]

That missed call was a free 3 for them, and brock's spin move turnover was a 5 point swing. Iowa likely wins if those don't happen.

I told my wife when we were up by 5 but fading, we were going to list by 10…was close

 

[Heathen Raider]

That missed call was a free 3 for them, and brock's spin move turnover was a 5 point swing. Iowa likely wins if those don't happen.

Iowa wins if Fran goes zone and they rebound

 

[Buffalo43]

Ball watching versus blocking out its what kids do now

 

[HawkBall23]

15 years, and the rebounding effort - or let's face it, the lack thereof - is still the same.

Its insane that a coach thinks he can keep doing that, let the other team get boat loads of points off 2nd/3rd/4th+ chances but still be extremely competitive all year long and vs teams that will seriously make you pay for that mindset.


They may coach different sports, but Fran and Kirk are way too similar in some respects.

"My way works, not changing a thing!"

 

[Buffalo43]

Iowa wins if Fran goes zone and they rebound

Brock cant spin like he is in high school

 

[ICWestfan]

That missed call was a free 3 for them, and brock's spin move turnover was a 5 point swing. Iowa likely wins if those don't happen.

Freeman at the line 78-78 and he bricks both. Ball game.

 

[QChawks]

Freeman at the line 78-78 and he bricks both. Ball game.

For me, it was the turnover right after that is when I knew it was game over

 

[Franisdaman]

COACHING AND RECRUITING

100% coaching.

You don't box out? You sit your ass on the bench.

 

[RocknRollface]

Sandfort at the 4 puts Iowa at a disadvantage on the boards but he's worse at the 3 because he can't guard anybody.

He needs less minutes. Traore needs more.

 

[Franisdaman]

Sandfort at the 4 puts Iowa at a disadvantage on the boards but he's worse at the 3 because he can't guard anybody.

He needs less minutes. Traore needs more.

Dembele looked good off the bench

I hope Traore is close to 100%; he played just 14 minutes tonight

 

[ShawneeHawk 1]

Watching the lack of rebounding is tough on us who remember the Hawks being one of the best rebounding margin teams in the nation. The curse of Dr. Tom....

 

[DewHawk]

Lack of rebounding is just coaching incompetence by McCaffery. He is long past needing to go. Iowa will never be worth a **** with him as the head coach IMO.

 

[Franisdaman]

I was really hoping Dembele could be that rebounding guy we need

He just isn’t good

Don't you think he played well coming off the bench?

 

[QChawks]

Don't you think he played well coming off the bench?

tonight, yes

11 & 4 is amazing for him

I was hoping with starter minutes he could be maybe a double/double guy

obviously not

 

[Franisdaman]

****ing officials really turned the tide on a bad out of bounds call too. But yes, we are soft as butter on picnic table in August.

Control what you can control.

Effort is what you can control. Boxing out is what you can control.

 

[Franisdaman]

Some of it is them being able to outjump us, and some is just bad luck. When they missed it was bouncing hard back to them.

but wouldn't you agree this crazy -12 rebounding margin issue has been going on the entire 15 year Fran tenure?

 

[Legs94]

Some of it is them being able to outjump us, and some is just bad luck. When they missed it was bouncing hard back to them.

Most of it was not boxing out

 

[bansheexyz]

Not gonna lie, when Dembele went 3/3 from 3, I thought we would win for sure.

 

[RocknRollface]

Dembele looked good off the bench

I hope Traore is close to 100%; he played just 14 minutes tonight

Because Payton never comes off the floor. Payton should be 28-30 minutes not 39.

 

[Franisdaman]

Most of it was not boxing out

agreed. boxing out is one of the first things you learn as a youngster.

 

[jonesy5960]

Iowa wins if Fran goes zone and they rebound

Nah. They'd have lost by at least 15 playing zone.

 

[HawkLogic]

I was really hoping Dembele could be that rebounding guy we need

He just isn’t good

True, but you need all 5 guys rebounding when you play small ball. Guys like Dix, Sandfort, Harding are not getting near enough of the 50/50 loose ball rebounds. Payton is overmatched at PF and Dembele is little bit clueless on defense at PF. Our guys are skinny, no muscle, not super athletes.

Dembele 3pt shooting is reason we were in game today. We'll probably have a long wait until the next game he goes off.

Not pissed we lost. I wish I was wrong, but I pretty much figured we would fold at some point. ISU puts so much pressure on a team. Iowa guys not mentally tough or physically tough

 

[Buffalo43]

Its both iowa state had great effort getting loose ball 50/50 rebounds

 

[Mohawkeye]

15 years, and the rebounding effort - or let's face it, the lack thereof - is still the same.

Its insane that a coach thinks he can keep doing that, let the other team get boat loads of points off 2nd/3rd/4th+ chances but still be extremely competitive all year long and vs teams that will seriously make you pay for that mindset.

Iowa has not traditionally been a bad rebounding team under Fran. Poor rebounding and FT shooting this year are out of the norm.
They may coach different sports, but Fran and Kirk are way too similar in some respects.

"My way works, not changing a thing!"

 

[Franisdaman]

Nah. They'd have lost by at least 15 playing zone.

We might sneak into the Big Dance but I think we all know we are likely a one and done and clearly not a second weekend (Sweet 16) team.

Damn it; this was a huge opportunity and we simply blew it.

 

[Buffalo43]

Boxing out is a thing of the past like offensive fouls

 

[Franisdaman]

That missed call was a free 3 for them, and brock's spin move turnover was a 5 point swing. Iowa likely wins if those don't happen.

You can't control what the officials call.

You can control effort, however.

Were you ok with Iowa's rebounding effort tonight?

 

[Buffalo43]

We might sneak into the Big Dance but I think we all know we are likely a one and done and clearly not a second weekend (Sweet 16) team.

Damn it; this was a huge opportunity and we simply blew it.

Yep pissed it away maybe Fran could call a timeout ?

 

[uihawk82]

20 Clown second chance points tonight off 18 Clown offensive rebounds.

100% unacceptable, but it's the same sh*tty lack of rebounding, different game.

The Clowns win 89-80 after Iowa had led for 33:28 of the game (the game was tied for 3:27).

Iowa led by 13 points in the first half (39-26 with 4:09 to go) but blow the opportunity.

I didnt watch, might watch highlights, hard for me anymore to sit thru a whole fran ball game until Feb.

So my question was the rebounding problems poor blockouts, poor hustle to get in position, slower off the floor, not getting legs into their jumps and getting beat for the ball? What exactly

 

[Buffalo43]

Don't you think he played well coming off the bench?

I do he was alot better then Payton tonight made his shots and stayed in controlled

 

[RocknRollface]

Boxing out is a thing of the past like offensive fouls

Its a pre-Fran McCaffery thing.

He literally does not teach his players to box out, he's said as much.

 

[skydog0784]

I agree with the thought that playing Payton (39 mins) for too many minutes instead of Seydou (14 mins) was a big mistake. Traore looked just fine and not particularly winded to me. 50% FG and 100% FT seemed just fine to me.