Recruiting needs

[TarpHawk]

Some questions:

Why aren't we recruiting 2021 #6 Haas (195)? We need a replacement for Warner in 2022-23, assuming Assad is at 184. Otherwise we need an 84-pounder.

I know we'd all like to have Gallagher (#5 2021; 160). Where does he fit in the lineup vis-a-vis Reyna (157), Kennedy (165), and Brands (174)?

Who follows Teasdale at 133 in 2022-23? Are we hoping Schriever will move up and be healthy (assuming we get Ayala at 125)? Is Van Ness a possibility or is will he be too big?

We've got one true stud in class of 2020 (Kennedy), with three up-and-comers/wildcards (Schriever, Ybarra, Reyna)--need all 3 to punch above their weight in order to be competitive.

We need Ayala in class of 2021. Henson needs to grow to 149 unless Ybarra does.

Thoughts?

 

[west2east]

Some questions:

Why aren't we recruiting 2021 #6 Haas (195)? We need a replacement for Warner in 2022-23, assuming Assad is at 184. Otherwise we need an 84-pounder.

I know we'd all like to have Gallagher (#5 2021; 160). Where does he fit in the lineup vis-a-vis Reyna (157), Kennedy (165), and Brands (174)?

Who follows Teasdale at 133 in 2022-23? Are we hoping Schriever will move up and be healthy (assuming we get Ayala at 125)? Is Van Ness a possibility or is will he be too big?

We've got one true stud in class of 2020 (Kennedy), with three up-and-comers/wildcards (Schriever, Ybarra, Reyna)--need all 3 to punch above their weight in order to be competitive.

We need Ayala in class of 2021. Henson needs to grow to 149 unless Ybarra does.

Thoughts?

Haas is Tyler Caldwell brother so Oklahoma st is a lock

 

[edquinn06]

Haas is Tyler Caldwell brother so Oklahoma st is a lock

yep so Glaizer or Christensen will most likely take over after Warner.

 

[edquinn06]

Some questions:

Why aren't we recruiting 2021 #6 Haas (195)? We need a replacement for Warner in 2022-23, assuming Assad is at 184. Otherwise we need an 84-pounder.

I know we'd all like to have Gallagher (#5 2021; 160). Where does he fit in the lineup vis-a-vis Reyna (157), Kennedy (165), and Brands (174)?

Who follows Teasdale at 133 in 2022-23? Are we hoping Schriever will move up and be healthy (assuming we get Ayala at 125)? Is Van Ness a possibility or is will he be too big?

We've got one true stud in class of 2020 (Kennedy), with three up-and-comers/wildcards (Schriever, Ybarra, Reyna)--need all 3 to punch above their weight in order to be competitive.

We need Ayala in class of 2021. Henson needs to grow to 149 unless Ybarra does.

Thoughts?

We need a 149 in the class of 2021 for sure. Hopefully one of Voinovich, Sokol, or Rathjen will take care of that problem. I believe Henson will probably stay at 141.

 

[funnyfletcher]

Would this be possible? 65-Gallagher 74-Kennedy 84-Brands 97-Assad

 

[js8793]

Would this be possible? 65-Gallagher 74-Kennedy 84-Brands 97-Assad

Not sure either Brands or Assad would be big enough for those weights.

 

[js8793]

Some questions:

Why aren't we recruiting 2021 #6 Haas (195)? We need a replacement for Warner in 2022-23, assuming Assad is at 184. Otherwise we need an 84-pounder.

I know we'd all like to have Gallagher (#5 2021; 160). Where does he fit in the lineup vis-a-vis Reyna (157), Kennedy (165), and Brands (174)?

Who follows Teasdale at 133 in 2022-23? Are we hoping Schriever will move up and be healthy (assuming we get Ayala at 125)? Is Van Ness a possibility or is will he be too big?

We've got one true stud in class of 2020 (Kennedy), with three up-and-comers/wildcards (Schriever, Ybarra, Reyna)--need all 3 to punch above their weight in order to be competitive.

We need Ayala in class of 2021. Henson needs to grow to 149 unless Ybarra does.

Thoughts?

I think people have addressed the Haas thing. I believe Tyler Caldwell is their recruiting director, so missing on his brother would be a pretty big shock. I also think Haas is considered a heavyweight prospect.

Van Ness is supposedly an Ivy kid.

I don't think Ybarra is a 149. Last I heard he doesn't really cut weight as it is right now at 120.

 

[Azchief32]

Haas is Tyler Caldwell brother so Oklahoma st is a lock

Caldwell’s Mom is going to be at meets for another 4-5 years? Sweet.

 

[funnyfletcher]

Not sure either Brands or Assad would be big enough for those weights.

I was wondering that, too. Would be a hell of a lineup though.

 

[KujawaFan]

Chief u prick just spit out pop on my computer on that post. Sokol will be interesting although not a high percentage on “re-opening” come back but hopefully he does. I think Drake is the number 1 priority as he steps right in for SL. Plus, even though we are recruiting nationally (maybe internationally) when the State of Iowa has what could be a generational talent we need to lock down the borders down and get them to IC. And I realize there are no guarantees obviously but this kid would seem to check all the boxes.

 

[Spicolli]

yep so Glaizer or Christensen will most likely take over after Warner.

Keep an eye on Brandon Hoselton (Illinois)

 

[TarpHawk]

Here's what I have for Iowa for 2022-23:
125: Ayala (RSF) - #12 class of '21 (this is a NEED)
133: Teasdale (Sr) - #16 class of '18
141: Ybarra (So) - #17 class of '20
149: Henson (RSF) - #22 class of '21
157: Reyna (So) - #35 class of '20
165: Kennedy (So) - #5 class of '20
174: Brands (Sr) - #93 class of '18
184: Assad (Jr) - #29 class of '19
197: Glazier (Jr) - #83 class of '19
285: Cass (Sr) - #14 class of '18

If we get #5 Gallagher somebody sits for a year or moves up.

Ybarra's gotta go 141 unless he wants to sit behind Teasdale until junior year. And Henson's gotta go 149 unless he wants to battle it out with Ybarra at 141 until his senior year.

Hoselton is #43 class of '21; we have an awful lot of guys outside the top 20 to be betting on yet another.

We'll have only one top-10 P4P recruit in the lineup, which means we're betting a lot on guys with upside potential.

Here's what I have for Penn State:
125: Teske (Jr) - #34 class of '18
133: Howard (So) - #4 class of '20
141: Bartlett (So) - #8 class of '20
149: ?
157: ?
165: Lee (Jr) - #20 class of '18
174: Starocci (Jr) - #9 class of '19
184: Brooks (Jr) - #2 class of '18
197: Beard (Jr) - #11 class of '18
285: Nevills (Jr) - #22 class of '18

 

[TarpHawk]

And here's Ohio State:
125: ?
133: Decatur (Sr) - #5 class of '19
141: D'Emilio (Jr) - #32 class of '19
149: Sasso (Sr) - #4 class of '18
157: Mattox (Sr) - #24 class of '18
165: Kharchla (Jr) - #4 class of '19
174: Jordan (Sr) - #35 class of '18
184: Hoffman (Sr) - #10 class of '18
197: ?
285: Kerkvliet (Jr) - #1 class of '19

 

[zoe22]

No Cullen??

Here's what I have for Iowa for 2022-23:
125: Ayala (RSF) - #12 class of '21 (this is a NEED)
133: Teasdale (Sr) - #16 class of '18
141: Ybarra (So) - #17 class of '20
149: Henson (RSF) - #22 class of '21
157: Reyna (So) - #35 class of '20
165: Kennedy (So) - #5 class of '20
174: Brands (Sr) - #93 class of '18
184: Assad (Jr) - #29 class of '19
197: Glazier (Jr) - #83 class of '19
285: Cass (Sr) - #14 class of '18

If we get #5 Gallagher somebody sits for a year or moves up.

Ybarra's gotta go 141 unless he wants to sit behind Teasdale until junior year. And Henson's gotta go 149 unless he wants to battle it out with Ybarra at 141 until his senior year.

Hoselton is #43 class of '21; we have an awful lot of guys outside the top 20 to be betting on yet another.

We'll have only one top-10 P4P recruit in the lineup, which means we're betting a lot on guys with upside potential.

Here's what I have for Penn State:
125: Teske (Jr) - #34 class of '18
133: Howard (So) - #4 class of '20
141: Bartlett (So) - #8 class of '20
149: ?
157: ?
165: Lee (Jr) - #20 class of '18
174: Starocci (Jr) - #9 class of '19
184: Brooks (Jr) - #2 class of '18
197: Beard (Jr) - #11 class of '18
285: Nevills (Jr) - #22 class of '18

 

[TarpHawk]

Ohio State will have 4 top-10s.
Okla State will 4 top-10s (Wittlake, Plott, Haas, Ferrari).
PSU will have 4 top-10s.
Iowa will have 1 top-10.

Top-10s aren't sure things, and we're potentially heading into the two best seasons we've seen for a long time, so now is not the time to complain. But it worries me that we're not seeing more top-10s coming to Iowa based on what we've learned over the past 9 years.

You used to be able to win NCAAs with 100 points, and we stopped doing that in 2012 (but are poised to do it in 2020 and 2021). Now you need 140 points to win NCAAs, which means the margin for error is close to zero. We can only afford to gamble on one or two weights, and the rest have to be 4-time finalist-type guys like Lee and Kennedy.

 

[TarpHawk]

No Cullen??

Where do you put him?

 

[zoe22]

Cullen 33-41, Don’t think Henson will be a 49, probably 41, Ybarra 25-33, Rathjen probably a 49-57 if he comes to Iowa. Cullen Is being forgotten, his resume is as good if not better then any recruit we have coming in other than Kennedy.

 

[rassling]

And here's Ohio State:
125: ?
133: Decatur (Sr) - #5 class of '19
141: D'Emilio (Jr) - #32 class of '19
149: Sasso (Sr) - #4 class of '18
157: Mattox (Sr) - #24 class of '18
165: Kharchla (Jr) - #4 class of '19
174: Jordan (Sr) - #35 class of '18
184: Hoffman (Sr) - #10 class of '18
197: ?
285: Kerkvliet (Jr) - #1 class of '19

Ohio St would also have 141: Quinn Kinner (Sr) - #15 class of '18

 

[sunwarrior]

Where do you put him?

I view Cullan as a potential 125 in 2022-23.. Ayala would be nice for depth. Maybe either Ayala or Schriever would only see the lineup for 3 years rather than 4 with who we have on board, but nothing wrong with that

I don’t see Henson being a 149 but who knows... I personally think there will be some battles for the 133/141 spot between Cullan, Ybarra, & Henson

I view 149 and 197 as needs... Hoselton may be #43 on the big board but there isn’t really anyone other than Haas ranked above him in that weight range... really hoping to land him because I think we do need a 197 in that class

For 49, I think we just need to get either Rathjen, Victor V, Sokol, or Echemendia

Gallagher would just be added depth too IMO. Maybe between him, Brands, and Kennedy one of them could get down to 157 and get into the lineup there? Maybe Brands & Assad bump up as someone suggested? Maybe someone just doesn’t start all 4 years? Good problem to have if we can get him here

Just how I see it... Great thread. I’ve been wondering about a lot of these same things

 

[funnyfletcher]

And here's Ohio State:
125: ?
133: Decatur (Sr) - #5 class of '19
141: D'Emilio (Jr) - #32 class of '19
149: Sasso (Sr) - #4 class of '18
157: Mattox (Sr) - #24 class of '18
165: Kharchla (Jr) - #4 class of '19
174: Jordan (Sr) - #35 class of '18
184: Hoffman (Sr) - #10 class of '18
197: ?
285: Kerkvliet (Jr) - #1 class of '19

197 Shumate? He was top 3 in his class, not sure if it's been updated since he's lost recently.

 

[KujawaFan]

Sun - the parts I disagree. And I am usually wrong. But I don’t think Drake and Paddy would be back-ups or room guys. I think both would go for 4 years. But I am wrong a lot.

 

[sunwarrior]

Sun - the parts I disagree. And I am usually wrong. But I don’t think Drake and Paddy would be back-ups or room guys. I think both would go for 4 years. But I am wrong a lot.

Oh I agree. Didn’t mean to imply that they would be the odd man out in those scenarios. I’m very high on both of them. Just that someone out of the names we are discussing around those weights would potentially be in a backup role for a year or two

 

[wasdt21]

didn't want to say anything, tarp, but it seemed to me like we are getting guys just below where we want. all three of the new guys are on the rise though, so there is that. and reyna being this years class also a plus.
we all want top 10p4p it's just not as easy as some make it look.

 

[fufighters]

Ybarra just won who's number one and so did Kennedy.
Got some great recruits in Henson and Reyna that are climbing the boards fast. Both of these young men will only climb higher and may be in top 20 if not top ten before their hs career's are over. Even though they are Iowa recruits
That's a heck of a nice haul and I dont think we're done yet.

 

[KujawaFan]

Good point Sun. I agree. I just saw Paddy as a room guy from you and Drake a year off. If they are we are frickin’ good. People are gonna sit. Love the studs who may means our 10 are salty. Could be ISU and have to go to 7-11 for a room.

 

[Ihawkd9times]

125: Ayala
133: Teasdale
141: Ybarra / Henson
149: Reyna/ Rathjen
157: Paddy
165: Kennedy
174: Brands
184: Assad
197: Glazier
285: Cass


Finalist: Ayala (Champ), Teasdale, Kennedy (Champ)

Top 5: Paddy, Brands, Assad, Cass

AA: Ybarra, Reyna

Round 12 Glazier

 

[MVPFAN]

yep so Glaizer or Christensen will most likely take over after Warner.

I'm guessing we might have an eye Brandon Hoselton for 195. Christensen did much better last year after moving up to 220 so maybe he goes the heavy route. Glazier probably ends up 195 being taller than Abe.

 

[MVPFAN]

Would this be possible? 65-Gallagher 74-Kennedy 84-Brands 97-Assad

If Paddy followed Brands at 165 and PK goes 174 then he would at most sit only 1 year, none if he gray shirted or did a year at OTC. Given how tall Abe is I'd like to see him a 184 lifer.

 

[The Vak]

Tarp's point isn't wrong. Our recruiting is starting to feel a little similar to how we got into this drought, when all of us thought we'd be getting a bunch of top 10ish guys thanks to Spencer.

 

[slushhead]

. . . Here's what I have for Penn State:
125: Teske (Jr) - #34 class of '18
133: Howard (So) - #4 class of '20
141: Bartlett (So) - #8 class of '20
149: ?
157: ?
165: Lee (Jr) - #20 class of '18
174: Starocci (Jr) - #9 class of '19
184: Brooks (Jr) - #2 class of '18
197: Beard (Jr) - #11 class of '18
285: Nevills (Jr) - #22 class of '18

RBY still has a redshirt available, and so it is conceivable he is in the lineup
for the 2022-23 season.

 

[MSeil]

We have 11 seniors and 9 Jrs that leads me to believe next years class should be a Big Haul.
With 7 committs (replacing Srs.) coming, Henson is our only 21' get.
JMO
Go Hawks!!!

 

[Herkuleez5]

125: Ayala
133: Teasdale
141: Ybarra / Henson
149: Reyna/ Rathjen
157: Paddy
165: Kennedy
174: Brands
184: Assad
197: Glazier
285: Cass


Finalist: Ayala (Champ), Teasdale, Kennedy (Champ)

Top 5: Paddy, Brands, Assad, Cass

AA: Ybarra, Reyna

Round 12 Glazier

This is how I see it if we are still going after Paddy and land him.

 

[FD_HWC]

How about Jaydin Eierman whos taking a Olympic RS this year and will have one year of eligibility remaining after 2020 and would make for a great one year 41/49 and the addition to HWC

 

[bnicolls]

Ybarra just won who's number one and so did Kennedy.
Got some great recruits in Henson and Reyna that are climbing the boards fast. Both of these young men will only climb higher and may be in top 20 if not top ten before their hs career's are over. Even though they are Iowa recruits
That's a heck of a nice haul and I dont think we're done yet.

Agree 100% here. And, we're going to get more to come to solve potential holes, just like what has occurred over the last 2-3 years to get us where we are today.......with a team that has a good chance to win. We have not had that in some time.

Tom knows what has to be done, and along with his staff, is tirelessly working to get there.

 

[IAChief32]

How about Jaydin Eierman whos taking a Olympic RS this year and will have one year of eligibility remaining after 2020 and would make for a great one year 41/49 and the addition to HWC

He has pretty strong ties to Mizzou though.

 

[WEH8ST8HAWK]

125: Ayala
133: Teasdale
141: Ybarra / Henson
149: Reyna/ Rathjen
157: Paddy
165: Kennedy
174: Brands
184: Assad
197: Glazier
285: Cass


Finalist: Ayala (Champ), Teasdale, Kennedy (Champ)

Top 5: Paddy, Brands, Assad, Cass

AA: Ybarra, Reyna

Round 12 Glazier

Not too much disagreement from me on this lineup, looks pretty salty.
The one thing I will add is that we need a top tier replacement for Warner after he graduates.

 

[Gobblin]

He has pretty strong ties to Mizzou though.

Not to mention his dad and his thoughts about TnT and Iowa.

 

[letsgohawks44]

Not to mention his dad and his thoughts about TnT and Iowa.

Is there history between them, or he just doesn't like them and has been vocal about it?

 

[hawkeyejr]

Not to mention his dad and his thoughts about TnT and Iowa.

Is there history between them, or he just doesn't like them and has been vocal about it?

Pretty sure ole goober is just throwing out information and hoping his s**t sticks. Kinda like Sokol is "Gone" and Paddy's interest has "decreased".

 

[HawkMD]

Here's what I have for Iowa for 2022-23:
125: Ayala (RSF) - #12 class of '21 (this is a NEED)
133: Teasdale (Sr) - #16 class of '18
141: Ybarra (So) - #17 class of '20
149: Henson (RSF) - #22 class of '21
157: Reyna (So) - #35 class of '20
165: Kennedy (So) - #5 class of '20
174: Brands (Sr) - #93 class of '18
184: Assad (Jr) - #29 class of '19
197: Glazier (Jr) - #83 class of '19
285: Cass (Sr) - #14 class of '18

If we get #5 Gallagher somebody sits for a year or moves up.

Ybarra's gotta go 141 unless he wants to sit behind Teasdale until junior year. And Henson's gotta go 149 unless he wants to battle it out with Ybarra at 141 until his senior year.

Hoselton is #43 class of '21; we have an awful lot of guys outside the top 20 to be betting on yet another.

We'll have only one top-10 P4P recruit in the lineup, which means we're betting a lot on guys with upside potential.

Here's what I have for Penn State:
125: Teske (Jr) - #34 class of '18
133: Howard (So) - #4 class of '20
141: Bartlett (So) - #8 class of '20
149: ?
157: ?
165: Lee (Jr) - #20 class of '18
174: Starocci (Jr) - #9 class of '19
184: Brooks (Jr) - #2 class of '18
197: Beard (Jr) - #11 class of '18
285: Nevills (Jr) - #22 class of '18

Ayala is not as strong of an Iowa lean as he was in the past. Probably 50/50 at this point.