Kriener and Garza are your 5's this year. Barring injury, neither will redshirt.
Redshirts?
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Kriener and Garza are your 5's this year. Barring injury, neither will redshirt.
The only reason I can see for redshirting (other than the player wanting one) is if a player still needs development and is buried behind others, particularly upperclassmen. A guy like Moss a couple of years ago made sense, since he wasn't at a position of need and seems to have a decently high ceiling. Olaseni would have made sense his FR year.
In both cases they were guys with intriguing ceilings, but not necessarily the skills to go with it. They were both also behind numerous players at their positions. It wouldn't really hurt the team to have them RS in either case and it would have been better for the player. That said, I can see why Gabe didn't since he was already 19 when he got to Iowa, but in general, a player in his position would have benefited from the extra year.
In general though, I don't like the idea of RS in basketball nearly as much as RS in football.
In both cases they were guys with intriguing ceilings, but not necessarily the skills to go with it. They were both also behind numerous players at their positions. It wouldn't really hurt the team to have them RS in either case and it would have been better for the player. That said, I can see why Gabe didn't since he was already 19 when he got to Iowa, but in general, a player in his position would have benefited from the extra year.
In general though, I don't like the idea of RS in basketball nearly as much as RS in football.
Id say the chances of Moss not starting as a 4th year junior are about zero.
No clue on Nunge.
I would be very surprised if anyone red shirts this year, unless someone is injured. I do think there is a good chance that whoever is the odd man out for playing time between Dailey and CW is likely to transfer, especially if it is Dailey.
The red shirt is much more of a college football benefit than it is in college basketball. When college football players begin, many are not physically mature to the point where they can compete against season 2 college football players. The Redshirt year gives them a chance two further develop. Basketball generally surrounds more around Talent then sheer athletic ability as is the case often times in football. While players can improve their skill set, simple time of waiting one year is not as useful as it is in college football.
Just from Fran's classes, with no benefit of hindsight, I would've redshirted:
Olesani
Dailey
Kriener/Pemsl (one of the two)
But I'm not a basketball coach and don't know shit about shit.
Olesani
Dailey
Kriener/Pemsl (one of the two)
But I'm not a basketball coach and don't know shit about shit.
Refined Bean got it right.. I know not sh$#t.
Someone needs to red shirt and/or sit on the bench with no hope of playing time.
I suspect between injury/re-hab and everything else..
Pemsel, Garza, or someone else.
Someone needs to red shirt and/or sit on the bench with no hope of playing time.
I suspect between injury/re-hab and everything else..
Pemsel, Garza, or someone else.
Unless they are injured, there is almost zero chance that Pemsl, Garza, or any of the bigs will redshirt. There are limited minutes, so some might become unhappy, but Connor Mc is going to be the only redshirt.
I think this kind of highlights a point in regard to Pemsl. Redshirts shouldn't be burned simply because PT issues. A guy like Pemsl should hold on to his redshirt in the event that he is severely injured as we all know how difficult it is to get a "medical redshirt" and a sixth year of eligibility.
Fran's philosophy as it appears in practice, and I believe he has actually expressed himself more than once, is that the player is the one that makes the decision as to redshirting. I have every confidence that he is being honest with them as to where they are in the playing time mix and if the player still wants to take his chances and not redshirt then that's entirely up to him.
If I were a player, all I would ask is that the coach gives me a chance and is honest with me as to where I stand regarding potential to see the court. Everything about Fran that I've seen suggests he's honest and up front with his players.
If I were a player, all I would ask is that the coach gives me a chance and is honest with me as to where I stand regarding potential to see the court. Everything about Fran that I've seen suggests he's honest and up front with his players.
Moss redshirted because of grades.
He had to do summer school at home just to qualify.
He was a higher ranked player and clearly more ready to play than Williams or Fleming and even Ellingson.
He was actually exactly what that team could of used, a decent back up gaurd.
Really wish Gabe would have redshirted though.
My point with Moss was more that they didn't need him, they had numerous capable wing players and he would have likely played similar minutes that Gabe did his FR year.
A situation like Gabe's Fr year is actually the biggest reason (short of grades or injury) that I could see for a RS. With respect to Gabe though, if he would have RS, he'd have been (I think) 24 at the end of his SR year. I fully understand why he wouldn't want to RS in that case.
I actually think Moss would have been the first guard off the bench sooner than later that year and gotten decent minutes.
There really wasn't many capable wings. By conference season Uhl and Baer were pretty much the only backups for all spots and Dom mostly backed up Woody.
That team really needed another guard. Fran gave Fleming and Ellingson allot of chances early and they played their way out.
I get why Gabe didnt, but still wish he would have.
No way I would redshirt Nunge. I do agree with OP that Pemsl might benefit health wise from a redshirt year. Dailey is a good candidate for a redshirt as well but I would let him play. I say, see if he is good enough to earn minutes this year. If not, gently move him on his way. bc next year McCaffery and Wieskamp come in and I don't see him playing over either of those guys and Moss, Ellingson and Bohannon will all be ahead of him.
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