And this is rub for the Rs. If "they" expel Gaetz, the Trumpers will say the deep state did it. The MAGA wing is holding the party hostage. Yet, many supposed rational Rs on here also say McCarthy sucks. Why? Because he's doing his job.Are you scared?
Greene warns expelling Gaetz ‘will not be tolerated’ by GOP voters
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) warned that a move to expel Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) from the House “will not be tolerated” by GOP voters. “And a Republican led effort to expel Matt Gaetz…thehill.com
And this is rub for the Rs. If "they" expel Gaetz, the Trumpers will say the deep state did it. The MAGA wing is holding the party hostage. Yet, many supposed rational Rs on here also say McCarthy sucks. Why? Because he's doing his job.
The government was kept open because reasonable people on both sides of the aisle did what they have done almost every year of my life. They compromised. But the MAGA wing can't understand that. And even "reasonable Rs" are starting to not get it. All they want to do is own the libs.
I am on Team McCarthy on this one.And this is rub for the Rs. If "they" expel Gaetz, the Trumpers will say the deep state did it. The MAGA wing is holding the party hostage. Yet, many supposed rational Rs on here also say McCarthy sucks. Why? Because he's doing his job.
The government was kept open because reasonable people on both sides of the aisle did what they have done almost every year of my life. They compromised. But the MAGA wing can't understand that. And even "reasonable Rs" are starting to not get it. All they want to do is own the libs.
If Matt Gaetz said it...it must be true 😆
Ukraine aid and Matt Gaetz sent packing? I'm down with that...
I thought Joes Place and Tom Paris are from Iowa.I am on Team McCarthy on this one.
Hard core Trumpies are - to me - reminiscent of those old photos of hard bitten Appalachian types who have a certain thing in their head and by God you ain’t gonna tell ‘em different, no way no how.
Schiff is just as politically dirty as Gaetz, but is way more politically savvy. Maybe not as personally sleazy though.California Rep. Adam Schiff and Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz agree on at least one thing: They don’t trust Kevin McCarthy.
“I don’t know what happens to McCarthy’s speakership, but frankly the problem he’s having is we don’t trust him,” Schiff (D-Calif.) said Monday during an interview on MSNBC. “He broke his word with the president over the debt ceiling deal. His own conference doesn’t trust him.”
If Schiff’s comments sound familiar, it’s because they are. Gaetz, the Republican hardliner threatening to launch an effort to boot McCarthy from leadership, said as much during an interview on CNN Sunday.
“[The] one thing everybody has in common is that nobody trusts Kevin McCarthy,” Gaetz told CNN’s Jake Tapper.
McCarthy has brushed Gaetz’s threat aside. “If somebody wants to remove [me] because I want to be the adult in the room, go ahead and try,” McCarthy said on Saturday, adding: “If I have to risk my job for standing up for the American public, I will do that.”
But Schiff’s comments could cut the Republican leader deeper. If more than a handful of House Republicans move against the speaker, he’ll need support from Democrats to keep his gavel.
So far, Democrats don’t publicly seem keen on the idea. And Schiff, a prominent member of a caucus with a tense relationship with McCarthy, could hold sway over other members of the conference.
McCarthy and Schiff have battled over the Jan. 6 investigation, which Schiff helped lead in Congress, and McCarthy vowed to remove Schiff from the House Intelligence Committee over comments Schiff made about reporting on Hunter Biden’s laptop. The rift between the California politicians reached a head in January, when McCarthy followed through on that promise, blocking Schiff and Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-Calif.) from the panel.
“I cannot put partisan loyalty ahead of national security, and I cannot simply recognize years of service as the sole criteria for membership on this essential committee. Integrity matters more,” McCarthy wrote in a letter to House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries at the time.
On Monday, Schiff did not indicate if he would vote to remove McCarthy from his position.
“He doesn’t seem to stand for anything except the desire to hold on to the gavel. And ultimately we’ll see whether he survives,” Schiff said.
Adam Schiff and Matt Gaetz agree on one thing ...
If Adam Schiff’s comments on Kevin McCarthy sound familiar, it’s because they are.www.politico.com
I am on Team McCarthy on this one.
Hard core Trumpies are - to me - reminiscent of those old photos of hard bitten Appalachian types who have a certain thing in their head and by God you ain’t gonna tell ‘em different, no way no how.
Schiff is just as politically dirty as Gaetz, but is way more politically savvy. Maybe not as personally sleazy though.
He went down to kiss the ring of the domestic terrorist leader weeks after January 6th.Schiff aside, not the least of the reasons I don’t trust McCarthy is that he hasn’t consistently been able to demonstrate that he is leading his caucus; not just that he sees which way the wind is blowing and goes that way. So promises with him are meaningless as a result because I don’t trust his ability to maneuver his caucus.
He went down to kiss the ring of the domestic terrorist leader weeks after January 6th.
Oh that isn't disqualifying in your mind? Massive red flag, but ok.Sometimes I think you go out of your way to pick a fight.
There are many reasons to not like or trust McCarthy. His lack Of shame when flipping positions is another.Oh that isn't disqualifying in your mind? Massive red flag, but ok.
I wasn't insinuating anything about you in my reply so apologies there it was for whom you were discussing it with. That's the #1 issue IMO he bows to the terrorist leader.There are many reasons to not like or trust McCarthy. His lack Of shame when flipping positions is another.
but you made it sound like I only had one issue with him. There’s quite a few.
at his core he’s a leader who can’t lead.
I wasn't insinuating anything about you in my reply so apologies there it was for whom you were discussing it with. That's the #1 issue IMO he bows to the terrorist leader.
A rock is more politically savvy than Gaetz.Schiff is just as politically dirty as Gaetz, but is way more politically savvy. Maybe not as personally sleazy though.
Jeffries for Speaker with 10 or so normal Republicans left with all the Dems.The fix is let McCarthy go The House circus will go into overdrive nuttiness. Who would want a position that would be just an anecdote in the history books. The loony Republicans would kick out any Speaker with character.
What a shit show. How embarrassing to be a Republican.
Jeffries for Speaker with 10 or so normal Republicans left with all the Dems.
Yet the Appalachian types had (have) the greater good in mind. Not so for the drumps.I am on Team McCarthy on this one.
Hard core Trumpies are - to me - reminiscent of those old photos of hard bitten Appalachian types who have a certain thing in their head and by God you ain’t gonna tell ‘em different, no way no how.
🤮If Matt Gaetz said it...it must be true 😆
I agree.The government was kept open because reasonable people on both sides of the aisle did what they have done almost every year of my life. They compromised. But the MAGA wing can't understand that. And even "reasonable Rs" are starting to not get it. All they want to do is own the libs.
In jeopardy? It's already gone. McCarthy can't control his side so the shutdown bill contains no aid. And as far as a backroom deal goes, McCarthy is quoted as saying that he would give the Dems nothing and this was after him bashing them post shutdown deal. Dems would have to be crazy to trust a Speaker like that.I agree.
I also think voting unanimously with Matt "Putin Stooge" Gaetz was basically a "owning the R's vote".
Now Ukraine aid is in jeopardy and I could see this house fight going on for weeks. Nobody is gonna take the job with the "one idiot can toss the speaker" clause and Matt "putin stooge" Gaetz and crew ain't gonna give that up.
Yet Republican talking heads on Fox blame the Democrats for not saving McCarthy. That's, again, what their viewers hear...it's the Democrats' fault.In jeopardy? It's already gone. McCarthy can't control his side so the shutdown bill contains no aid. And as far as a backroom deal goes, McCarthy is quoted as saying that he would give the Dems nothing and this was after him bashing them post shutdown deal. Dems would have to be crazy to trust a Speaker like that.
Apparently you are a viewer, too.Yet Republican talking heads on Fox blame the Democrats for not saving McCarthy. That's, again, what their viewers hear...it's the Democrats' fault.
Apparently, someone with your low brain wattage would think that. It's not difficult to figure out how I might have come across that bit of information.Apparently you are a viewer, too.
Sometimes I think you go out of your way to pick a fight.
You still going to defend Trump in his lawsuit on fraudulent valuations?Apparently you are a viewer, too.
So, what if it's the truth? The Orange Turd leads a conspiracy to overthrow the government and it's not arguable?
He's been charged and not convicted but underlings down the chain are flipping. We have all heard the recording. Witnessess (Republicans) up the ying yang have testified and he stole stuff from the White House.
To not ASSUME guilt is naivete. The current 91 indictments and past convictions and fraudulent settlements against is enough to say his character is the issue. Not the agencies going after him as the cult, wacked out conservative press, and FASCIST CONGRESSION MEMBERS* insist.
*Jeez I hate to use this term, but it's got to this point.