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Republicans set to tank Ukraine, Israel supplemental today

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The Senate is gearing up for a procedural vote on a $110.5 billion national security bill this afternoon for Ukraine, Israel, Gaza humanitarian aid and the border.
It will fail. All or nearly all — probably all — Republicans will vote against it today because it includes no changes to U.S. policy on the border. The vote will be “decisive,” one senior Republican aide said.



Will this failed vote be the end of U.S. assistance to Ukraine? Or will it chart an eventual path to passage?

Democrats’ pessimism​

Democrats are extremely pessimistic about the prospects for Ukraine aid.
  • “I just don’t think there’s any question that we are about to abandon Ukraine,” said Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.), one of the key negotiators on the border package. “When Vladimir Putin marches into Kyiv and into Europe, Republicans will have to live with the fact that our sons and daughters will be over fighting when Vladimir Putin marches into a NATO country. They will rue the day that they decided to play politics.”
  • “We have to seriously contemplate the possibility that we’re not going to get this done,” said Sen. Christopher A. Coons (D-Del.). “Ukraine is in desperate need of confidence that we will continue to keep our word.”
The pessimism stems from broken-down bipartisan negotiations over the border and a classified briefing with Cabinet officials that devolved into shouting and a walkout.
  • “In the briefing, Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) raised his voice at Senate Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.), who blamed Republicans for injecting border policy demands. Cotton retorted that the blame should be on the president,” Leigh Ann writes with our colleagues Liz Goodwin and Marianna Sotomayor.
  • “Other Republicans, unified in their intent to redirect the briefing to the issue of security on the U.S.-Mexico border, also engaged in the argument. Cotton then asked the briefers for an exact date when funding for Ukraine would run out. A group of Republicans walked out in protest just 30 minutes after the briefing began.”

Republicans see leverage​

Republicans see leverage in a failed vote, suggesting it could push Democrats to realize they must accept a more conservative set of immigration policies to get the Israel and Ukraine funding.
“I think … Schumer will realize we’re serious,” said Sen. John Cornyn (R-Tex.). “And then the discussions will begin in earnest.”

As we’ve written multiple times, border policy and immigration is one of the most difficult issues that Congress faces, unable to pass potential solutions for more than two decades. A negotiation behind closed doors with just 5 percent of the Senate led by Sen. James Lankford (R-Okla.), who is untested in the art of bipartisan negotiations, is a tall task. And it’s even more difficult to complete in a matter of weeks when it is tied to unrelated issues like military aid to Ukraine.


The Biden administration continues to warn of the consequences of failing to send more aid to Ukraine.
“I can tell you where people are who do not want to see the supplemental pass,” Secretary of State Antony Blinken said Tuesday night at a U.S. Global Leadership Coalition event. “They're sitting in offices in Beijing, in Moscow and Tehran.”

In the House​

Like the Senate, the House also received a classified briefing on Tuesday. It was not nearly as dramatic, however.

For the time being, House Republicans are watching to see what the Senate does with the supplemental. Republicans argue they’ve already passed Israel aid and border security, so the onus is on the Senate, as many House Republicans are in no hurry to vote on aid for Ukraine.

Sanders to oppose supplemental vote​



Meanwhile, the border is not the only issue in the supplemental causing heartburn.


Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) said in an interview Tuesday night that he’ll vote against the procedural vote on the supplemental because the measure lacks conditions on the $10 billion in military aid for Israel.
  • “We have to end our complicity,” Sanders said. “I think the military strategy of the [Prime Minister Benjamin] Netanyahu government has not been to go to war against Hamas, but to go to war against the Palestinian people. What we are seeing is horrific; it is devastating. We should not be part of it.”
Sanders is the first member of the Senate Democratic Caucus to come out against the measure, which also includes $60 billion in funding for Ukraine.

In a letter to his colleagues sent Tuesday evening signaling his move, Sanders argued that the Israeli government is waging an “immoral” war.
While Sanders was the first senator in the caucus to call for conditions on aid to Israel, that number is growing. No other lawmaker in the caucus, however, has said they would oppose a broad funding package that also includes money for Ukraine.
However, a group of Democrats is “urged President Biden to do more to protect civilians in Gaza, writing in a letter sent Tuesday that the U.S. should ensure weapons it is transferring to Israel are not being used in a way that violates international law,” Liz writes. “The letter also expressed concerns about a lack of ‘transparency’ of those transfers.”



Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), who led the letter, said it is “important” that any aid package “reiterate” compliance with U.S. and international law, but there is not such language in the current aid package.
“Sens. Tim Kaine (D-Va.), Martin Heinrich (D-New Mexico) and Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.) also signed on to the letter requesting a briefing by next week and the answers to a lengthy list of questions about the U.S.’s posture on Israel’s military strategy,” Liz notes.
 
The Senate is gearing up for a procedural vote on a $110.5 billion national security bill this afternoon for Ukraine, Israel, Gaza humanitarian aid and the border.
It will fail. All or nearly all — probably all — Republicans will vote against it today because it includes no changes to U.S. policy on the border. The vote will be “decisive,” one senior Republican aide said.



Will this failed vote be the end of U.S. assistance to Ukraine? Or will it chart an eventual path to passage?

Democrats’ pessimism​

Democrats are extremely pessimistic about the prospects for Ukraine aid.
  • “I just don’t think there’s any question that we are about to abandon Ukraine,” said Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.), one of the key negotiators on the border package. “When Vladimir Putin marches into Kyiv and into Europe, Republicans will have to live with the fact that our sons and daughters will be over fighting when Vladimir Putin marches into a NATO country. They will rue the day that they decided to play politics.”
  • “We have to seriously contemplate the possibility that we’re not going to get this done,” said Sen. Christopher A. Coons (D-Del.). “Ukraine is in desperate need of confidence that we will continue to keep our word.”
The pessimism stems from broken-down bipartisan negotiations over the border and a classified briefing with Cabinet officials that devolved into shouting and a walkout.
  • “In the briefing, Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) raised his voice at Senate Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.), who blamed Republicans for injecting border policy demands. Cotton retorted that the blame should be on the president,” Leigh Ann writes with our colleagues Liz Goodwin and Marianna Sotomayor.
  • “Other Republicans, unified in their intent to redirect the briefing to the issue of security on the U.S.-Mexico border, also engaged in the argument. Cotton then asked the briefers for an exact date when funding for Ukraine would run out. A group of Republicans walked out in protest just 30 minutes after the briefing began.”

Republicans see leverage​

Republicans see leverage in a failed vote, suggesting it could push Democrats to realize they must accept a more conservative set of immigration policies to get the Israel and Ukraine funding.
“I think … Schumer will realize we’re serious,” said Sen. John Cornyn (R-Tex.). “And then the discussions will begin in earnest.”

As we’ve written multiple times, border policy and immigration is one of the most difficult issues that Congress faces, unable to pass potential solutions for more than two decades. A negotiation behind closed doors with just 5 percent of the Senate led by Sen. James Lankford (R-Okla.), who is untested in the art of bipartisan negotiations, is a tall task. And it’s even more difficult to complete in a matter of weeks when it is tied to unrelated issues like military aid to Ukraine.


The Biden administration continues to warn of the consequences of failing to send more aid to Ukraine.
“I can tell you where people are who do not want to see the supplemental pass,” Secretary of State Antony Blinken said Tuesday night at a U.S. Global Leadership Coalition event. “They're sitting in offices in Beijing, in Moscow and Tehran.”

In the House​

Like the Senate, the House also received a classified briefing on Tuesday. It was not nearly as dramatic, however.

For the time being, House Republicans are watching to see what the Senate does with the supplemental. Republicans argue they’ve already passed Israel aid and border security, so the onus is on the Senate, as many House Republicans are in no hurry to vote on aid for Ukraine.

Sanders to oppose supplemental vote​



Meanwhile, the border is not the only issue in the supplemental causing heartburn.


Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) said in an interview Tuesday night that he’ll vote against the procedural vote on the supplemental because the measure lacks conditions on the $10 billion in military aid for Israel.
  • “We have to end our complicity,” Sanders said. “I think the military strategy of the [Prime Minister Benjamin] Netanyahu government has not been to go to war against Hamas, but to go to war against the Palestinian people. What we are seeing is horrific; it is devastating. We should not be part of it.”
Sanders is the first member of the Senate Democratic Caucus to come out against the measure, which also includes $60 billion in funding for Ukraine.

In a letter to his colleagues sent Tuesday evening signaling his move, Sanders argued that the Israeli government is waging an “immoral” war.
While Sanders was the first senator in the caucus to call for conditions on aid to Israel, that number is growing. No other lawmaker in the caucus, however, has said they would oppose a broad funding package that also includes money for Ukraine.
However, a group of Democrats is “urged President Biden to do more to protect civilians in Gaza, writing in a letter sent Tuesday that the U.S. should ensure weapons it is transferring to Israel are not being used in a way that violates international law,” Liz writes. “The letter also expressed concerns about a lack of ‘transparency’ of those transfers.”



Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), who led the letter, said it is “important” that any aid package “reiterate” compliance with U.S. and international law, but there is not such language in the current aid package.
“Sens. Tim Kaine (D-Va.), Martin Heinrich (D-New Mexico) and Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.) also signed on to the letter requesting a briefing by next week and the answers to a lengthy list of questions about the U.S.’s posture on Israel’s military strategy,” Liz notes.
Do have have any idea what's in the bill, other than round numbers? Are you limited to cutting and pasting?

For instance, the Gaza aid includes $3.5B for non-specific needs, a.k.a. a slush fund for Biden.

For instance, the Ukraine aid includes $11.8B for non-war spending such as funding retirement plans for Ukraine government employees.

For instance, the bill includes $4.7B for housing illegal immigrants.

Oh, your headline left out all the Dems having reservations about various parts of the bill, though they would likely end up voting for it because they value spending over actual principles.
 
Do have have any idea what's in the bill, other than round numbers? Are you limited to cutting and pasting?

For instance, the Gaza aid includes $3.5B for non-specific needs, a.k.a. a slush fund for Biden.

For instance, the Ukraine aid includes $11.8B for non-war spending such as funding retirement plans for Ukraine government employees.

For instance, the bill includes $4.7B for housing illegal immigrants.

Oh, your headline left out all the Dems having reservations about various parts of the bill, though they would likely end up voting for it because they value spending over actual principles.
:rolleyes:
 
The Republicans want assurances that the U.S. southern border will be secured before they will agree to further Ukraine and Israeli funding. Why won't the dems agree to this? Please explain the downside?
 
The Republicans want assurances that the U.S. southern border will be secured before they will agree to further Ukraine and Israeli funding. Why won't the dems agree to this? Please explain the downside?
Because there is no plan for the money. What Democrats want is an actual plan and legislation from Republicans that they would support and vote for. All they do is complain about it, now they just want to throw a bunch of money at it without any plan beyond hiring more people, and then calling it a day. Presumably so when nothing changes they can continue to blame democrats for all the issues. There is no reason that something this complicated should be included with a bill for supporting Ukraine and Israel.
 
Because there is no plan for the money. What Democrats want is an actual plan and legislation from Republicans that they would support and vote for. All they do is complain about it, now they just want to throw a bunch of money at it without any plan beyond hiring more people, and then calling it a day. Presumably so when nothing changes they can continue to blame democrats for all the issues. There is no reason that something this complicated should be included with a bill for supporting Ukraine and Israel.
I'm glad you believe what you do. You are wrong or course but at least you presented a cogent argument. The reality is the left of the Democratic party has no interest in securing the border. If they did, they wouldn't have left uninstalled already paid for sections of the fence to rot in the desert, they wouldn't have stopped the remain in Mexico policy for asylum seekers. Whatever you think of the Republican party, on this issue, the Republicans are trying to follow our immigration laws that for whatever reason the Biden admin has no interest in.
 
The Republicans want assurances that the U.S. southern border will be secured before they will agree to further Ukraine and Israeli funding. Why won't the dems agree to this? Please explain the downside?

Yeah. So much legislation from the dipshit Republican House re: immigration and border issues. Zilch. Nada.

If Ukraine falls, Russia wins the political and diplomacy war Putin needs. The U.S.'s integrity and reputation takes a giant hit. It's tough for wingnuts to process since their universe extends go further than the Mexican border, but the consequences to international conditions are far greater than a fcvking wall.
 
I'm glad you believe what you do. You are wrong or course but at least you presented a cogent argument. The reality is the left of the Democratic party has no interest in securing the border. If they did, they wouldn't have left uninstalled already paid for sections of the fence to rot in the desert, they wouldn't have stopped the remain in Mexico policy for asylum seekers. Whatever you think of the Republican party, on this issue, the Republicans are trying to follow our immigration laws that for whatever reason the Biden admin has no interest in.
Well, none of what you say is true at all, well except maybe letting that worthless "wall" rot in the desert. In order to ask for asylum you need to be on American soil or a port of entry. How are you supposed to ask for asylum if you can't get into the country (legally at least) in the first place? Republicans are most certainly not following immigration law, what little of it there is anymore. Once again, you have provided your gripes but offered no solutions. "Keep em in Mexico" doesn't fix the problem. People are going to keep coming whether you like it or not and you need a better answer than "keep them in Mexico". Because if that's all you got, they will come in another way. Where is the Republican plan? They don't even have any idea of what they would include in a plan. Otherwise, they would talk about it. But they don't want to solve this problem so simpletons like you can get all angry about it and get that emotional vote they are looking for.
 
Because there is no plan for the money. What Democrats want is an actual plan and legislation from Republicans that they would support and vote for. All they do is complain about it, now they just want to throw a bunch of money at it without any plan beyond hiring more people, and then calling it a day. Presumably so when nothing changes they can continue to blame democrats for all the issues. There is no reason that something this complicated should be included with a bill for supporting Ukraine and Israel.
That's not true. The GOP presented a plan a few weeks ago.
 
4 things are true here imo:

1) the border is unrelated to Ukraine
2) we need to get a handle on immigration
3) Ukraine's counteroffensive was a failure
4) We have spent an enormous amount of money and by design have not empowered Ukraine with the weapons needed to push Russia out of Ukraine

Something's gotta give here, it sounds like the days of blank checks are over.
 
The Senate is gearing up for a procedural vote on a $110.5 billion national security bill this afternoon for Ukraine, Israel, Gaza humanitarian aid and the border.
It will fail. All or nearly all — probably all — Republicans will vote against it today because it includes no changes to U.S. policy on the border. The vote will be “decisive,” one senior Republican aide said.



Will this failed vote be the end of U.S. assistance to Ukraine? Or will it chart an eventual path to passage?

Democrats’ pessimism​

Democrats are extremely pessimistic about the prospects for Ukraine aid.
  • “I just don’t think there’s any question that we are about to abandon Ukraine,” said Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.), one of the key negotiators on the border package. “When Vladimir Putin marches into Kyiv and into Europe, Republicans will have to live with the fact that our sons and daughters will be over fighting when Vladimir Putin marches into a NATO country. They will rue the day that they decided to play politics.”
  • “We have to seriously contemplate the possibility that we’re not going to get this done,” said Sen. Christopher A. Coons (D-Del.). “Ukraine is in desperate need of confidence that we will continue to keep our word.”
The pessimism stems from broken-down bipartisan negotiations over the border and a classified briefing with Cabinet officials that devolved into shouting and a walkout.
  • “In the briefing, Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) raised his voice at Senate Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.), who blamed Republicans for injecting border policy demands. Cotton retorted that the blame should be on the president,” Leigh Ann writes with our colleagues Liz Goodwin and Marianna Sotomayor.
  • “Other Republicans, unified in their intent to redirect the briefing to the issue of security on the U.S.-Mexico border, also engaged in the argument. Cotton then asked the briefers for an exact date when funding for Ukraine would run out. A group of Republicans walked out in protest just 30 minutes after the briefing began.”

Republicans see leverage​

Republicans see leverage in a failed vote, suggesting it could push Democrats to realize they must accept a more conservative set of immigration policies to get the Israel and Ukraine funding.
“I think … Schumer will realize we’re serious,” said Sen. John Cornyn (R-Tex.). “And then the discussions will begin in earnest.”

As we’ve written multiple times, border policy and immigration is one of the most difficult issues that Congress faces, unable to pass potential solutions for more than two decades. A negotiation behind closed doors with just 5 percent of the Senate led by Sen. James Lankford (R-Okla.), who is untested in the art of bipartisan negotiations, is a tall task. And it’s even more difficult to complete in a matter of weeks when it is tied to unrelated issues like military aid to Ukraine.


The Biden administration continues to warn of the consequences of failing to send more aid to Ukraine.
“I can tell you where people are who do not want to see the supplemental pass,” Secretary of State Antony Blinken said Tuesday night at a U.S. Global Leadership Coalition event. “They're sitting in offices in Beijing, in Moscow and Tehran.”

In the House​

Like the Senate, the House also received a classified briefing on Tuesday. It was not nearly as dramatic, however.

For the time being, House Republicans are watching to see what the Senate does with the supplemental. Republicans argue they’ve already passed Israel aid and border security, so the onus is on the Senate, as many House Republicans are in no hurry to vote on aid for Ukraine.

Sanders to oppose supplemental vote​



Meanwhile, the border is not the only issue in the supplemental causing heartburn.


Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) said in an interview Tuesday night that he’ll vote against the procedural vote on the supplemental because the measure lacks conditions on the $10 billion in military aid for Israel.
  • “We have to end our complicity,” Sanders said. “I think the military strategy of the [Prime Minister Benjamin] Netanyahu government has not been to go to war against Hamas, but to go to war against the Palestinian people. What we are seeing is horrific; it is devastating. We should not be part of it.”
Sanders is the first member of the Senate Democratic Caucus to come out against the measure, which also includes $60 billion in funding for Ukraine.

In a letter to his colleagues sent Tuesday evening signaling his move, Sanders argued that the Israeli government is waging an “immoral” war.
While Sanders was the first senator in the caucus to call for conditions on aid to Israel, that number is growing. No other lawmaker in the caucus, however, has said they would oppose a broad funding package that also includes money for Ukraine.
However, a group of Democrats is “urged President Biden to do more to protect civilians in Gaza, writing in a letter sent Tuesday that the U.S. should ensure weapons it is transferring to Israel are not being used in a way that violates international law,” Liz writes. “The letter also expressed concerns about a lack of ‘transparency’ of those transfers.”



Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), who led the letter, said it is “important” that any aid package “reiterate” compliance with U.S. and international law, but there is not such language in the current aid package.
“Sens. Tim Kaine (D-Va.), Martin Heinrich (D-New Mexico) and Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.) also signed on to the letter requesting a briefing by next week and the answers to a lengthy list of questions about the U.S.’s posture on Israel’s military strategy,” Liz notes.
R’s have said they wanted it tied to border security for weeks now. Should have at least offered a compromise.

Seems like a reasonable concession to get the aid through.
 
Well, none of what you say is true at all, well except maybe letting that worthless "wall" rot in the desert. In order to ask for asylum you need to be on American soil or a port of entry. How are you supposed to ask for asylum if you can't get into the country (legally at least) in the first place? Republicans are most certainly not following immigration law, what little of it there is anymore. Once again, you have provided your gripes but offered no solutions. "Keep em in Mexico" doesn't fix the problem. People are going to keep coming whether you like it or not and you need a better answer than "keep them in Mexico". Because if that's all you got, they will come in another way. Where is the Republican plan? They don't even have any idea of what they would include in a plan. Otherwise, they would talk about it. But they don't want to solve this problem so simpletons like you can get all angry about it and get that emotional vote they are looking for.
Everything I said was true and you know it. If you don't know it, educate yourself.
 
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3 months ago I asked what the exit plan was after we had been in this war for several months. I was told at that time that if we didn't have a plan in December that particular poster would acknowledge we really have a problem. Me thinks even the farthest leaning lefties are starting to question our endless gifts to Ukraine without an exit plan.


Thanks for posting.
 
3 months ago I asked what the exit plan was after we had been in this war for several months. I was told at that time that if we didn't have a plan in December that particular poster would acknowledge we really have a problem. Me thinks even the farthest leaning lefties are starting to question our endless gifts to Ukraine without an exit plan.


Thanks for posting.
We’re in this war? Huh
 
We’re in this war? Huh
We’re told that Ukraine will lose if the U.S. doesn’t act, so you tell me, are we in it now in a way we won’t be anymore if Biden and the Democrats refuse to bend on using blanket immigration parole to open the border?

I expect a compromise where the admin adjusts policy (probably agreeing to new soft caps and funding something for the GOP to wave) and the money flows to the MIC, but I’m cynical.
 
There's no way in hell the House passes a Ukraine aid bill unless there are border security measures attached. This has been known for weeks.

Political malpractice for Schumer not to at least get some kind of compromise bill done.....he's bad at his job.

If Ukraine aid is vitally important some kind of compromise was warranted.
 
There's no way in hell the House passes a Ukraine aid bill unless there are border security measures attached. This has been known for weeks.

Political malpractice for Schumer not to at least get some kind of compromise bill done.....he's bad at his job.

If Ukraine aid is vitally important some kind of compromise was warranted.
The Speaker is unfit but yeah Schumer.
 
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Irrelevant.

Ukraine aid has to get done.

House won't pass it unless border measures are included. Been known for weeks.

There has to be a compromise to get it done.
The House version of the Border Security bill was passed in May. The Senate version was proposed November 6th, and is close to the House version.

Funding to support illegals already here is off the table.

Biden said a couple of hours ago he's willing to talk.
 
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) said in an interview Tuesday night that he’ll vote against the procedural vote on the supplemental because the measure lacks conditions on the $10 billion in military aid for Israel.
  • “We have to end our complicity,” Sanders said. “I think the military strategy of the [Prime Minister Benjamin] Netanyahu government has not been to go to war against Hamas, but to go to war against the Palestinian people. What we are seeing is horrific; it is devastating. We should not be part of it.”
Sanders is the first member of the Senate Democratic Caucus to come out against the measure, which also includes $60 billion in funding for Ukraine.

In a letter to his colleagues sent Tuesday evening signaling his move, Sanders argued that the Israeli government is waging an “immoral” war.
While Sanders was the first senator in the caucus to call for conditions on aid to Israel, that number is growing. No other lawmaker in the caucus, however, has said they would oppose a broad funding package that also includes money for Ukraine.

I had no idea that Bernie was antisemitic.
 
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Yeah. You make unfounded claims all the time. Actually, you made the initial claim and I just responded to your claim, because your claim isn't true.

I don't have to prove anything to you.

Besides, you ignore the truth almost as much as Joes Place.

Google.
Dude, I wasn't even calling you out on that. I was genuinely interested in reading about this Republican plan they supposedly produced and no one anywhere is discussing at all. I'd like to see what they wanted to do. But your reaction to that simple question tells me everything I need to know. As for claims, I almost always back it up with a source. It isn't my problem if you don't read them.

But since you asked:
 
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White House open to new asylum limits for Ukraine aid, source says​


The White House and U.S. Congress are racing to strike a deal that would deliver military aid to the two allied nations while discouraging illegal immigration across the U.S.-Mexico border with only a week until lawmakers depart for a Christmas break.

This would be a Win/Win for Joe.

 
Dude, I wasn't even calling you out on that. I was genuinely interested in reading about this Republican plan they supposedly produced and no one anywhere is discussing at all. I'd like to see what they wanted to do. But your reaction to that simple question tells me everything I need to know. As for claims, I almost always back it up with a source. It isn't my problem if you don't read them.

But since you asked:
That doesn't have anything to do with the GOP House passing a bill in March, and the Senate proposing essentially the same bill in November.

As far as calling me out, when you reply to my post wanting a source, yeah, you are calling me out.
 
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That doesn't have anything to do with the GOP House passing a bill in March, and the Senate proposing essentially the same bill in November.

As far as calling me out, when you reply to my post wanting a source, yeah, you are calling me out.
Then provide a source. It isn't hard.

As for this bill that you still haven't shown is actually being discussed. Great, from what you've said it sounds like they are working on something. We'll see if it goes anywhere.
 
This "conflict" started over a year and a half ago. We seem closer to sending American troops than having an exit plan. At one point the conversation was "we are getting a great bang for our buck", anyone still of the belief all this money is actually going to help "Bohdan" kill "Vlad"?



Anyone want to try to say what we are seeing from the Whitehouse is in some way great leadership?





We need an exit plan.
 
Then provide a source. It isn't hard.

As for this bill that you still haven't shown is actually being discussed. Great, from what you've said it sounds like they are working on something. We'll see if it goes anywhere.
The House actually passed a bill. Look it up. You are the one claiming the GOP had done nothing.
 
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