except it won’t affect the wealthy who can afford it.
Republicans working on making Healthcare worse…
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We have to do this. Cancer survivors are breaking the backs of the rich.
The US health care for profit system is just pathetic. Worst health outcomes. Worst life expectancy I am so happy to not have to pay these excessive premiums to get less care and still more out of pocket than international and especially in the EU.
It’s insane we all aren’t on the same page with this when it screws all of us no matter the party affiliation. We just take it. The older one gets the more the reality hits us in the face.
They only have concepts of their healthcare plan. If the voters just keep them in power for another 10-15 years they will have the new plan ready to roll out.
So you guys think the 5th circuit ruling should stand? You don't want the Supreme Court to look at this?
No, it’s insane that less than 50% of the population pays federal incomes taxes. There are too many freeloading D’s.
Anything that makes healthcare more expensive in America sucks. It’s a scam. Apparently Cons are trying to end the $35 insulin cap. They. Don’t. Give. A. Shit. They don’t have to worry about high costs of anything. I mean, this crap isn’t hard to see. Costs of nothing will be lowered, and voters like you will dismiss it all out of hand.
We don’t have a for profit system. 🤡
Some years ago, the Nobel-laureate economist Milton Friedman studied the history of healthcare supply in America. In a 1992 study published by the Hoover Institution, entitled “Input and Output in Health Care,” Friedman noted that 56 percent of all hospitals in America were privately owned and for-profit in 1910. After 60 years of subsidies for government-run hospitals, the number had fallen to about 10 percent. It took decades, but by the early 1990s government had taken over almost the entire hospital industry. That small portion of the industry that remains for-profit is regulated in an extraordinarily heavy way by federal, state and local governments so that many (perhaps most) of the decisions made by hospital administrators have to do with regulatory compliance as opposed to patient/customer service in pursuit of profit. It is profit, of course, that is necessary for private-sector hospitals to have the wherewithal to pay for healthcare.
Friedman’s key conclusion was that, as with all governmental bureaucratic systems, government-owned or -controlled healthcare created a situation whereby increased “inputs,” such as expenditures on equipment, infrastructure, and the salaries of medical professionals, actually led to decreased“outputs” in terms of the quantity of medical care. For example, while medical expenditures rose by 224 percent from 1965–1989, the number of hospital beds per 1,000 population fell by 44 percent and the number of beds occupied declined by 15 percent. Also during this time of almost complete governmental domination of the hospital industry (1944–1989), costs per patient-day rose almost 24-fold after inflation is taken into account.
The more money that has been spent on government-run healthcare, the less healthcare we have gotten. This kind of result is generally true of all government bureaucracies because of the absence of any market feedback mechanism. Since there are no profits in an accounting sense, by definition, in government, there is no mechanism for rewarding good performance and penalizing bad performance. In fact, in all government enterprises, exactly the opposite is true: bad performance (failure to achieve ostensible goals, or satisfy “customers”) is typically rewarded with larger budgets. Failure to educate children leads to more money for government schools. Failure to reduce poverty leads to larger budgets for welfare state bureaucracies. This is guaranteed to happen with healthcare socialism as well.
Costs always explode whenever the government gets involved, and governments always lie about it. In 1970 the government forecast that the hospital insurance (HI) portion of Medicare would be “only” $2.9 billion annually. Since the actual expenditures were $5.3 billion, this was a 79 percent underestimate of cost. In 1980 the government forecast $5.5 billion in HI expenditures; actual expenditures were more than four times that amount — $25.6 billion. This bureaucratic cost explosion led the government to enact 23 new taxes in the first 30 years of Medicare. (See Ron Hamoway, “The Genesis and Development of Medicare,” in Roger Feldman, ed., American Health Care, Independent Institute, 2000, pp. 15-86). The Obama administration’s claim that a government takeover of healthcare will somehow magically reduce costs is not to be taken seriously. Government never, ever, reduces the cost of doing anything.
All government-run healthcare monopolies, whether they are in Canada, the UK, or Cuba, experience an explosion of both cost and demand — since healthcare is “free.” Socialized healthcare is not really free, of course; the true cost is merely hidden, since it is paid for by taxes.
(Mises.org)
Biden just gave $200 billion + to Ukraine. That would have gone a long with with U.S. healthcare.
Biden felt that forgiving student loans for wealthy kids is more important than healthcare.
That'd be a great point if you could point to a single time the GOP wanted to do anything positive with healthcare.
That’s easy.. Trump invented the Covid vaccine.
no. he gave funding to companies that invented the covid vaccines...something that any president in office would have done during a pandemic.
Where's his plan to replace the ACA with something better?
It's comical that Rs have been bitching about replacing the ACA for 15 years now but still have no plans yet.
ACA? Did’t Obama say that would bring healthcare costs down, and costs went up?
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I know more farmers who are living off the government than actual poor people. What about you?
Republicans have been trying to erase the first black president's legacy since 2016.
And they still don't have their own plan, or the votes to do anything about it.
Farm aid can be cut. As can a lot of other handouts.
Wow nice dumb post. How much did Aetna make last quarter in profit?
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Remember in July of 2020 when Trump said he would reveal in two weeks his "tremendous" health care plan to replace Obamacare? As usual it was just more Trump bs and he never produced one. And here we are four plus years later and he's still screaming about replacing Obamacare and yet again with no new plan in sight.
Yeah this is one of those “read all the words” situations.
I wasn’t going to trot out the “those who can do” line but …
Uh, no. That would be the one that provided coverage for Medicare enrollees for the first time in the history of the program. No statutory restrictions on coverage for any products or any required manufacturer opt in.
You are such an idiot. Pharma keeps older drugs out of the market and no MD working for a profit driven center will advice using fever few for headaches, methylene blue for illness, and so on. A few will have parents due olive oil/garlic for childhood ear infections, but therein ia a major part of the problem and you are a part of the problem
Can you provide the breakdown of Republican/Democrat deaths. Thanks.
Nobody can, but a lot of deaths in NY were just what I described. I'm not Dem or Rep, but I would have not gone in and put my life in the hands of my RN wife. She has done both traditional pharma med as well as functional med and is now 100 percent functional.
That’s truly horrible what happened in NY, but they messed up all the way around.
RNs don't have a degree with scientific rigor so that makes sense.
She worked for an MD that wasn't functional but practical. Also worked for a functional.
The scientific medical community does have bias btw.
Yes, the scientific medical community is biased by science and data. Functional data is sometimes non-existent.
