Lol, but not let Biden be in said debate huh? You guys are all in on whatever the msm feeds you.
Put em all on there and let the dust settle.
Funny how scared the big pharma owned media left is of RFK Jr. when nearly all of his policy positions would be right up the mainstream dem party's alley.
Most people think being antivax is a big issue when it comes to the public health because it affects everyone . You claim not to support his position on vaccines, but you clearly don’t see it as a big issue.
Yesterday RFK was an outsider, today he is basically a mainstream Democrat only he can unite the country for some reason. Not sure why he can unite the country if the last two mainstream Democrats couldn't. Maybe he just means anti-vaccine folks aren't really ideologically against mainstream Democrat policies, they just want representation of their vaccine skepticism and right now the Alex Jones/alt right wing is their best representation
What things about rfk's stance on vaccines do you disagree with? Give specific examples.
@DeangeloVickers seems to think vaccines are the issue that are holding us apart and if people that believe vaccines are a net positive could just set aside their beliefs, the country would be united… but he’s not an antivaxxer hahaha. Can’t make that shit up.
Here's a start. Note that Osterholm is someone the far right was touting as an expert.
His vax stances aren't a deal breaker for me bc 1. His positions have largely been twisted from Vax safety concerns into "anti vaxxer". 2. He's not going to ban vaccines should he become potus but he is going to make absolutely sure they're safe, and not be under the thumb of big pharma.
I'm not remotely saying this. Vaccines are more than a net positive, they're essential for the human existence. But they haven't all been perfect, haven't all been safe, and haven't always been presented with the transparency they should be. I believe an administration with a very critical set of expectations towards big pharma along with not having been lobbied by them for decades would be a good thing.
Saying vaccines cause autism is not just being critical of big pharma. You are gaslighting everyone for disagreeing with him and then reframing RFKJ’s argument to be something it’s not. Why you got such a hard on for RFKJ anyway? You only post on here to rip on Dems so why the love for him?
I have not seem the evidence to link autism to vaccines. So I agree with the skepticism. Having said that, I am all for more research on the topic.
Hasn’t the claim about autism been refuted extensively? How long until we should start believing the science? At this point, it seems like people are just interested in the conspiracy and have no interest in the science.
It has. But there are a lot of gullible rubes out there.
I'm not an antivaxer, I don't belive vaccines cause autism. But if someone smarter than me can prove it does cause autism, then I want to know that. Medicine is always evolving.
They have ruled out vaccines as a cause for autism and the rise is due to better diagnosis.
"They" also have told us glyphosate is safe to be sprayed on our foods, gmos are fine to use to grow foods, and an ungodly amount of known carcinogens, additives, modified oils and other chemicals are in practically everything they say are fine to ingest. Personally this is where I believe the blame lies with the autism spike vs vaccines but I'm no "expert", so it's just another conspiracy theory. "They" know better.
That comment struck something dormant. Was it meant in jest or a sober comment? Is that phrase 'anti-vaxer' even still a thing, I haven't thought about it in about a year.
No "they" haven't. "They" are the people who determined those things are harmful.
Yet these things are still in our foods. Are there not scientists at the fda? Or that report these things to our elected representatives? Why would they possibly allow 330 million Americans to be literally poisoned by the foods we eat and the chemicals we use?
So what you are saying is the science is now “they” to you and you will not believe them. Sure sounds like you are an anti-vaxxer and are leaning into conspiracies…
People who are smarter than you are saying it doesn’t cause autism. Why not listen to them?
You've got a weird sort of projection problem with me don't you? Try debating the topic and actual points of my post or better yet just put me on ignore. I don't think you've ever responded with an actual point, always just some sort of personal attack.
But you have no problem with politicians telling you “they” is the problem. You seem to always find a way to align with right wing talking points… what part do you want to debate? The fact the RFKJ is pushing antivax BS? I already went there. I’ve debated the topic and pointed out how you are a partisan hack and it didn’t take much.
What a completely garbage post. Why would a "partisan hack" be advocating for people to consider supporting a lifelong Democrat? About the only explanation is you're so entrenched in the partisan tribal warfare garbage you can't fathom anything else.
Bobby Jr on the ballot could get trump elected. Otherwise, he’s an interesting and viable candidate regardless of stance on vax.
Not if he's on instead of Biden. And I'm actually not sure he wouldn't win in a 3 way race if given a legit opportunity. 60% of the country is ready but unfortunately the puppet masters won't let it happen.
You are for Democrats as long as they agree with you on the fringe right wing points like antivaxxer BS.
Why is a hardcore Republican like yourself advocating for a guy whose only right wing position is antivax? Yet you still claim to not support that position. It makes zero sense.
They aren't. The amounts are below any toxic levels. That you believe the government is allowing your food to be poisoned is tin foil cap level nuttery.
Because it causes some turmoil among "the libs".
He possibly could beat d loser 1 on 1 but he’s very formidable and could cost Joe if it were a three way race. Too important that d loser never see the WH to f around too much.
He does not have that “it” that his dad and uncle possessed. A bit cray cray, which is OK if the right cray cray. His direction is concerning.
You obviously didn't read my post. I don't think vaccines cause autism. But if someone out there believes it does, then I encourage them to research it. If new research proves that vaccines do cause autism, then I want to know this and my opinion would change.
