So again, hotez is ineligible to debate based on his lies. got it.
RFK JR is on Rogan today if you want to check out his brand of crazy
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the vaccine denial argument is completely incoherent and it is yet another sign that the national dialogue is diminishing at an alarming rate.
No; he hasn't.
You may not fully understand the topic, but that's another matter entirely.
Of course he does.
He doesn't need you to believe him; his goal is simply to have his wacko opinions repeated.
One side refuses to have a dialog. They literally operate under the demand of agreeing with their position or you can't speak period.
I listed several examples of times he has lied. You're being dishonest now.
And it's not the side you think it is.
One side publishes their work in open journals.
The other side makes shit up, and Gish Gallops from one lie to the next, ignoring all the peer-reviewed work in those journals.
Of course that's a poor argument. Here we have 2 men, the one who would love nothing more than a recorded debate in front of millions of people, and the other is a chicken shit who doesn't want their position questioned. RFK WANTS to give his adversary an opportunity to expose his position.
If at any point Hotez catches RFK in a lie, simply call him out on it. That's exactly what you do in a debate. Hotez has the loser position and he must know it. He obviously doesn't want to be questioned and exposed and doesn't want to have the opportunity to expose RFK. I wonder who has the truth.
Then Hotez should be chomping at the bit to call him out on it!
Yea because it made them a ton of easy cash
completely false. the science community has been very open with having dialog with serious people and i have listened to numerous podcasts where scientists have been brought on to have a real discussion about vaccines. rogan and rfk are not serious people with regards to the vaccine discussion.
fwiw i do wish hotez called their bluff and came on the show because they are all hat no cattle when it comes to their “data” but i get his reasoning.
This is absolutely untrue. Dr Malone was removed from all social media for dissenting from the narrative. The inventor of mrna technology and his voice was silenced by the left. You can't gaslight your way out of the truth. You're wrong, and the left does not allow "wrongthink" that is inconvenient to their narrative.
Put in a little effort and I'm sure even an invalid like you can find it
Yep
To spread nonsense propaganda on a wide open stage.
Because he cannot get his "opinions" published in any reputable journals.
This is exactly it.
No; he shouldn't.
As he's already stated for you: scientific discourse does not occur in a "debate" forum. It occurs in published works. Because the concepts and detail are not well matched to a "gotcha" Jerry Springer debate forum.
Then go rail at the social media outlets, which saw through the lies, and refused to allow their platforms to be party to those lies.
He could spread that "propaganda" on Rogan show regardless, hotez adds very little in regards to viewership. This entire point is once again a massive cope for the cowardice on display here.
And he can reach many times more people with your "debate" forum
NOW you seem to be "getting it".
Calling out pharma and the regulatory agencies for all their BS lies and underhanded deceit is NOT going to be discussed in published works. If Hotez has a clean position then he or some other representative should be more than happy to defend it and expose the opposition.
If RFK has a weak position, then they could call him out on it though. If it's nonsense and propaganda, then expose it!
He's been exposed over and over. It doesn't matter to people like you or to more normal Rogan listeners. Joe Rogan would, once again, agree with the doctor on his podcast and then contradict himself in his next episode with an anti-vax guest. Rogan is not a serious broadcaster. The only reason to go on his show is to sell copies of your book or promote your own podcast.
I’m not all that interested in the COVID stuff, but why would Hotez bother with this?
It’d be like going on Ben Shapiro’s or Charlie Kirk’s show to debate Ron DeSantis on the “Woke Mind Virus.” It’s a no-win setting.
It’d be like going on Ben Shapiro’s or Charlie Kirk’s show to debate Ron DeSantis on the “Woke Mind Virus.” It’s a no-win setting.
It has to do with his uneducated (or intentionally distorted) view on thimerosal. He either ignored the actual studies published or he didn't know they existed. Either is damning because he's either been lying or is just stupid.
No. RFK Jr. wants exposure and legitimacy. There is absolutely no reason to give his lies and ignorance a stage. It would be the same as giving a flat earther a debate audience.
You are a gullible rube.
He wouldn't. His dumb ass would get exposed and he wouldn't have a leg to stand on. That's why.
So you believe vaccines cause autism as well? Are you in agreement with RFK on the 5G stuff?
Gullible. Rube.
Don't question the science. Just trust the authorities. We can all see where that got us during COVID.
If anyone is gullible it's the one who DOESN'T question and just settles for face value.
Whatever god or aliens you believe in - assuming you believe - could come down themselves and emblazon a message telling you you’re wrong about vaccines on golden tablets and you'd walk away from it saying: “Yeah, I’m not so sure about that. Can’t believe god himself is in big pharma’s pocket!” That’s how far down the rabbit hole you are. You can’t be talked to seriously about the topic. Soz buddy!
No; it's a very capitalist take.
Go bitch at the platforms that don't want vaccine disinformation disseminated on their sites.
I've already supplied proof of hotez supplying misinformation. You have no substance to your argument. Per usual.
I'm sure the MAGA moron down the street with the flags and bumper stickers would love to 'debate' Biden too.
But he wont' get a shot either because like Kennedy he's not a viable candidate.
But he wont' get a shot either because like Kennedy he's not a viable candidate.
Finally someone who understands the nature of this issue. Thank you.
It's so easy to label someone as anti-vax without understanding exactly why. I have no idea if any of the compounds used in vaccines were unsafe or are unsafe. I do know there's a tremendous benefit in traditional vaccines that allow our bodies to generate antibodies naturally.
While I disagree with RFK Jr. on his position, as well as knowing he's been completely disingenuous at times, I don't think that makes him crazy. We thought mercury based antiseptics were safe for decades. Talcum powder was safe. Roundup was safe. Saccharin was safe. Eggs were safe, then weren't safe, and are now safe again. We don't know what we don't know.
NEWSFLASH: WE UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHY. AND HAVE UNDERSTOOD FOR MANY MANY YEARS NOW.
