Russia out
- Thread starter Thawkin
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No. Only the track and field team has been banned by the international track and field association (IAAF), but the IOC could overturn the ban.
As for the ban extending to other sports, the story I linked below quotes the IOC president as saying if other Russian sports organizations were proved to be ridden with state-sponsored cheating, they, too, could be kept from the Olympics.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/18/sports/olympics/russia-barred-rio-summer-olympics-doping.html?_r=0
I know it has to be proved, but I would be Claude Raines at Rick's Place in Casablanca if all of the Russians weren't doping. Shocked, shocked!!
I used to admire Lance Armstrong. In the end, what he was really best at was keeping his cheating undetected and CRUSHING/RUINING the lives of anyone attempting to shed light on the subject at hand.
Whether he cheated or not His Foundation has done Tons for people, I can live with being lied to,
I don't give him a pass for helping some people while trying to destroy others. He's a bad guy at his core for doing that stuff.
Thanks. I love Peter Sellers. I laugh just looking at Inspector Clouseau.
If I were a Penn State fan, I would never say this. Ever.
Hey, he never tested positive...
He tested positive for steroids four times in the 1999 tour. He passed eleven tests that tour and blamed the positives on a cream he was using for "saddle sores". At the time, the testers were unaware you could dope via cream and allowed that excuse.
His foundation had to return a couple hundred million dollars to donors when 60 minutes revealed they were using almost no money for cancer research. The foundations response was that it was used to promote cancer "awareness".
Meaning they were using the funds to market themselves to raise more funds.
I'd be very wary of many of these non profits. They start out with the best intentions but then they have a board to pay. Those folks usually develop a healthy sense of entitlement. Admin salaries pile up...For example, Wounded Warriors started off doing great things with an outstanding mission. Then, the top execs start thinking they are the reason the $$ starts to pile up...the cars and lavish conventions follow.
Still better than pretty much all government programs though.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/03/1...top-executives-amid-spending-controversy.html
I've heard of a very popular "foundation" keeping 90% of the money given to it and only dishing out 10% to charities. It's probably a conspiracy though.
One of the positive aspects of donating to the Combined Federal Campaign is that all charities list the percentage of overhead. If more than 10-15% is admin then I won't contribute.
At least he came clean and also apologized. I give him credit. Every top guy in that sport, and most sports was cheating. His mistake was just not ignoring the accusers.
It's hard to be in his shoes--the best in his profession and dopers beating him. Everyone doing it. You almost had to if that was your profession. Plus, not harming anybody else. That's where he screwed up. Hurting people. Like I said, at least he admitted it and apologized.
You mean the one that accepts millions from countries that are unfriendly to women and gay rights? Yes, just a vast right-wing conspiracy. But those gun nut Christians tho...
Am I the only one that cannot believe the stupidity of people who say things like "It is a good thing no one else had a gun in the bart in Orlando or a lot more people could have died"?
As if to say that stricter gun control laws would have prevented more deaths or looser laws would have caused more. How exactly that applies to the Orlando shooting is beyond me.
Is Obama and Clinton that stupid or do they think we are or is it the press that is that stupid?
I know it is a little off topic, but it just blurted out of me.
As if to say that stricter gun control laws would have prevented more deaths or looser laws would have caused more. How exactly that applies to the Orlando shooting is beyond me.
Is Obama and Clinton that stupid or do they think we are or is it the press that is that stupid?
I know it is a little off topic, but it just blurted out of me.
I'll just keep donating my money to local wrestling programs that I know need it. If I don't know what the money is used for im not interested.
When you say it out loud, it does sound retarded but its just a way to frame a narrative...like "Common Sense Gun Laws." They don't want to take handguns, just the military looking ones that are purveyors of "mass death and destruction." Never mind that in 2011, out of the 8,000 ish plus gun murders (to include justifiable homicide), 323 were by rifle. 6,220 were by handgun. In England, they took away the semi auto rifles first, then the shotguns, then hunting rifles, and then the handguns. Hell, they can't even have target pistols unless they have been approved by God.
In places like Chicago and Washington D.C., gun laws are the strictest but the murder rates are some of the highest in the country because criminals and terrorists don't care. In San Bernardino, the shooter had those types of weapons despite them being outlawed by the state of California.
Sorry, this has just been a debate I have had repeatedly over the past few days and what I have learned is that lefties are largely ignorant when it comes to guns. I am not a big gun guy, not a hunter and only have one handgun. I am a big fan of the Constitution though and think one should be able to own however many guns they feel is necessary.
Same here bro...I donate to individuals or small organizations that I know are doing good.
It's why the country is more divided now then ever. If youre the smartest guy in the room and unwilling to listen to anyone that doesn't agree with your rhetoric you will never accomplish anything that makes sense to the majority.
At least get your facts correct before spouting off. Chicago does not have the highest murder rates when you count per capita. Yes they have more that Pittsburgh, but there population is much much higher.
Heard they were going to replace the city welcome signs.
Heard they were going to replace the city welcome signs.
That would work.
On the other hand, by far the best "Welcome to Chicago," I've ever experienced was the highway sign we saw on our way to a Dead show at Soldier Field back in the early 90's proclaiming, "Grateful Dead Fans take LSD to Soldier Field Concert Venue. (Lake Shore Dr.)"
I agree that starting off by stating that folks who hold differernt views than your own are simply ignorant is precisely the problem with the discourse today. We tend to argue against straw-men and misrepresent the positions of those we do not agree with.
There are intelligent, data-driven arguments in favor of regulation of gun ownership and many statistics which show high degree of correlation between lax gun laws and increased firearm-related injury and fatality. The real argument is how do we balance the current 2nd ammendment interpretation of an individual right to own firearms with pragmatic legislation which increases public safety. I think there is middle ground to be found.
However I also believe that even in the off season, this board is not the place to have this discussion.
There are intelligent, data-driven arguments in favor of regulation of gun ownership and many statistics which show high degree of correlation between lax gun laws and increased firearm-related injury and fatality. The real argument is how do we balance the current 2nd ammendment interpretation of an individual right to own firearms with pragmatic legislation which increases public safety. I think there is middle ground to be found.
However I also believe that even in the off season, this board is not the place to have this discussion.
I'm sure Cedar Rapids will have a similar sign someday as long as the Chicago migratrtion continues.
Heard they were going to replace the city welcome signs.
Statistics can be made to say anything. Accidents can happen, but common sense says that law abiding citizens should have the right to protect themselves any way they want to. We can always make laws to stop people from commenting a crime and with it usually comes a loss of freedom. If they break the law with the gun, they should be punished.
The thing that bothers me the most is the politicians have armed guards protecting them, but we are not allowed to have a gun to protect ourselves. We pay for their protection and can't legally protect ourself. Unless they break into our house (in most states). When the politicians want to lead by example, then I might listen to them.
As I said above, I'm not really interested in debating this issue on a wrestling forum, I'd much prefer to do my patriotic duty and discuss just how big a group of cheaters the Russians are. That said, I will briefly respond then bow out of the discussion.
In my opinion, just about no one is arguing that people don't have a right to own firearms to defend themselves; this is the kind of straw man argument I mentioned in my post above. Heller vs. DC and McDonald vs. Chicago have clearly enumerated that US citizens have a 2nd amendment right to bear arms to defend themselves. Very few (in the main stream) are seriously arguing that US citizens do not have rights to purchase and carry arms for sport and self defense. It's the law of the land. I'm sure someone can point to a hysterical individual calling for elimination of public ownership of firearms, but it’s really not part of any serious debate.
There is a discussion of what kinds of regulations will be helpful in preventing dangerous individuals’ easy access to firearms and what laws would help decrease the prevalence of gun related death in our country. I think that’s a fine debate to have, but unfortunately it’s hard to do so in the polarized atmosphere we have today. I agree that statistics can be manipulated however I still think that peer-reviewed scholarly research has a place in the discussion. Ultimately, I think that a good middle ground can be reached, however both sides have to first, remove the blinders and discuss the issues in good faith. Until then we’ll just keep arguing with straw men.
Now, let's get back to talking wrestling. I think we'll definitely find common ground there.
If we can't argue about shooting guns we may as well argue about who shoots the best single and double. I hope those are never outlawed.
I hope those are never outlawed.Similar threads
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