Russia out

[Azchief32]

As I said above, I'm not really interested in debating this issue on a wrestling forum, I'd much prefer to do my patriotic duty and discuss just how big a group of cheaters the Russians are. That said, I will briefly respond then bow out of the discussion.

In my opinion, just about no one is arguing that people don't have a right to own firearms to defend themselves; this is the kind of straw man argument I mentioned in my post above. Heller vs. DC and McDonald vs. Chicago have clearly enumerated that US citizens have a 2nd amendment right to bear arms to defend themselves. Very few (in the main stream) are seriously arguing that US citizens do not have rights to purchase and carry arms for sport and self defense. It's the law of the land. I'm sure someone can point to a hysterical individual calling for elimination of public ownership of firearms, but it’s really not part of any serious debate.


There is a discussion of what kinds of regulations will be helpful in preventing dangerous individuals’ easy access to firearms and what laws would help decrease the prevalence of gun related death in our country. I think that’s a fine debate to have, but unfortunately it’s hard to do so in the polarized atmosphere we have today. I agree that statistics can be manipulated however I still think that peer-reviewed scholarly research has a place in the discussion. Ultimately, I think that a good middle ground can be reached, however both sides have to first, remove the blinders and discuss the issues in good faith. Until then we’ll just keep arguing with straw men.

Now, let's get back to talking wrestling. I think we'll definitely find common ground there.

Akaoni...Laments the fact that a political discussion is on a wrestling forum, proceeds to give two long posts about his position on the topic...in both closing paragraphs, tells us to get back on wrestling.

Ready when you are

 

[akaoni]

Akaoni...Laments the fact that a political discussion is on a wrestling forum, proceeds to give two long posts about his position on the topic...in both closing paragraphs, tells us to get back on wrestling.

Ready when you are

I blame the 2nd post on the 3rd glass of wine.

 

[akaoni]

Here's a graphic for 2013 violations per the World Anti-Doping Agency I found over on the Mat. Russia is head and shoulders above everyone with over 200 violations and 32 wrestling-specific violations. Turkey and India have the next highest numbers with 24 and 9 respectively. According to the WADA 2013 report the US only had 2 wrestling-related violations, which is edifying.

 

[Chopper25]

I blame the 2nd post on the 3rd glass of wine.

You rebel...you've gotta be a college professor or something along those lines.