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large as a road game that the Hawks could be competitive...but gonna be very tough win to bring home.
Ron Harper looks like he is back in shape and he is hawk kryptonite in his career.
He is averaging 19 points per game in 5 games.
He is 20-29 from the arc(69%)
in those games, which is a higher than his ft shooting vs Iowa.
Run him off the arc,make him drive and foul him at the rim.
 
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Yeah, the rest of this month will go a long way to telling if we are a tourney team or are going to be left out. Rutgers is a pretty decent club with some matchup problems for us. If we can rebound and get out and run, I like our chances.
 
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hawkjt said:
large as a road game that the Hawks could be competitive...but gonna be very tough win to bring home.
Ron Harper looks like he is back in shape and he is hawk kryptonite in his career.
He is averaging 19 points per game in 5 games.
He is 20-29 from the arc(69%)
in those games, which is a higher than his ft shooting vs Iowa.
Run him off the arc,make him drive and foul him at the rim.
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The 3-point stats on Harper against Iowa are astounding. Even scarier is that he seems to have really found his stroke this year. Was 27%, 35% and 31% on 3's the first 3 years, and this year he is 47% from behind the line.

I fully expect him to go nuts on Wednesday. They have been good at home (beat Purdue) but rather brutal on the road. Big game for Iowa, these are the types of games that make things easier or harder toward the end of the season.
 
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Would love to win but would be very surprised if we do. Harper is an anti-Iowa all American and we don’t have the kind of size and athleticism they typically have on the inside.

Seems to me like these are games Joe T usually goes off on. He’s been playing really steady of late and I love how he’s developed his mid range jumper. Would like to see him shoot a little more.
 
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hawkjt said:
large as a road game that the Hawks could be competitive...but gonna be very tough win to bring home.
Ron Harper looks like he is back in shape and he is hawk kryptonite in his career.
He is averaging 19 points per game in 5 games.
He is 20-29 from the arc(69%)
in those games, which is a higher than his ft shooting vs Iowa.
Run him off the arc,make him drive and foul him at the rim.
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We need a Connor to Wheezie type play again. :) Though really would hope it wouldn't need to come down to that for a win. But that was some play to remember. And Baer was part of it too.
 
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Would love to win but would be very surprised if we do. Harper is an anti-Iowa all American and we don’t have the kind of size and athleticism they typically have on the inside.

Seems to me like these are games Joe T usually goes off on. He’s been playing really steady of late and I love how he’s developed his mid range jumper. Would like to see him shoot a little more.
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Yeah, JoeT will be a key

JoeT can get his shot off with his quickness and really has been playing like a upper level B1G level PG recently.

My guess is JBO at the 2G is going to continue to have a tough time getting his shot off from behind 3pt line.

Iowa is not the same team last year with Weezy, Fredrick as fellow 3pt threats and Garza demanding double teams--JBO as the only elite level 3pt shooter is easy to concentrate on for defense.
 
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Yeah, JoeT will be a key

JoeT can get his shot off with his quickness and really has been playing like a upper level B1G level PG recently.

My guess is JBO at the 2G is going to continue to have a tough time getting his shot off from behind 3pt line.

Iowa is not the same team last year with Weezy, Fredrick as fellow 3pt threats and Garza demanding double teams--JBO as the only elite level 3pt shooter is easy to concentrate on for defense.
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Jbo had the same problem last year. It's not like he's being doubled or anything. Everyone on the floor with the possible exception of Rebraca has the ability to hit the 3 which is more than you can say about last year when Cmac was on the floor 25-30 per game. JoeT is even a threat to bury a 3 this year. There's also a ton of defensive attention on Keegan this year when he goes inside. Jbo hasn't really been able to take advantage of open shots of late either. Need him to break out of the little slump he's been in the last few games.
 
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Jbo had the same problem last year. It's not like he's being doubled or anything. Everyone on the floor with the possible exception of Rebraca has the ability to hit the 3 which is more than you can say about last year when Cmac was on the floor 25-30 per game. JoeT is even a threat to bury a 3 this year. There's also a ton of defensive attention on Keegan this year when he goes inside. Jbo hasn't really been able to take advantage of open shots of late either. Need him to break out of the little slump he's been in the last few games.
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His problem is he's short and slow.
Can't defend and any athletic player can defend him by staying close to him.
Since they never run him off numerous screens to get shots he's not hard to guard either.
Tough combo. Lol
 
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thread reminds me of discussion in the days prior to the purdue football game.
i'll be back to see if post game discussions are also similar :)
 
I realize I'm spittin' into the wind, but I'll do it anyway:

Tomorrow night's starters should be:
* Sandfort
* Touissant
* Rebraca
* Kris Murray
* Keegan Murray

First off the bench: Perkins, Uliss, Josh, JBo, Cmac, PMac -- in that order.

Those starters give you 3 legit 3-point shooters. Sandfort's size could help on defense and on the boards. He's more capable of getting his shot off than the current version of JBo.

Perkins and Uliss add speed and quickness on defense and a pair of slashers to the rim. Josh has shown he can play defense and hit the boards. Bringing JBo fresh off the bench after the Rutgers D is a little tired MIGHT help him find space to shoot. Fran, apparently, isn't going to. CMac adds toughness, and PMac, well, he's been OK, but his play, objectively, deserves only about 10 minutes of PT to spell the Murray twins.

But Fran will, of course, stick with his immutable starting lineup, so I hope he'll go to the bench quickly and get everyone the appropriate minutes, regardless of who starts. Hey, dreaming is still legal in most states . . .
 
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FWIW4922463 said:
I realize I'm spittin' into the wind, but I'll do it anyway:

Tomorrow night's starters should be:
* Sandfort
* Touissant
* Rebraca
* Kris Murray
* Keegan Murray

First off the bench: Perkins, Uliss, Josh, JBo, Cmac, PMac -- in that order.

Those starters give you 3 legit 3-point shooters. Sandfort's size could help on defense and on the boards. He's more capable of getting his shot off than the current version of JBo.

Perkins and Uliss add speed and quickness on defense and a pair of slashers to the rim. Josh has shown he can play defense and hit the boards. Bringing JBo fresh off the bench after the Rutgers D is a little tired MIGHT help him find space to shoot. Fran, apparently, isn't going to. CMac adds toughness, and PMac, well, he's been OK, but his play, objectively, deserves only about 10 minutes of PT to spell the Murray twins.

But Fran will, of course, stick with his immutable starting lineup, so I hope he'll go to the bench quickly and get everyone the appropriate minutes, regardless of who starts. Hey, dreaming is still legal in most states . . .
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So CMac & PMac as 10th & 11th options. No agenda here.
 
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FWIW4922463 said:
I realize I'm spittin' into the wind, but I'll do it anyway:

Tomorrow night's starters should be:
* Sandfort
* Touissant
* Rebraca
* Kris Murray
* Keegan Murray

First off the bench: Perkins, Uliss, Josh, JBo, Cmac, PMac -- in that order.

Those starters give you 3 legit 3-point shooters. Sandfort's size could help on defense and on the boards. He's more capable of getting his shot off than the current version of JBo.

Perkins and Uliss add speed and quickness on defense and a pair of slashers to the rim. Josh has shown he can play defense and hit the boards. Bringing JBo fresh off the bench after the Rutgers D is a little tired MIGHT help him find space to shoot. Fran, apparently, isn't going to. CMac adds toughness, and PMac, well, he's been OK, but his play, objectively, deserves only about 10 minutes of PT to spell the Murray twins.

But Fran will, of course, stick with his immutable starting lineup, so I hope he'll go to the bench quickly and get everyone the appropriate minutes, regardless of who starts. Hey, dreaming is still legal in most states . . .
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but but but but but but pmac!!!!!!!
 
FWIW4922463 said:
I realize I'm spittin' into the wind, but I'll do it anyway:

Tomorrow night's starters should be:
* Sandfort
* Touissant
* Rebraca
* Kris Murray
* Keegan Murray

First off the bench: Perkins, Uliss, Josh, JBo, Cmac, PMac -- in that order.

Those starters give you 3 legit 3-point shooters. Sandfort's size could help on defense and on the boards. He's more capable of getting his shot off than the current version of JBo.

Perkins and Uliss add speed and quickness on defense and a pair of slashers to the rim. Josh has shown he can play defense and hit the boards. Bringing JBo fresh off the bench after the Rutgers D is a little tired MIGHT help him find space to shoot. Fran, apparently, isn't going to. CMac adds toughness, and PMac, well, he's been OK, but his play, objectively, deserves only about 10 minutes of PT to spell the Murray twins.

But Fran will, of course, stick with his immutable starting lineup, so I hope he'll go to the bench quickly and get everyone the appropriate minutes, regardless of who starts. Hey, dreaming is still legal in most states . . .
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Sandfort should not be starting!
 
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FWIW4922463 said:
I realize I'm spittin' into the wind, but I'll do it anyway:

Tomorrow night's starters should be:
* Sandfort
* Touissant
* Rebraca
* Kris Murray
* Keegan Murray

First off the bench: Perkins, Uliss, Josh, JBo, Cmac, PMac -- in that order.

Those starters give you 3 legit 3-point shooters. Sandfort's size could help on defense and on the boards. He's more capable of getting his shot off than the current version of JBo.

Perkins and Uliss add speed and quickness on defense and a pair of slashers to the rim. Josh has shown he can play defense and hit the boards. Bringing JBo fresh off the bench after the Rutgers D is a little tired MIGHT help him find space to shoot. Fran, apparently, isn't going to. CMac adds toughness, and PMac, well, he's been OK, but his play, objectively, deserves only about 10 minutes of PT to spell the Murray twins.

But Fran will, of course, stick with his immutable starting lineup, so I hope he'll go to the bench quickly and get everyone the appropriate minutes, regardless of who starts. Hey, dreaming is still legal in most states . . .
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Yes, you are spitting in the wind. I applaud the effort.

Some coaches like the stability of a standard starting line up, and a set of #2's - Fran is obviously one of those guys. Hopefully the minutes adjust to who is playing well.

Even though Fran has an impenetrable force shield around his brain so we can't see inside of it, I think that is what he tries to do.

Just a thought. Don't. Shoot. Messenger.
 
HawkLogic said:
Yeah, JoeT will be a key

JoeT can get his shot off with his quickness and really has been playing like a upper level B1G level PG recently.

My guess is JBO at the 2G is going to continue to have a tough time getting his shot off from behind 3pt line.

Iowa is not the same team last year with Weezy, Fredrick as fellow 3pt threats and Garza demanding double teams--JBO as the only elite level 3pt shooter is easy to concentrate on for defense.
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No need to worry. Fran will come up with his usual head scratching combinations to put on the floor.
 
Rutgers is in the spot where they were early last year. Last year, Harper (and Rutgers in general) came out on fire from three and Harper put himself on NBA draft boards. But their team free throw shooting was still terrible which meant it was only a matter of time before the well ran dry.

They’re leading the B1G in 3 point shooting during conference play, but their free throw shooting is still ranked in the bottom third of college basketball. Still doubt they’re a good shooting team.

I don’t think anyone would be surprised if they kept hitting threes against our defense, but folks should be much more concerned about their propensity to be physical on the glass.

Also from what I’ve seen from Rutgers over the years, they don’t play timid against pressure. That’s concerning because Iowa is still too reliant on other teams turning it over.
 
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Big game for both teams, can’t decide which team gets hurt most by a loss. Hawkeyes would again be under. 500 but a loss at home by Rutgers is a game they are probably expected to win. One of those big opportunity games Iowa gets every year and often let slip away. I wanna see fight in Hawks tonight. Time to make a run in the league, only down 2 games in loss column. Carpe Diem!!!!!!
 
What's the deal with Rutgers? Beat Purdue but got blown out by Penn State. Haven't watched a single game.
 
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