Satanic holiday celebration at Iowa Capitol 'forcibly canceled' by state, group says

[hawkedoff]

Satanists are simply Christians. They are petulant children throwing a tantrum like teenagers do sometimes. Lashing out at their father the lord by bringing around a bad boyfriend named Lucifer. Lucifer is like totally smart and stuff and has all the cool anti-establishment piercings to let you know. We already have Christian displays and don't neef any more. Your satan shrine just didn't make the cut based on its nonsense.

Atheists have the most displays of any religion in every government building. Lots of empty corners
 
We totally do need to respect the holidays of other actual religions in the state though at the time. If Islam wants to display something relative to their religion during Ramadan have at it. Jews can do the same for passover. Whatever.

 

[95Hawk]

Do you believe there are universal “rights” and “wrongs”?

Doesn’t really matter what I think.

I’d like my government to not define those things as it relates to freedom of speech or freedom of religious (or non-religious) expression.

For all you “don’t tread on me” types, it cracks me up that you’d openly support a government that wants to restrict a point of view.

Irony is dead.

 

[JimStarr777]

Doesn’t really matter what I think.

It certainly does. You asked who chooses what’s right and wrong. Do you believe there are universal rights and wrongs?

 

[JimStarr777]

I want to know where it will end and who gets to make the decision.

I just don’t support the open celebration of evil. Do you?

 

[95Hawk]

It certainly does. You asked who chooses what’s right and wrong. Do you believe there are universal rights and wrongs?

Nope. I’m a nihilist. And want it all burned down. We are well on the way.

 

[fivecardstud14]

I just don’t support the open celebration of evil. Do you?

Keep ‘em coming!

 

[ConvenientParking]

They’re still free to practice their do-called “religion”. They’re just not going to force it down people’s throats at the state Capitol.

You have no problem when your lousy religion is shoved down peoples' throats

 

[torbee]

They have Satan in their name. Do you know what Satan represents? Of course you do. Some day you will learn what supporting Satan has gained for you. It isn't good.

God you're dumb.

 

[torbee]

Not nearly as dumb as your “argument”.

Now you're calling the Founding Fathers dumb. Keep digging, dolt.

 

[DooBi]

God you're dumb.

I always know when I've made good points on this board. The personal attacks and meth jokes are all the responses I get. Makes my day.

 

[soonerinlOUisiana]

You have no problem when your lousy religion is shoved down peoples' throats

☝🏻see, this is the confrontation I was talking about. We’re not shoving our religion down anyone’s throats. We just happen to be the overwhelming majority.

 

[soonerinlOUisiana]

Now you're calling the Founding Fathers dumb. Keep digging, dolt.

You were talking about the decor of my church. Nothing to do with tge founding fathers. Can’t even keep up with your own blather.

 

[DFSNOLE]

I just don’t support the open celebration of evil. Do you?

Because of your Christian faith (?), you view Satanism as evil. I doubt many Satanist feel that way. Many have left christianity in favor of other religions or atheism. Islam was/is one of the fastest growing religions in the US and the world. Yet many find them to be evil.

 

[ConvenientParking]

☝🏻see, this is the confrontation I was talking about. We’re not shoving our religion down anyone’s throats. We just happen to be the overwhelming majority.

Snall town public schools are notoriously shitty about hiring staff who love shoving religion down peoples' throats

 

[soonerinlOUisiana]

Public school football coachea are notoriously shitty about shoving religion down peoples' throats

Yeah. Praying for the safety of their players is just soooooooooo oppressive.

 

[ConvenientParking]

Yeah. Praying for the safety of their players is just soooooooooo oppressive.

LOL of course you're dismissive of the coercion. Because you're a hypocrite. You know damn well The Lord's Prayer has not one god damn thing to do with player safety.

 

[JimStarr777]

Nope. I’m a nihilist. And want it all burned down. We are well on the way.

Well that explains a lot. You WANT death and destruction. DefInitely a liberal

 

[JimStarr777]

Because of your Christian faith (?), you view Satanism as evil.

Bwahahahaha. Look up the actual definition of Satan. Its very definition is the personification of evil. Weird you’re actually trying to argue it isn’t.

 

[DFSNOLE]

Bwahahahaha. Look up the actual definition of Satan. Its very definition is the personification of evil. Weird you’re actually trying to argue it isn’t.

Why don't you allow them to speak for themselves.

I remember when I first learned about the First Amendment.

You have no idea what the Satanic Temple stands for. This would be horrifying for a child.

You’re a simpleton, right? The Satanic Temple uses Satan as a symbol.

Why are you so afraid of an expression of a symbol? Or such a fan of the state choosing which symbols are represented and which are suppressed?

It’s okay to admit that your view of the First Amendment is Christian-forward. I’ll accept that from you as misguided as it is

 

[95Hawk]

Well that explains a lot. You WANT death and destruction. DefInitely a liberal

Yawn. The death and blooodshed due to religious ideologies and disagreement throughout history vs little ol’ my philosophy?

Child, please.

 

[HawkMachine]

Dems on Satanic holiday celebrations: We love the Constitution!!!!!!

Dems on guns: We hate the Constitution!!!!!!!!!!

Never change Dems, never change.

 

[JimStarr777]

Yawn. The death and blooodshed due to religious ideologies and disagreement throughout history vs little ol’ my philosophy?

Child, please.

So you don’t want death and bloodshed?

 

[Bonerfarts]

GOP on Satanic holiday celebrations: We hate the Constitution!!!!!!

GOP on guns: We love the Constitution!!!!!!!!!!

Never change GOP, never change.

FIFY

 

[soonerinlOUisiana]

LOL of course you're dismissive of the coercion. Because you're a hypocrite. You know damn well The Lord's Prayer has not one god damn thing to do with player safety.

I know no such thing. I’m sorry that you are so damaged that you find such a beautiful part of western culture to be so vile. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers.

 

[JWolf74]

I always know when I've made good points on this board. The personal attacks and meth jokes are all the responses I get. Makes my day.

Most of us thinking individuals find your fear of the underground fairy in preference to the sky fairy adorable. It doesn't mean you get to restrict free speech.

 

[JWolf74]

Bwahahahaha. Look up the actual definition of Satan. Its very definition is the personification of evil. Weird you’re actually trying to argue it isn’t.

Hint-Satan isn't real.

 

[jamesvanderwulf]

Another year goes by and my goat leggings still remain in the closet...

 

[JimStarr777]

Hint-Satan isn't real.

Then why are they worshipping it?

 

[fivecardstud14]

Then why are they worshipping it?

 

[Rifler]

Then why are they worshipping it?

Same reason people worship a non-existent god...

 

[JimStarr777]

Same reason people worship a non-existent god...

But that means THEY believe it exists, right? So THEY want to worship evil. Not sure why you’re struggling understanding this…

 

[Bonerfarts]

But that means THEY believe it exists, right? So THEY want to worship evil. Not sure why you’re struggling understanding this…

"I" believe that JimStarr777 is evil. I've reported him to the proper admins and you should expect his posting history to be taken down. We don't want his type of evil where children can see it.

 

[JimStarr777]

"I" believe that JimStarr777 is evil. I've reported him to the proper admins and you should expect his posting history to be taken down. We don't want his type of evil where children can see it.

I love how none of you can actually hold a decent argument. lol right to the weak insults. Sad…

 

[Rifler]

But that means THEY believe it exists, right? So THEY want to worship evil.

Not necessarily,.. I know a lot of christians who worship a god that they don't believe exists,.. For many it's little more than a habit, and a way of being part of something,.. I suspect there are also satanists who don't believe, and don't worship evil, but simply play the game to be a part of something and perhaps get a rise out of others...

 

[abby97]

The problem with this satanic display, is that it was set-up purely for shock value and to put a stick in the eye of Christians during the Christmas holiday season. If the display was set-up at any other time of the year (with the possible exception of Easter) the attention this would attract would be minimal and that is why the display was put up at Christmas time. This is why this isn't a legitimate religious display.

 

[JimStarr777]

Not necessarily,.. I know a lot of christians who worship a god that they don't believe exists,.. For many it's little more than a habit, and a way of being part of something,.. I suspect there are also satanists who don't believe, and don't worship evil, but simply play the game to be a part of something and perhaps get a rise out of others...

If they don’t believe it exists, they don’t really “worship” it though. They’re just going through the motions, typically for their spouse or children.

And if it’s done purely to get a rise out of others who hold something dear, I would probably consider that somewhat evil.

 

[Jerome Silberman]

The number of adults here that believe in the existence of angels is surprising.

 

[Bonerfarts]

If they don’t believe it exists, they don’t really “worship” it though. They’re just going through the motions, typically for their spouse or children.

And if it’s done purely to get a rise out of others who hold something dear, I would probably consider that somewhat evil.

Who decides if someone one actually worships or if they are going through the motions? Who gets to decide their intentions?

 

[fredjr82]

"After careful consideration of administrative rule and DAS policy, I determined the totality of the event request to include elements that are harmful to minors and therefore denied the request," Adam Steen, the director of the Iowa DAS, said in a statement to the Register.

It is poor journalism to not ask the obvious follow up question here: What, specifically, in the program was deemed "harmful to minors."

Pisses me off that reporters let public officials off the hook by just transcribing their non-answer answers.

I would have asked about the Catholic Priests who F'd little boys and then just got moved to another parish? Were they also harmful to minors?

 

[fredjr82]

They have Satan in their name. Do you know what Satan represents? Of course you do. Some day you will learn what supporting Satan has gained for you. It isn't good.

Are you better them because you hunt and fish for God? Do you truly believe that? You have smoked meth previously. Just because you are OK with it because you asked for forgiveness, some of us still think you're kind of scumbag for even taking a one hit. Maybe lay down your rocks in your glass house.