Satisfied with Wieskamp now?
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At times Joe W has disappeared, but he was there for 40 minutes tonight. He carried us for the first game this year. If he can ca give us 17 and 8 the rest of the way I like our chances.
No. Not satisfied with Weiskamp this year at all.
But the good news is he has plenty of games against an extremely tough stretch to prove he’s a solid no.2.
He did play good tonight though.
But the good news is he has plenty of games against an extremely tough stretch to prove he’s a solid no.2.
He did play good tonight though.
Not really, this is one game out of 20 games and it took him this long to show he can dominate at will if he would just play with more fire and energy. The last heat check he did and got knock down, he reverted back to expecting a call from a ref. I want him to stop that, I want him get up fast, shake it off, and go fast at defense. That's the moxy I want to see from him after every play, then I think he will a first round NBA talent.
Remember that play where the rutgers player tackled him? Had him in a bear hug and no call? That has been happening every game
The replay showed both were hugging each other; I though Weezy actually initiated the fall while hugging Rutgers player to fall on top of him. That's why the refs had a no call after viewing it several minutes. Weezy is good and skilled but he cannot expect refs to give him all the calls, just play with energy and effort, he will make millions.
Wieskamp needs more touches when he’s hot. I’m not sure he touched the ball more than three or four times in the first five minutes of the second half, despite being our best player by far in the first half (yes some of this is defensive adjustment). I’m glad he started hunting his shot more tonight though - a couple of times against really good defense by Harper and he knocked em down anyways. Never stop shooting Joe!
Because a guy on offense is going to try and hug the guy guarding him. Go watch again....the guy from rutgers has him in a bear hug. He has his arms trapped completely and Joe is simply grabbing on to gain leverage.
Joe should have more touches in general. He needs to show more of the attitude like he did last night. Outside of Garza one on one in the post, he's the guy should be the next most prominent part of the offense.
Wheezy is the girl with a the curl. When he is good, he is very very good. Weezy’s problem is that he all too often goes AWOL. Big time players have bad games but they don’t disappear. He has lots of problems when he goes afainst someone who is physical.
My opinion is he is a player with a lot of upside. He is no where near “going pro”....unless it is Europe.
My opinion is he is a player with a lot of upside. He is no where near “going pro”....unless it is Europe.
He is always quiet even when he scores in bunches. At the end of some games he has more than 15 points and you just don't remember him scoring that much. Some of those games he is awol he is instead getting lots of rebounds or he is doing other things that don't show up on the stat sheet. It's interesting that when garza isn't playing well Joe tends to take over.. when Luka starts to dominate inside Joe disappears. Luka takes a lot of attention from the other team....but also our own.
Joe feeds off the fans. The crowd was really into it last night. The excitement was palpable.
I was stunned last night when Weiskamp got to 21 and they said that was a season high. Couldn't believe it. Joe is capable of going off for 40 on any given night IMO, but he doesn't hunt shots like that, partially because of who he is, and of course because the offense runs thru Garza. Joe is an outstanding College Basketball player, you put him on MANY other P5 teams in the country and he's their best player, IMO. We're fortunate to have him.
Thought it rather sad last night in the postgame interview, that Joe felt the need to mention that he thought Iowa fans had lost respect for the team and himself (paraphrasing) lately. These kids put their heart and soul and a tremendous amount of time into being Iowa basketball players. None of them come here to fail or disappoint.
Players cannot control unreal expectations placed upon them by fans, media and coaches.
I thought this year’s team was a 5-8 loss bunch..if they play hard the rest of the way, they can accomplish this.
Iowa fans forgot to remember that Illinois, tOSU, Rutgers, Michigan St, Michigan and Wisconsin were all LOADED with talent at least the equal of Iowa’s this year. The conference is really loaded this year. Iowa is capable of a solid NCAA run...if they qualify for the Tourney.
I get it, but there is one sure way to silence the critics: Get back on the winning track.
This kind of sums up his weakest area, mental toughness.
I really liked Leistikow’s article telling it like it is with Joe & not being mentally tough enough. I forgot how poorly he played to end last year. I also didn’t realize this was his first 20 point game of the year??
I also cringed reading his quote about getting fouled all of the game. No need to mention that in the press for multiple reasons. Just learn from it & toughen up. Now you know how the game will be played & called. Learn from it. Don’t complain about it.
And yet here you are complaining. Weird thing to do while telling a kid in his 20s not to complain.
Fans are certainly culpable in setting unrealistic expectations, but it was the players who talked of a national championship first. Bohannon said after the UNC game that Iowa was going to be ranked number one in a couple of weeks (presumably after they beat Gonzaga). How are fans not supposed to buy into that?
By being smart and realistic.
Do you really think Iowa's talent is superior to that of the rest of the conference? I never bought it. Iowa has one exceptional talent but he is beaten down at this point of the season. Illinois, Wisconsin and tOSU were all atleast equal to Iowa if not better. As I have said many times, to me Iowa was a 5-8 loss team this year...but I think the Iowa strength is out of conference where teams have "short" preps for them...Iowa has a lot of weapons to prepare for but inn a conference setting where everyone knows everyone so well, there is a way o beat Iowa.....and its been "discovered"....Questionable health concerns of a few starters (JBo, CJ) dont bode well, though.
People complaining that he doesn't do enough...give me a break...maybe your expectations need to be checked...
- He is our 2nd leading scorer at 15.2/game (only 4 games all year in single digits - which we have won all 4 of those games). This while on a team that goes 9-11 deep & playing along side possibly/probably the NPOY who leads the country in scoring.
- He is second on the team in rebounding
- 1st in steals
- Shoots 47% from 3 (only behind CJF on the team)
- He is our 2nd leading scorer at 15.2/game (only 4 games all year in single digits - which we have won all 4 of those games). This while on a team that goes 9-11 deep & playing along side possibly/probably the NPOY who leads the country in scoring.
- He is second on the team in rebounding
- 1st in steals
- Shoots 47% from 3 (only behind CJF on the team)
Do I think that Iowa has superior talent to the rest of conference now? No. Did I think Iowa had superior talent to the rest of the conference when they shot a more athletic and 16th ranked North Carolina team out of the gym at the beginning of the season and were ranked third in the national polls? Yes. And it didn’t take me being dumb or unrealistic to come to that conclusion either.
Evidently we can’t all have the foresight you do to know how things would turn during conference play
Its not his first 20 point game of the year. I believe his third. Its the first time he surpassed 20 points this season. As others mentioned, Joe doesn't hunt shots and the offense runs through the post. In many games early on Luka was manhandling teams and the ball rarely came back out once he had it. Now teams are being more effective in doubling and making it more difficult for him to set up initially on the block so Joe needs to take a more active role, as he has the last couple of games.
You suffer a common “Iowa fan” malady...you want to quickly dismiss the talent of Iowa opponent’s. There are 6-7 conference teams that are every bit as talented, if not more so, than Iowa this year....add in the fact that no one enjoys are real home court advantage, and the talent level becomes more equal.
Hell, I am almost 72 years old..I have been where many of you are...I have seen a lot of Iowa basketball...that is why I feel the way I feel. No one wants Iowa to win games more than I, however I am smart enough to see that when Iowa falls short, more oft than not, it was not because of the referees or the coaching...sometimes shit just happens.
I appreciate your perspective and realize that the talent within the conference is likely closer than many of us want to realize. With what Iowa had returning, as well as the hype generated by Iowa’s own players and the media, a lot of the expectations were not dumb or unreasonable however. My preseason projection was a 2-3 seed in the tournament, along with whatever that would entail in non-con and Big Ten play. Iowa appears to be positioned to still achieve my projection, but that doesn’t make losing 4 out of 5 in conference play and a current 5th place position in conference any easier to stomach, especially as we approach the most difficult part of our schedule
Joe is anything but an on-the-court whiner. Watch the games and you can see who are the whiners. If he complains once or twice a year about getting mugged, maybe he is right? IMHO, he deserves to be heard.
Exactly. He is a tough, hard-nosed player who focuses on the game. You said
"I also cringed reading his quote about getting fouled all of the game. No need to mention that in the press for multiple reasons. Just learn from it & toughen up. "
I was referring to that and that he rarely (once in 3 years?) says anything about reffing.
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Uh no. You need some glasses. The mofo from rutgers freaking was bear hugging JW and then took him down. I was like wtf
Exactly. He shouldn’t be saying stuff in the press about the officiating. Just like I said.
They were ranked #3 or so preseason, ummm, that's high and says you're supposed to be good with what you have returning. That's how it works.
You believe all, that stuff? There was not much talk about UMich...Did they believe they were to ba any good then?
No, I usually believe the Teams ranked preseason from 70-100 will play in the National Title game.
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