Scheme or Personnel

[Oldgold51]

3 times in a row, in BIG games, the Michigan State title game, last year’s Penn State game and last night’s game, the Iowa Defense has allowed the opposing team to methodically drive the ball the length of the field very late in the game to win.

In each instance, someone needed to make a play. No one did - not even close.

Is this ‘primarily’ a scheme problem, “bend don’t break” not working against late in the game “do or die” drives or is it personnel?

Damn frustrating to watch!

 

[HawkSTL]

It’s very hard to consistently stop good teams when they get 4 downs to get 10 yards every time. Even harder when it’s the end of the 4th and it’s not a pure 2 minute drill. Our offense has two chances to make that a 2 possession game and stalled both times. Need to help the d there.

 

[cecilB]

It’s very hard to consistently stop good teams when they get 4 downs to get 10 yards every time. Even harder when it’s the end of the 4th and it’s not a pure 2 minute drill. Our offense has two chances to make that a 2 possession game and stalled both times. Need to help the d there.

Yep, after Wisky got 2 1st downs, it was 4 down category

 

[cfhawk22]

We needed to blitz and play man to man on the last drive. Make that quarterback beat us throwing over the top instead of underneath. Especially with a blitz in his face. We had no pressure on him and the underneath throws were not difficult.

 

[hawkguy77]

The Hawkeyes once again made an average plus QB look like a Heisman contender on that drive. As soon as the drive began I had visions of the MSU and PSU endings.

 

[StopIt]

3 times in a row, in BIG games, the Michigan State title game, last year’s Penn State game and last night’s game, the Iowa Defense has allowed the opposing team to methodically drive the ball the length of the field very late in the game to win.

In each instance, someone needed to make a play. No one did - not even close.

Is this ‘primarily’ a scheme problem, “bend don’t break” not working against late in the game “do or die” drives or is it personnel?

Damn frustrating to watch!

S-T-A-F-F!!!!

 

[EpenesaEpenesa]

We needed to blitz and play man to man on the last drive. Make that quarterback beat us throwing over the top instead of underneath. Especially with a blitz in his face. We had no pressure on him and the underneath throws were not difficult.

Can’t believe they didn’t bring any pressure

 

[kcgolfer]

I have been saying for several years that Iowa does not have difference makers on either side of the ball. We have decent players but no game changers.

 

[Burbank84]

I have been saying for several years that Iowa does not have difference makers on either side of the ball. We have decent players but no game changers.

Iowa best playmaker on defense is Epenesa, but amazingly he doesn't start.

 

[Harbinger273]

Lack of playmakers and lack of playcallers. Shows up in these Wisconsin games. We've won other big ones, but it's obvious Wisconsin is built solely to beat us. It's there main focus and obsession. Showed up against MSU in the btcg and they are built like us. Iowa is clearly not the best at their own style of play. What is this teams identity?

 

[Hawkfan5220]

I have been saying for several years that Iowa does not have difference makers on either side of the ball. We have decent players but no game changers.

You mean like Josh Jackson, Adrian Clayborn, etc..

 

[chuck285]

3 times in a row, in BIG games, the Michigan State title game, last year’s Penn State game and last night’s game, the Iowa Defense has allowed the opposing team to methodically drive the ball the length of the field very late in the game to win.

In each instance, someone needed to make a play. No one did - not even close.

Is this ‘primarily’ a scheme problem, “bend don’t break” not working against late in the game “do or die” drives or is it personnel?

Damn frustrating to watch!

Did we ever bliz and if so when? Didn't seem we pressured the QB in the 4th quarter.

 

[hawkandroll]

Mildly depressing

 

[Kinnick.At.Night]

Iowa best playmaker on defense is Epenesa, but amazingly he doesn't start.

Have you seen how much rotating the D-line does? Who starts the game doesn't mean very much.

 

[H4wkfan4life]

Did we ever bliz and if so when? Didn't seem we pressured the QB in the 4th quarter.

anyone on here that wants to question parker needs to get laughed off here

we should be damn thankful for the parkers. I love how people want to whine about everything after a loss. D is NOT the reason we don't achieve greatness!

 

[GetOnTheLine]

Our offense has two chances to make that a 2 possession game and stalled both times. Need to help the d there.

You hit this nail on the head. In response to OPs question, it is an offensive problem. Not defense. Our offense puts our D in the position to lose at the end.

 

[WEH8ST8HAWK]

anyone on here that wants to question parker needs to get laughed off here

we should be damn thankful for the parkers. I love how people want to whine about everything after a loss. D is NOT the reason we don't achieve greatness!

The elite coordinators don't chase wide receivers with 240 pound linebackers, ever.They also don't play standard 4-3 99.9% of the time. I'll hang up and listen.

 

[Kinnick.At.Night]

The elite coordinators don't chase wide receivers with 240 pound linebackers, ever.They also don't play standard 4-3 99.9% of the time. I'll hang up and listen.

Was Norm Parker an elite coordinator?

 

[blhawk]

Have you seen how much rotating the D-line does? Who starts the game doesn't mean very much.

AJ had six snaps in first half vs ISU. That matters. Nice to hear Gus openly question how he isn't starting. We'll probably only get 1 year of AJ as a starter and we wonder why top recruits won't come here?! Well I don't...

 

[kcgolfer]

You mean like Josh Jackson, Adrian Clayborn, etc..

Did you see any of those guys making a play with the game on the line against Wisconsin on Saturday???? Good grief.

 

[Crazy Hawk]

AJ is going to be the best DE to play at Iowa by the time he is done imo. He is a difference maker now. Thinking back to Saturday I only remember one snap where AJ widened and made the OT play in space. Heck, I only remember one snap where any DE did. I’m sure they did more but it was not enough imo. It was almost as if they were too worried about protecting the LBers instead of letting the DL play to their strengths.

To answer the OP. This teams problem is scheme.

 

[DewHawk]

IMO it is scheme. You cannot allow a college QB (today - 95% of D1 QBs are accurate without disruption) to more or less be in his comfort zone. If you do not disrupt the QB and force him out of his comfort zone/tempo bad things will happen. Thus late game drive losses on pretty much an annual basis. Ferentz/Parker will never figure it out and it does not matter how many times they fail. No guts no glory!

 

[mlee3553]

AJ is going to be the best DE to play at Iowa by the time he is done imo. He is a difference maker now. Thinking back to Saturday I only remember one snap where AJ widened and made the OT play in space. Heck, I only remember one snap where any DE did. I’m sure they did more but it was not enough imo. It was almost as if they were too worried about protecting the LBers instead of letting the DL play to their strengths.

To answer the OP. This teams problem is scheme.

It was pretty obvious that they weren't going to let Taylor beat them. They played to contain him(within reason because your never going to completely shut him down running behind that line) and take your chances on Hornibrook not being able to beat you. Gotta give him credit he did everything he need to to win. Take away the the SP flubs and I'm willing to bet Iowa wins. Playing a team as good as them you have to play clean. It's easy to sit back and second guess calls and plays when the outcome isn't what we wanted. I saw nothing wrong with schemes on either side. That being said I would have like to see a bit of pressure on the goahead drive but if you miss they score easy. If Iowa would have executed they would have won that football game.

 

[myteamcanbeatupyourteam]

3 times in a row, in BIG games, the Michigan State title game, last year’s Penn State game and last night’s game, the Iowa Defense has allowed the opposing team to methodically drive the ball the length of the field very late in the game to win.

In each instance, someone needed to make a play. No one did - not even close.

Is this ‘primarily’ a scheme problem, “bend don’t break” not working against late in the game “do or die” drives or is it personnel?

Damn frustrating to watch!

If you think the game was lost on that drive, you were not paying attention.

 

[myteamcanbeatupyourteam]

The elite coordinators don't chase wide receivers with 240 pound linebackers, ever.They also don't play standard 4-3 99.9% of the time. I'll hang up and listen.

**NEWSFLASH**

Happens all the time. Happens is the NFL too.

 

[Hawkfan5220]

Did you see any of those guys making a play with the game on the line against Wisconsin on Saturday???? Good grief.

Hey genius, notice he said "for several years", implying Iowa never gets game changers. That's what I'm pointing out.

 

[anon_gjzkhykcp9iuj]

Have you seen how much rotating the D-line does? Who starts the game doesn't mean very much.

It does when Epenesa only plays 1/4 of the snaps and Hesse gets beat or is out of position numerous times.

 

[Crazy Hawk]

It was pretty obvious that they weren't going to let Taylor beat them. They played to contain him(within reason because your never going to completely shut him down running behind that line) and take your chances on Hornibrook not being able to beat you. Gotta give him credit he did everything he need to to win. Take away the the SP flubs and I'm willing to bet Iowa wins. Playing a team as good as them you have to play clean. It's easy to sit back and second guess calls and plays when the outcome isn't what we wanted. I saw nothing wrong with schemes on either side. That being said I would have like to see a bit of pressure on the goahead drive but if you miss they score easy. If Iowa would have executed they would have won that football game.

I get that and totally understand that angle. However, you have to play your strengths as well. I am still shocked Iowa's DL did not make any of the Wisconsin tackles play in space with the speed/athletic ability Iowa's DE's have.

By no means do I think Iowa's defense is to blame for this loss. They are not. That reward goes to the other two phases of the game.

 

[scotthawk1964]

You mean like Josh Jackson, Adrian Clayborn, etc..

And the Outlaw.

 

[Rustys Dad]

Can’t believe they didn’t bring any pressure

Yep ... We kept saying that all night long.

 

[sober_teacher]

I get that and totally understand that angle. However, you have to play your strengths as well. I am still shocked Iowa's DL did not make any of the Wisconsin tackles play in space with the speed/athletic ability Iowa's DE's have.

By no means do I think Iowa's defense is to blame for this loss. They are not. That reward goes to the other two phases of the game.

It doesn’t seem like we’re giving Wisconsin’s line much credit . I fully expect all 5 of them to be drafted fairly high, I think I’ve heard 3 could be first rounders.

This is fairly simple to me. We lost because we made critical mistakes and Wisconsin did not. Between two fairly even teams, that’s the difference.