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Where did you see that Iowa is a front runner? Iowa hasn't even offered that I know of.
Yeah, we need an OT. Might depend on how things look with Farniok. Iowa might be willing to take 2 OTs, too.
You going to compare these 2's recruitment?
I get your point but these aren't even close
In what way?
They are almost exactly the same.
Both longtime commitments to other schools? Check.
Both on Iowa's radar for months before an offer was made? Check.
Both have a direct connection to the school (Beyer by proximity, Foster as a legacy)? Check.
Both at positions where Iowa has done an exceptional job of evaluating talent and projecting success during the KF era (and really, years before that)? Check.
Both offered by Big Ten rivals before Iowa decides to take a hard, 2nd look? Check.
Both at positions of need (assuming Fant bails)? Check.
I don't see a single area where there's a difference, actually.
First and foremost foster was committed to Minnesota. Beyer to NDSU.
Offer list
Iowa still hasn't offered Foster
Minnesota and NDSU are actually pretty similar programs right now. I would probably call NDSU the better offer at this point.
And what the hell does offer list have to do with anything? Are you implying that the Iowa coaching staff looks at other offers before deciding whether to pursue a prospect? If not, your point is essentially meaningless.
And obviously Iowa hasn't offered Foster. Yet. Just like they hadn't Beyer, until about 5 days ago. You realize there's over 2 months until signing day, right?
You're really reaching here.
If they could get two of Foster, Farniok, and Jackson that would be ideal. You would have to think they have a good chance of getting Foster if they offer. He is a legacy and was interested in Iowa before Minnesota but they didn't offer. I think there is a good chance to get Jackson because of his friendship with Lattimore and Golston.
It just seems like Farniok is Nebraska's to lose.
It just seems like Farniok is Nebraska's to lose.
You lost me with the bolded part. There's no world where an FCS offer is better than a P5 offer. He'll have better facilities, better resources, probably a better education (assuming he takes full advantage of this), a better location (in this case), better competition in practice and on game days, and better exposure.
Competitively, the difference between NDSU and Minnesota is not far off right now, you are correct there. But when you think about all the other things involved in a college football scholarship, you can't say NDSU is better.
Beyer could have taken Fant's position.
Try and keep up.
I hope you're right about Jackson ... however, with that said, unless Iowa loses a 4th year SR from the OL, my guess is that the coaches are intending on only taking 1 more O-lineman in the class. It still seems like they're targeting corners too.
This is an instance where I suspect that where there's smoke there's fire ... my guess is that the Hawks and Foster are kindling something there. It's also likely a reflection that the coaches likely now know that they're going to miss on Farniok ... and they likely still don't know what way Jackson is going to lean.
Lastly, I think that the coaches opted for Beyer simply because they didn't want to miss out on him. Also, the coaches might be anticipating possible decommits ... so Beyer helps provide a little bit of a buffer there.
LOL, the education is the same at both. Chance to go the NFL, the same at both. Minnesota is notorious for having some terrible facilities, so not dramatically better. Weather sucks both places.
What you get at Minnesota is getting your teeth knocked out by Michigan, Ohio State, and Iowa every weekend. At NDSU, you actually get to compete for championships.
We're not talking about a blueblood football factory here, it's freaking Minnesota. Pretty sure NDSU kicked their asses the last time they played, as well.
Fant is taking official visits so I would consider his commitment pretty soft. If he decides to go elsewhere that opens up another slot. Beyer has to be considered backup for Fant. One slot has been reserved for Farniok, the other could go to Foster if Fant goes elsewhere.
You guys really need to keep up. It is all numbers game.
You guys really need to keep up. It is all numbers game.
Difference is Reese was making regular contact with Beyer. Don't think any Iowa coach ahs been in contact with Foster.
Iowa gets commitments at the end of every recruiting cycle from kids that we've basically never talked to or haven't for months prior.
US News college rankings - Minnesota #69, NDSU #185. Certainly a difference there, though NDSU appears respectable. I do know that NDSU has a very good flight and aviation program, one of the top 2 or 3 in the country. But I'm sure Minnesota has quite a few top programs in various areas. I'm choosing not to dig too deeply.
NFL - While I'll grant there aren't significant differences in current NFL players (Minnesota 8 to NDSU 6), the Gophers do have more current players on rosters. To any rational mind, playing in the B1G is going to get you an advantage.
Facilities - I don't know much about either teams' practice facilities. Maybe NDSU has the best in the FCS?? If they do, I'd be willing to concede, for argument, that they are equal to Minnesota. Even with that (which may not actually be true), I can say for sure that TCF Bank Stadium is pretty nice, and certainly better than the Fargodome (19,000 capacity).
Location - I wasn't talking about weather when I mentioned location above. I was comparing Minneapolis to Fargo. I don't think many folks would say Fargo is a better city than Minneapolis, as the populations of each city can confirm.
Opponents - When you say Minnesota gets their teeth knocked out every weekend, are you referring to 2015 when they got "blown out" 29-26 against Michigan, 28-14 against OSU, and 40-35 against Iowa? Maybe you mean 2014 when they beat Michigan and Iowa by a combined 81-28 and had OSU on the ropes before losing 31-24? I'll grant that Minnesota is not likely to beat OSU any given year, but that's true for the whole conference.
Can you show me a NDSU player that was offered scholarships by both teams? With 2 minutes time, I was able to find 3 players in Minnesota's current 2016 class that also claim NDSU offers. I'm guessing there are more that have them, but who didn't report NDSU as a school in which they were interested.
This will likely be my last attempt to try to have a rational conversation. I can see from your post history that you aren't interested in talking to people, just spouting angry posts and trying to get people riled up. Actually try to read what I wrote above and you can see that there are plenty of reasons to hold Minnesota in higher regard than NDSU as schools and football programs. Minnesota has had bad years recently, but that doesn't mean they are a worse choice than NDSU for a young man with offers to both schools.
Da Coach back with another new handle. Speaking of dumbasses.
I think that there's some truth to this. I think you would rather swing and miss with a guy like Beyer then risk him going to Nebraska and be a home run for Nebraska. Not that I believe that Beyer will be a swing and a miss, because everything I have heard about the kid has been great, but there are no guarantees.
If a program like Nebraska sees enough to offer, then I would have to believe that there's something there with Beyer. I'm glad Iowa snatched him up.
Does the name Ryan Ward seem like a likely case? A former 4 star recruit who has not played much or made much impact on the depth chart.
Iowa has passed on Foster several times. Why all of a sudden do we want him now? He chose Minnesota because he didn't have an Iowa offer.
That's what I was thinking. I'm wondering why there would be new interest.
Most fans find it difficult to understand that the coaching staff evaluates a prospect independent of commercial rating services.
It is possible that they had previously told Foster to remain patient until they could re-evaluate tape after his senior season but Foster was unwilling to wait....so there may be some interest.
Anyone watch tape to maybe find a reason we haven't offered? I know you can't teach 6'8 285 but maybe his style just doesn't fit? Just because he's 4 star, doesn't mean he'll be all world everywhere.
Personally, really hoping for Farniok as his tape and demeanor are impressive...
Personally, really hoping for Farniok as his tape and demeanor are impressive...
I don't know about Ward. His brother plays a lot ... and he's at least gotten some reps through the years. I was thinking of either Ward or Keppy ... neither seem to have significantly pushed for anything close to a starting spot.
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