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The worsening of tidal flooding in American coastal communities is largely a consequence of greenhouse gases from human activity, and the problem will grow far worse in coming decades, scientists reported Monday.

Those emissions, primarily from the burning of fossil fuels, are causing the ocean to rise at the fastest rate since at least the founding of ancient Rome, the scientists said. They added that in the absence of human emissions, the ocean surface would be rising less rapidly and might even be falling.

The increasingly routine tidal flooding is making life miserable in places like Miami Beach; Charleston, S.C.; and Norfolk, Va., even on sunny days.


Though these types of floods often produce only a foot or two of standing saltwater, they are straining life in many towns by killing lawns and trees, blocking neighborhood streets and clogging storm drains, polluting supplies of freshwater and sometimes stranding entire island communities for hours by overtopping the roads that tie them to the mainland.

Such events are just an early harbinger of the coming damage, the new research suggests.

“I think we need a new way to think about most coastal flooding,” said Benjamin H. Strauss, the primary author of one of two related studies released on Monday. “It’s not the tide. It’s not the wind. It’s us. That’s true for most of the coastal floods we now experience.”

In the second study, scientists reconstructed the level of the sea over time and confirmed that it is most likely rising faster than at any point in 28 centuries, with the rate of increase growing sharply over the past century — largely, they found, because of the warming that scientists have said is almost certainly caused by human emissions.

They also confirmed previous forecasts that if emissions were to continue at a high rate over the next few decades, the ocean could rise as much as three or four feet by 2100.

Experts say the situation would then grow far worse in the 22nd century and beyond, likely requiring the abandonment of many coastal cities.

The findings are yet another indication that the stable climate in which human civilization has flourished for thousands of years, with a largely predictable ocean permitting the growth of great coastal cities, is coming to an end.

“I think we can definitely be confident that sea-level rise is going to continue to accelerate if there’s further warming, which inevitably there will be,” said Stefan Rahmstorf, a professor of ocean physics at the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research, in Germany, and co-author of one of the papers, published online Monday by an American journal, Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

In a report issued to accompany that scientific paper, a climate research and communications organization in Princeton, N.J., Climate Central, used the new findings to calculate that roughly three-quarters of the tidal flood days now occurring in towns along the East Coast would not be happening in the absence of the rise in the sea level caused by human emissions.

The lead author of that report, Dr. Strauss, said the same was likely true on a global scale, in any coastal community that has had an increase of saltwater flooding in recent decades.

The rise in the sea level contributes only in a limited degree to the huge, disastrous storm surges accompanying hurricanes like Katrina and Sandy. Proportionally, it has a bigger effect on the nuisance floods that can accompany what are known as king tides.

The change in frequency of those tides is striking. For instance, in the decade from 1955 to 1964 at Annapolis, Md., an instrument called a tide gauge measured 32 days of flooding; in the decade from 2005 to 2014, that jumped to 394 days.

Flood days in Charleston jumped from 34 in the earlier decade to 219 in the more recent, and in Key West, Fla., the figure jumped from no flood days in the earlier decade to 32 in the more recent.

The new research was led by Robert E. Kopp, an earth scientist at Rutgers University who has won respect from his colleagues by bringing elaborate statistical techniques to bear on longstanding problems, like understanding the history of the global sea level.

Based on extensive geological evidence, scientists already knew that the sea level rose drastically at the end of the last ice age, by almost 400 feet, causing shorelines to retreat up to a hundred miles in places. They also knew that the sea level had basically stabilized, like the rest of the climate, over the past several thousand years, the period when human civilization arose.


But there were small variations of climate and sea level over that period, and the new paper is the most exhaustive attempt yet to clarify them.

The paper shows the ocean to be extremely sensitive to small fluctuations in the Earth’s temperature. The researchers found that when the average global temperature fell by a third of a degree Fahrenheit in the Middle Ages, for instance, the surface of the ocean dropped by about three inches in 400 years. When the climate warmed slightly, that trend reversed.

“Physics tells us that sea-level change and temperature change should go hand-in-hand,” Dr. Kopp said. “This new geological record confirms it.”

In the 19th century, as the Industrial Revolution took hold, the ocean began to rise briskly, climbing about eight inches since 1880. That sounds small, but it has caused extensive erosion worldwide, costing billions.

Due largely to human emissions, global temperatures have jumped about 1.8 degrees Fahrenheit since the 19th century. The sea is rising at what appears to be an accelerating pace, lately reaching a rate of about a foot per century.

One of the authors of the new paper, Dr. Rahmstorf, had previously published estimates suggesting the sea could rise as much as five or six feet by 2100. But with the improved calculations from the new paper, his latest upper estimate is three to four feet.

That means Dr. Rahmstorf’s forecast is now more consistent with calculations issued in 2013 by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, a United Nations body that periodically reviews and summarizes climate research. That body found that continued high emissions might produce a rise in the sea of 1.7 to 3.2 feet over the 21st century.

In an interview, Dr. Rahmstorf said the rise would eventually reach five feet and far more — the only question was how long it would take. Scientists say the recent climate agreement negotiated in Paris is not remotely ambitious enough to forestall a significant melting of Greenland and Antarctica, though if fully implemented, it may slow the pace somewhat.

“Ice simply melts faster when the temperatures get higher,” Dr. Rahmstorf said. “That’s just basic physics.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/23/science/sea-level-rise-global-warming-climate-change.html
 
Yawn... this thread again.

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So buy the next lot in from the current coastal property and in about 10,000 years I can cash in?


Let the rich beach front owners worry about it
 
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"Such events are just an early harbinger of the coming damage, the new research suggests."

Sounds like a prediction...
 
Plant lots of trees, problem solved. The earth is evolving to meet the needs of Humanity, it's a win in my book. More farmland, more water distribution, it's all good.
 
Wait, wasn't there an article last week about the oceans not rising as fast as they thought? Are these different "scientists?"

Judging by the lack of reading comprehension skills by the author of this post and those who have 'liked' it, I'll presume this requires some explanation on a 3rd grade level:

A) This study indicates sea levels are rising currently at a 12"/century rate, faster than any time in the past 2800 years.
B) A prior study implied sea levels were rising at a rate slower than what scientist had thought, based on land ice losses. Or, they had thought sea levels were rising 13 or 14" per century.

Thus, these posters apparently believe that because sea levels may NOT be rising at 13 or 14" per century (based on a different paper's results), that the 12" per century presently observed is no longer the fastest in 2800 years.

Is this REALLY too tough to understand?
 
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Judging by the lack of reading comprehension skills by the author of this post and those who have 'liked' it, I'll presume this requires some explanation on a 3rd grade level:

A) This study indicates sea levels are rising currently at a 12"/century rate, faster than any time in the past 2800 years.
B) A prior study implied sea levels were rising at a rate slower than what scientist had thought, based on land ice losses. Or, they had thought sea levels were rising 13 or 14" per century.

Thus, these posters apparently believe that because sea levels may NOT be rising at 13 or 14" per century (based on a different paper's results), that the 12" per century presently observed is no longer the fastest in 2800 years.

Is this REALLY too tough to understand?
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Judging by the lack of reading comprehension skills by the author of this post and those who have 'liked' it, I'll presume this requires some explanation on a 3rd grade level:

A) This study indicates sea levels are rising currently at a 12"/century rate, faster than any time in the past 2800 years.
B) A prior study implied sea levels were rising at a rate slower than what scientist had thought, based on land ice losses. Or, they had thought sea levels were rising 13 or 14" per century.

Thus, these posters apparently believe that because sea levels may NOT be rising at 13 or 14" per century (based on a different paper's results), that the 12" per century presently observed is no longer the fastest in 2800 years.

Is this REALLY too tough to understand?

It's really amazing how eager these idiotic denialists are to show off their willful stupidity on the issue. Sadly, the world and future generations will pay the price for their selfish ignorance.
 
It's really amazing how eager these idiotic denialists are to show off their willful stupidity on the issue. Sadly, the world and future generations will pay the price for their selfish ignorance.
Not gonna get into an argument about climate change, just curious what sacrifices you are making to combat the rising sea levels? What can we realistically do about it?
 
Judging by the lack of reading comprehension skills by the author of this post and those who have 'liked' it, I'll presume this requires some explanation on a 3rd grade level:

A) This study indicates sea levels are rising currently at a 12"/century rate, faster than any time in the past 2800 years.
B) A prior study implied sea levels were rising at a rate slower than what scientist had thought, based on land ice losses. Or, they had thought sea levels were rising 13 or 14" per century.

Thus, these posters apparently believe that because sea levels may NOT be rising at 13 or 14" per century (based on a different paper's results), that the 12" per century presently observed is no longer the fastest in 2800 years.

Is this REALLY too tough to understand?


Sooo...

The rate of sea level rising is slowing down, right?
 
It's really amazing how eager these idiotic denialists are to show off their willful stupidity on the issue. Sadly, the world and future generations will pay the price for their selfish ignorance.
Your right dude. Im gonna change my ways right now!!
 
The worsening of tidal flooding in American coastal communities is largely a consequence of greenhouse gases from human activity, and the problem will grow far worse in coming decades, scientists reported Monday.

Those emissions, primarily from the burning of fossil fuels, are causing the ocean to rise at the fastest rate since at least the founding of ancient Rome, the scientists said. They added that in the absence of human emissions, the ocean surface would be rising less rapidly and might even be falling.

The increasingly routine tidal flooding is making life miserable in places like Miami Beach; Charleston, S.C.; and Norfolk, Va., even on sunny days.


Though these types of floods often produce only a foot or two of standing saltwater, they are straining life in many towns by killing lawns and trees, blocking neighborhood streets and clogging storm drains, polluting supplies of freshwater and sometimes stranding entire island communities for hours by overtopping the roads that tie them to the mainland.

Such events are just an early harbinger of the coming damage, the new research suggests.

“I think we need a new way to think about most coastal flooding,” said Benjamin H. Strauss, the primary author of one of two related studies released on Monday. “It’s not the tide. It’s not the wind. It’s us. That’s true for most of the coastal floods we now experience.”

In the second study, scientists reconstructed the level of the sea over time and confirmed that it is most likely rising faster than at any point in 28 centuries, with the rate of increase growing sharply over the past century — largely, they found, because of the warming that scientists have said is almost certainly caused by human emissions.

They also confirmed previous forecasts that if emissions were to continue at a high rate over the next few decades, the ocean could rise as much as three or four feet by 2100.

Experts say the situation would then grow far worse in the 22nd century and beyond, likely requiring the abandonment of many coastal cities.

The findings are yet another indication that the stable climate in which human civilization has flourished for thousands of years, with a largely predictable ocean permitting the growth of great coastal cities, is coming to an end.

“I think we can definitely be confident that sea-level rise is going to continue to accelerate if there’s further warming, which inevitably there will be,” said Stefan Rahmstorf, a professor of ocean physics at the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research, in Germany, and co-author of one of the papers, published online Monday by an American journal, Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

In a report issued to accompany that scientific paper, a climate research and communications organization in Princeton, N.J., Climate Central, used the new findings to calculate that roughly three-quarters of the tidal flood days now occurring in towns along the East Coast would not be happening in the absence of the rise in the sea level caused by human emissions.

The lead author of that report, Dr. Strauss, said the same was likely true on a global scale, in any coastal community that has had an increase of saltwater flooding in recent decades.

The rise in the sea level contributes only in a limited degree to the huge, disastrous storm surges accompanying hurricanes like Katrina and Sandy. Proportionally, it has a bigger effect on the nuisance floods that can accompany what are known as king tides.

The change in frequency of those tides is striking. For instance, in the decade from 1955 to 1964 at Annapolis, Md., an instrument called a tide gauge measured 32 days of flooding; in the decade from 2005 to 2014, that jumped to 394 days.

Flood days in Charleston jumped from 34 in the earlier decade to 219 in the more recent, and in Key West, Fla., the figure jumped from no flood days in the earlier decade to 32 in the more recent.

The new research was led by Robert E. Kopp, an earth scientist at Rutgers University who has won respect from his colleagues by bringing elaborate statistical techniques to bear on longstanding problems, like understanding the history of the global sea level.

Based on extensive geological evidence, scientists already knew that the sea level rose drastically at the end of the last ice age, by almost 400 feet, causing shorelines to retreat up to a hundred miles in places. They also knew that the sea level had basically stabilized, like the rest of the climate, over the past several thousand years, the period when human civilization arose.


But there were small variations of climate and sea level over that period, and the new paper is the most exhaustive attempt yet to clarify them.

The paper shows the ocean to be extremely sensitive to small fluctuations in the Earth’s temperature. The researchers found that when the average global temperature fell by a third of a degree Fahrenheit in the Middle Ages, for instance, the surface of the ocean dropped by about three inches in 400 years. When the climate warmed slightly, that trend reversed.

“Physics tells us that sea-level change and temperature change should go hand-in-hand,” Dr. Kopp said. “This new geological record confirms it.”

In the 19th century, as the Industrial Revolution took hold, the ocean began to rise briskly, climbing about eight inches since 1880. That sounds small, but it has caused extensive erosion worldwide, costing billions.

Due largely to human emissions, global temperatures have jumped about 1.8 degrees Fahrenheit since the 19th century. The sea is rising at what appears to be an accelerating pace, lately reaching a rate of about a foot per century.

One of the authors of the new paper, Dr. Rahmstorf, had previously published estimates suggesting the sea could rise as much as five or six feet by 2100. But with the improved calculations from the new paper, his latest upper estimate is three to four feet.

That means Dr. Rahmstorf’s forecast is now more consistent with calculations issued in 2013 by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, a United Nations body that periodically reviews and summarizes climate research. That body found that continued high emissions might produce a rise in the sea of 1.7 to 3.2 feet over the 21st century.

In an interview, Dr. Rahmstorf said the rise would eventually reach five feet and far more — the only question was how long it would take. Scientists say the recent climate agreement negotiated in Paris is not remotely ambitious enough to forestall a significant melting of Greenland and Antarctica, though if fully implemented, it may slow the pace somewhat.

“Ice simply melts faster when the temperatures get higher,” Dr. Rahmstorf said. “That’s just basic physics.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/23/science/sea-level-rise-global-warming-climate-change.html


Notice how you do not propose a solution that works\ 100%. So you just wasted everyones time.
 
It's really amazing how eager these idiotic denialists are to show off their willful stupidity on the issue. Sadly, the world and future generations will pay the price for their selfish ignorance.
Just like how you ignoring what the Government you love is doing across the world?

Keep playing the party line buddy.
 
Judging by the lack of reading comprehension skills by the author of this post and those who have 'liked' it, I'll presume this requires some explanation on a 3rd grade level:

A) This study indicates sea levels are rising currently at a 12"/century rate, faster than any time in the past 2800 years.
B) A prior study implied sea levels were rising at a rate slower than what scientist had thought, based on land ice losses. Or, they had thought sea levels were rising 13 or 14" per century.

Thus, these posters apparently believe that because sea levels may NOT be rising at 13 or 14" per century (based on a different paper's results), that the 12" per century presently observed is no longer the fastest in 2800 years.

Is this REALLY too tough to understand?

What exactly happened so that the city off the Egyptian coast that fell below sea level. That seems to have been a pretty significant rise.

How much did humans contribute to that sea rise at that time? how many fossil fuels were burned back then?

And can we blame white people some how?
 
I don't care. I will bet money in two decades the rise will be unnoticeable.

Jesus, shouldn't we all be dead by now anyway? Al Gore and many others have drawn the liberal line in the sand about the enivironmental boogie man so many times I say b.s.
 
More scientific ignorance on display, yet again.

you are the one making the claim. where is your evidence?

and please enlighten me how they measured to the inch anything prior to 900 BC on a planet that has tectonic plates and is constantly shifting up and down, depending on continent. this now has me quite curious.
 
What exactly happened so that the city off the Egyptian coast that fell below sea level. That seems to have been a pretty significant rise.

How much did humans contribute to that sea rise at that time? how many fossil fuels were burned back then?

And can we blame white people some how?

The Nile in the Cairo delta was a lush, vast, green wetland.

That was until the aliens used all of their carbon belching, industrialized machinery to build the ancient pyramids.
 
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you are the one making the claim. where is your evidence?

and please enlighten me how they measured to the inch anything prior to 900 BC on a planet that has tectonic plates and is constantly shifting up and down, depending on continent. this now has me quite curious.

You could start by actually reading a scientific paper. Google is a fantastic resource to find some, including the one referenced by the OP.

You could also recognize that 'tectonic plates' don't actually move a whole lot in 3000 years, particularly relative to sea levels, and when they do move, they don't ALL move 'up' or 'down'.
 
You could start by actually reading a scientific paper. Google is a fantastic resource to find some, including the one referenced by the OP.

You could also recognize that 'tectonic plates' don't actually move a whole lot in 3000 years, particularly relative to sea levels, and when they do move, they don't ALL move 'up' or 'down'.

OK, so no evidence to back up your claims, you want us to trust you on faith?

hmm.. how about another question, are there any possible unforeseen positive effects of global climate change? do scientists ever consider these?
 
OK, so no evidence to back up your claims, you want us to trust you on faith?

hmm.. how about another question, are there any possible unforeseen positive effects of global climate change? do scientists ever consider these?

Oh, no.... everything is bad in a warming world. Don't start any heresy, now.....
 
You could start by actually reading a scientific paper. Google is a fantastic resource to find some, including the one referenced by the OP.

You could also recognize that 'tectonic plates' don't actually move a whole lot in 3000 years, particularly relative to sea levels, and when they do move, they don't ALL move 'up' or 'down'.
But you admit they can? Fraud.
 
The worsening of tidal flooding in American coastal communities is largely a consequence of greenhouse gases from human activity, and the problem will grow far worse in coming decades, scientists reported Monday.

Those emissions, primarily from the burning of fossil fuels, are causing the ocean to rise at the fastest rate since at least the founding of ancient Rome, the scientists said. They added that in the absence of human emissions, the ocean surface would be rising less rapidly and might even be falling.

The increasingly routine tidal flooding is making life miserable in places like Miami Beach; Charleston, S.C.; and Norfolk, Va., even on sunny days.


Though these types of floods often produce only a foot or two of standing saltwater, they are straining life in many towns by killing lawns and trees, blocking neighborhood streets and clogging storm drains, polluting supplies of freshwater and sometimes stranding entire island communities for hours by overtopping the roads that tie them to the mainland.

Such events are just an early harbinger of the coming damage, the new research suggests.

“I think we need a new way to think about most coastal flooding,” said Benjamin H. Strauss, the primary author of one of two related studies released on Monday. “It’s not the tide. It’s not the wind. It’s us. That’s true for most of the coastal floods we now experience.”

In the second study, scientists reconstructed the level of the sea over time and confirmed that it is most likely rising faster than at any point in 28 centuries, with the rate of increase growing sharply over the past century — largely, they found, because of the warming that scientists have said is almost certainly caused by human emissions.

They also confirmed previous forecasts that if emissions were to continue at a high rate over the next few decades, the ocean could rise as much as three or four feet by 2100.

Experts say the situation would then grow far worse in the 22nd century and beyond, likely requiring the abandonment of many coastal cities.

The findings are yet another indication that the stable climate in which human civilization has flourished for thousands of years, with a largely predictable ocean permitting the growth of great coastal cities, is coming to an end.

“I think we can definitely be confident that sea-level rise is going to continue to accelerate if there’s further warming, which inevitably there will be,” said Stefan Rahmstorf, a professor of ocean physics at the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research, in Germany, and co-author of one of the papers, published online Monday by an American journal, Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

In a report issued to accompany that scientific paper, a climate research and communications organization in Princeton, N.J., Climate Central, used the new findings to calculate that roughly three-quarters of the tidal flood days now occurring in towns along the East Coast would not be happening in the absence of the rise in the sea level caused by human emissions.

The lead author of that report, Dr. Strauss, said the same was likely true on a global scale, in any coastal community that has had an increase of saltwater flooding in recent decades.

The rise in the sea level contributes only in a limited degree to the huge, disastrous storm surges accompanying hurricanes like Katrina and Sandy. Proportionally, it has a bigger effect on the nuisance floods that can accompany what are known as king tides.

The change in frequency of those tides is striking. For instance, in the decade from 1955 to 1964 at Annapolis, Md., an instrument called a tide gauge measured 32 days of flooding; in the decade from 2005 to 2014, that jumped to 394 days.

Flood days in Charleston jumped from 34 in the earlier decade to 219 in the more recent, and in Key West, Fla., the figure jumped from no flood days in the earlier decade to 32 in the more recent.

The new research was led by Robert E. Kopp, an earth scientist at Rutgers University who has won respect from his colleagues by bringing elaborate statistical techniques to bear on longstanding problems, like understanding the history of the global sea level.

Based on extensive geological evidence, scientists already knew that the sea level rose drastically at the end of the last ice age, by almost 400 feet, causing shorelines to retreat up to a hundred miles in places. They also knew that the sea level had basically stabilized, like the rest of the climate, over the past several thousand years, the period when human civilization arose.


But there were small variations of climate and sea level over that period, and the new paper is the most exhaustive attempt yet to clarify them.

The paper shows the ocean to be extremely sensitive to small fluctuations in the Earth’s temperature. The researchers found that when the average global temperature fell by a third of a degree Fahrenheit in the Middle Ages, for instance, the surface of the ocean dropped by about three inches in 400 years. When the climate warmed slightly, that trend reversed.

“Physics tells us that sea-level change and temperature change should go hand-in-hand,” Dr. Kopp said. “This new geological record confirms it.”

In the 19th century, as the Industrial Revolution took hold, the ocean began to rise briskly, climbing about eight inches since 1880. That sounds small, but it has caused extensive erosion worldwide, costing billions.

Due largely to human emissions, global temperatures have jumped about 1.8 degrees Fahrenheit since the 19th century. The sea is rising at what appears to be an accelerating pace, lately reaching a rate of about a foot per century.

One of the authors of the new paper, Dr. Rahmstorf, had previously published estimates suggesting the sea could rise as much as five or six feet by 2100. But with the improved calculations from the new paper, his latest upper estimate is three to four feet.

That means Dr. Rahmstorf’s forecast is now more consistent with calculations issued in 2013 by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, a United Nations body that periodically reviews and summarizes climate research. That body found that continued high emissions might produce a rise in the sea of 1.7 to 3.2 feet over the 21st century.

In an interview, Dr. Rahmstorf said the rise would eventually reach five feet and far more — the only question was how long it would take. Scientists say the recent climate agreement negotiated in Paris is not remotely ambitious enough to forestall a significant melting of Greenland and Antarctica, though if fully implemented, it may slow the pace somewhat.

“Ice simply melts faster when the temperatures get higher,” Dr. Rahmstorf said. “That’s just basic physics.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/23/science/sea-level-rise-global-warming-climate-change.html
Have one of these if you can find them where you live...and relax. Even if this bullshit was true there isn't a thing you can do about it.

 
You could start by actually reading a scientific paper. Google is a fantastic resource to find some, including the one referenced by the OP.

You could also recognize that 'tectonic plates' don't actually move a whole lot in 3000 years, particularly relative to sea levels, and when they do move, they don't ALL move 'up' or 'down'.

I suggest you do a little google research yourself on the rates of plate transfer, convergence and divergence, Mr. Pretends-to-know-it-all!
 
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