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Karoline Leavitt at her presser just said the 8 million USAID funding of Politico has been cancelled immediately.

The US has no business at all funding private news outlets. I cant believe this was happening at all.
 
Karoline Leavitt at her presser just said the 8 million USAID funding of Politico has been cancelled immediately.

The US has no business at all funding private news outlets. I cant believe this was happening at all.
To be clear, $44k in USAID funding to Politico. The biggest shares of the $8m came from HHS and DoI. The overwhelming majority of the awarded funds are essentially electronic subscriptions (eg, "Politico Pro"), over a period of several years. https://www.usaspending.gov/search/?hash=ce007c986b96d38c983ae10dc0614b6a

Translation: this is a ginormous nothing-burger. Other than the fact that government employees will just have to sit at their desks and read the free content like the rest of us schlubs.

Edit: funnily enough, the Executive Office of the President also has a number of subscription contract awards, in amounts substantially more than the USAID subscription..
 
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To be clear, $44k in USAID funding to Politico. The biggest shares of the $8m came from HHS and DoI. The overwhelming majority of the awarded funds are essentially electronic subscriptions (eg, "Politico Pro"), over a period of several years. https://www.usaspending.gov/search/?hash=ce007c986b96d38c983ae10dc0614b6a

Translation: this is a ginormous nothing-burger. Other than the fact that government employees will just have to sit at their desks and read the free content like the rest of us schlubs.
So a huge waste of money by HHS and Dol
 
So a huge waste of money by HHS and Dol
and others, though in fairness these are likely national licenses of nearly unlimited users. But yeah, i view politico as basically just sort of light entertainment fare that I'd never pay extra for.

It's certainly not as important as having a subscription to, say, Lexis or Westlaw.

I will acknowledge - it does raise an interesting question in my mind that had not really occurred to me before. just how important a customer is "the government" when it comes to news and trade publications, which are so ubiquitous that they most of their content can be accessed without charge by the general public?

(Edit: I gotta say, this sort of evokes a great old Xfiles episode in which Mulder makes a reference to the "Military-Industrial-Entertainment Complex")
 
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and others, though in fairness these are likely national licenses of nearly unlimited users. But yeah, i view politico as basically just sort of light entertainment fare that I'd never pay extra for.

It's certainly not as important as having a subscription to, say, Lexis or Westlaw.

I will acknowledge - it does raise an interesting question in my mind that had not really occurred to me before. just how important a customer is "the government" when it comes to news and trade publications, which are so ubiquitous that they most of their content can be accessed without charge by the general public?

(Edit: I gotta say, this sort of evokes a great old Xfiles episode in which Mulder makes a reference to the "Military-Industrial-Entertainment Complex")
I dont think the government should be subscribing, with taxpayer dollars, to any political publications. Especially one with such obvious titles such as this one. I also dont think government employees should accept them gratis either.

Pay for it or read the free version if you wish.

Lexis, Westlaw etc are non political. Not the same as you know.

How would Dems feel about the DoD paying for a Daily Wire subscription for all soldiers with taxpayer dollars?
 
I dont think the government should be subscribing, with taxpayer dollars, to any political publications. Especially one with such obvious titles such as this one. I also dont think government employees should accept them gratis either.

Pay for it or read the free version if you wish.

Lexis, Westlaw etc are non political. Not the same as you know.

How would Dems feel about the DoD paying for a Daily Wire subscription for all soldiers with taxpayer dollars?
While I'd probably quibble with the characterization as a political publication (actually a fair bit of good old fashioned reporting rather than just opinion pieces), I'm on the fence here. There may be very good reasons for govt officials and employees to access trade press like this.

But I have to say, i'm just a little dubious of the value proposition of the stuff behind the paywalls. It'd be fascinating to get a feel for what percentage of their non-government user-clickers are also behind-the-paywall subscribers.

My point is simply that these are (qualitatively) pretty ordinary expenses, and probably unlikely to be such as to support an inference of an unholy relationship for, say, placing stories here or in foreign editions.
 
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Karoline Leavitt at her presser just said the 8 million USAID funding of Politico has been cancelled immediately.

The US has no business at all funding private news outlets. I cant believe this was happening at all.
You total dumb shit.
 
While I'd probably quibble with the characterization as a political publication (actually a fair bit of good old fashioned reporting rather than just opinion pieces), I'm on the fence here. There may be very good reasons for govt officials and employees to access trade press like this.

But I have to say, i'm just a little dubious of the value proposition of the stuff behind the paywalls. It'd be fascinating to get a feel for what percentage of their non-government user-clickers are also behind-the-paywall subscribers.

My point is simply that these are (qualitatively) pretty ordinary expenses, and probably unlikely to be such as to support an inference of an unholy relationship for, say, placing stories here or in foreign editions.
Reporting on this says that each Politico Pro subscription cost American taxpayers 10,000 each.

NO WAY their reporting behind the paywall is worth that kind of money. At all. Sounds like a way to divert government dollars to support, via 'subscriptions', a private company that, at best, leans left.
 
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Reporting on this says that each Politico Pro subscription cost American taxpayers 10,000 each.

NO WAY their reporting behind the paywall is worth that kind of money. At all. Sounds like a way to divert government dollars to support, via 'subscriptions', a private company that, at best, leans left.
How many users per? Remember the agency has like 10000 employees worldwide. I don’t the subscription allows one person to access the content. (For comparison, I am one of a dozen licensed users on a niche subscription product at work that is very good, for which we pay about 2000).

I agree that there are very few info products worth the subscription, and none worth 10k
 
How many users per? Remember the agency has like 10000 employees worldwide. I don’t the subscription allows one person to access the content. (For comparison, I am one of a dozen licensed users on a niche subscription product at work that is very good, for which we pay about 2000).

I agree that there are very few info products worth the subscription, and none worth 10k
They have individual Pro plans and group Pro plans.

 
They have individual Pro plans and group Pro plans.

Honestly, setting aside the value prop, I’m still kinda underwhelmed at the idea that this is somehow sinister. (Which was the original implication). Wasteful maybe, but not sinister. And even then, usaid seems positively miserly relative to other usg entities.
 
Honestly, setting aside the value prop, I’m still kinda underwhelmed at the idea that this is somehow sinister. (Which was the original implication). Wasteful maybe, but not sinister. And even then, usaid seems positively miserly relative to other usg entities.
Oh I dont think it is sinister. I just think it is a massively irresponsible use of taxpayer dollars that most would not be supportive of if they knew.
 
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What if we just stopped giving aid of any kind for awhile?,.. USAID?,.. Just close the doors.
Aid can be used to the USAs advantage so I am fine with Aid to our allies or to push whatever our foreign policy agenda is within the frames of the constitution. I do believe that we do need to go through a lot of the inefficiencies of the government as a whole but the way Trump is doing it is completely the wrong way.
 
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Aid can be used to the USAs advantage so I am fine with Aid to our allies or to push whatever our foreign policy agenda is within the frames of the constitution. I do believe that we do need to go through a lot of the inefficiencies of the government as a whole but the way Trump is doing it is completely the wrong way.
Absolutely. it's soft power (let's be real about the 'humanitarian' nonsense), and always has been, and now's probably the last time to pull the plug given China's belt and road.
 
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Aid can be used to the USAs advantage so I am fine with Aid to our allies or to push whatever our foreign policy agenda is within the frames of the constitution. I do believe that we do need to go through a lot of the inefficiencies of the government as a whole but the way Trump is doing it is completely the wrong way.

No,.. We need to just shut it all off for a couple years, get our finances back in order, then we can revisit this international aid idea with a new and improved understanding of what's really important.
 
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Aid can be used to the USAs advantage so I am fine with Aid to our allies or to push whatever our foreign policy agenda is within the frames of the constitution. I do believe that we do need to go through a lot of the inefficiencies of the government as a whole but the way Trump is doing it is completely the wrong way.

Absolutely, these are things that could have been accomplished by Congress. Part of our checks and balances would still be intact. The optics of Elon and his little group of hackers vacuuming up our data, and doing whatever else to sensitive computer systems is terrifying. Then they follow it up with Tweets with little to no data making claims of weird spending. It's also not great optics that USAID was investigating Elon.
 
No,.. We need to just shut it all off for a couple years, get our finances back in order, then we can revisit this international aid idea with a new and improved understanding of what's really important.
A couple of years?!

I'm actually sorta-kinda ok with the idea that we're going through a zero-balance budget exercise where everything has to be justified, but as painful as those exercises can be, they're generally done on the fly and at the very least, you don't shut your business down for a couple of years.
 
It's also not great optics that USAID was investigating Elon.

They weren’t. The USAID IG was inspecting how USAID tracked the utilization of Starlink systems they bought and deployed in Ukraine.
You know, to make sure they weren’t just passing into the black market.
 
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A couple of years?!

I'm actually sorta-kinda ok with the idea that we're going through a zero-balance budget exercise where everything has to be justified, but as painful as those exercises can be, they're generally done on the fly and at the very least, you don't shut your business down for a couple of years.
The ‘business’ of borrowing money on the U.S. taxpayer’s back to ship overseas needs to be shut down.
It’d be one thing to debate the value of this stuff if we could afford it, but we can’t, so we borrow, creating perpetual debt and essentially making the true cost of these initiatives infinite.
It’s stupid.
 
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A couple of years?!

I'm actually sorta-kinda ok with the idea that we're going through a zero-balance budget exercise where everything has to be justified, but as painful as those exercises can be, they're generally done on the fly and at the very least, you don't shut your business down for a couple of years.

International aid should not be our primary "business",.. That's what I was suggesting be shut down for two years.
 
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No,.. We need to just shut it all off for a couple years, get our finances back in order, then we can revisit this international aid idea with a new and improved understanding of what's really important.
Nah, I don’t agree at all with this. There are way to go about things but usually starting with the most extreme way of going about it is not the best strategy imo. We will just have to agree to disagree on how to go about but we agree with the premise of the inefficiency and reigning in the spending.
 
And Mussolini got the trains to run on-time. Please reply on point, if you don't mind:

There are now reports that Marko Elez, a 25 year old engineer who works for Elon Musk, has administrative rights over a sizable chunk of Treasury Dept. software. Access to the root code. He has access to the entire system and can rewrite user permissions, delete or modify files, cut off money to specific agencies...or specific individuals. Musk's gremlins could purposefully or accidentally leave the entire system vulnerable to hackers from anywhere in the world. They are unvetted, unsupervised, and completely unaccountable.

So here's your question...at what point will you and your fellow apologists decide that being able to catch the train at the appointed time doesn't excuse the potentially irreparable damage this psychotic, narcissistic POTUS could do over the next four years? I'm truly curious what it will take for you and yours to say "Enough is enough".



 
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